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Old 06-10-2015, 10:38 PM   #16521
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Old 06-10-2015, 10:39 PM   #16522
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I picture ponytail Kane getting into a loud, heated debate about economics with goatee and APA tshirt Bradshaw, and it confounding all the other patrons at the bar.
Was kane doing that "lecture" in a basement? Nothing but old people and crying babies
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Old 06-10-2015, 11:22 PM   #16523
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"Dave Meltzer, Bryan Alvarez and others are suggesting that Vince McMahon broke them up on-screen to facilitate a real-breakup, with Vince feeling that someone like Rusev shouldn’t be able to get a girl like Lana."

lol What??
Vince Loves (Blocking the) Cock?

I don't know they just bought a house together. It's a minor tort to use business means to get a couple to break up. Wonder if Vince knows that?
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Old 06-10-2015, 11:42 PM   #16524
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Was kane doing that "lecture" in a basement? Nothing but old people and crying babies
It was done at a VFW lodge in Tennessee. VFW is a social group/club for veterans, so it really was nothing but old people and crying babies.
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Old 06-11-2015, 12:36 AM   #16525
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Old 06-11-2015, 01:12 AM   #16526
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Old 06-11-2015, 01:30 AM   #16527
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:02 AM   #16528
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:18 AM   #16529
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:40 AM   #16530
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Ugh. Seriously, Samoa Joe's music is whack as hell. The sinister intro gets you hype for the match, the the jobberiffic CAW tune after it makes you go "uh, nevermind". Might sound unimportant in the scheme of things, but it is a seriously lackluster part of the presentation. I mean, think about how unfitting it would be if Finn Balor's paint and smoke entrances started the same, but then instead of that guitar riff hitting, they played Erick Rowan's shitty singles run music box theme?

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This reminds me: Dalton Castle. Man, isn't he EXACTLY what Vinnie Mac was looking for in the 90's? The man is ALL the campy gay of Gorgeous George, Johnny B. Badd, and Goldust, with the wild-eyed psycho charisma of Brian Pillman and Jack Black all in a goddamn blender. Add in a song that sounds suspiciously* like Queen's "I Want It All" (which also fits the gimmick. In more than one way.) and this shit is a licence for ROH to not only print money, but introduce their own damn currency... which I would suspect would be similar to Canada's, but with a peacock instead of a loon.


*read as "is EXACTLY that song, but is basically a full distort guitar instrumental, making it just different enough to avoid litigation".
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Old 06-11-2015, 10:04 AM   #16531
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Pretty sure Joe will get new music after these tapings, funky midi dance music doesn't suit him
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Old 06-11-2015, 10:35 AM   #16532
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This reminds me: Dalton Castle. Man, isn't he EXACTLY what Vinnie Mac was looking for in the 90's? The man is ALL the campy gay of Gorgeous George, Johnny B. Badd, and Goldust, with the wild-eyed psycho charisma of Brian Pillman and Jack Black all in a goddamn blender. Add in a song that sounds suspiciously* like Queen's "I Want It All" (which also fits the gimmick. In more than one way.) and this shit is a licence for ROH to not only print money, but introduce their own damn currency... which I would suspect would be similar to Canada's, but with a peacock instead of a loon.


*read as "is EXACTLY that song, but is basically a full distort guitar instrumental, making it just different enough to avoid litigation".
First epsidoe of ROH I've watched in a while, and you know what stuck with me? This gimmick.

Not somebody almost murdering Maria. Not someone being driven through chairs. Not Mr. Clean's fat uncle sidewalk slamming the kid from Everybody Hates Chris through a table. Not Christopher Daniels and Kazarian. Hell of a gimmick. I'm fully expecting them to steal this and make Adam Rose into it within a month.
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Old 06-11-2015, 10:37 AM   #16533
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Old 06-11-2015, 01:12 PM   #16534
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Old 06-11-2015, 01:18 PM   #16535
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Pretty sure Joe will get new music after these tapings, funky midi dance music doesn't suit him
I certainly hope so. It's worse than Cena's production theme when he first started his "rapper" gimmick. And that's a low bar.

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Old 06-11-2015, 01:37 PM   #16536
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Old 06-11-2015, 02:05 PM   #16537
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First epsidoe of ROH I've watched in a while, and you know what stuck with me? This gimmick.

Not somebody almost murdering Maria. Not someone being driven through chairs. Not Mr. Clean's fat uncle sidewalk slamming the kid from Everybody Hates Chris through a table. Not Christopher Daniels and Kazarian. Hell of a gimmick. I'm fully expecting them to steal this and make Adam Rose into it within a month.
Would not surpise me one bit, as NXT has that one tag team that looks suspiciously like they're supposed to be a cleaned up, PG version of The Briscoses.

I actually came across a match of him in TNA, but "his boys" were replaced with girls. Seems like a step WWE would take, which kills the presentation. While more "acceptable", the problems were a) they went from being part of the hedonistic gimmick to simply arm charm props, as he obviously couldn't use them for furniture (like steps for him to get the ring, or to sit on like when he cut his promo on Jay Lethal) and b) why this change was neccessary, but Orlando Jordan could... do the weird shit he was doing for his entrance, such as the caution tape and lotion slathering for no reason.

Dalton reminds me of the one villan from the one story in Heavy Metal. If you've ever seen the movie, you know the guy. Just as cartoony, but in a fun way.
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Old 06-11-2015, 03:57 PM   #16538
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Been watching the attitude era RAWs and PPVs, and watching the episode where Motley Crüe performs on RAW. I do not remember this at all. Would this have been a huge fucking deal in 98? Also the only time I remember a mini-concert not getting booed and/or ruining the momentum of a show.
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Old 06-11-2015, 05:02 PM   #16539
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How was Ken Shamrock not WWF Champion? He was over as fuck, had great matches, and was feuding with main eventers early and often.
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Old 06-11-2015, 05:16 PM   #16540
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Been watching the attitude era RAWs and PPVs, and watching the episode where Motley Crüe performs on RAW. I do not remember this at all. Would this have been a huge fucking deal in 98? Also the only time I remember a mini-concert not getting booed and/or ruining the momentum of a show.
Not really. I mean, they were known, but at that point I think they were more famous for Tommy Lee's sex tape than they were for being Motley Crüe. I think that whole segment was just an excuse to introduce Test, right?
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Old 06-11-2015, 05:24 PM   #16541
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Test wasn't shown/mentioned. NAO & X-Pac were on stage with them. Seemed like they were just plugging their best of album that was coming out. DX had made some jokes about the sex tape in a promo a week or two before.
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Old 06-11-2015, 05:27 PM   #16542
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Hm. Must have been thinking of something else. Some band was performing and a fan tried to rush them or something and their giant bodyguard took the "fan" down and the announcers got all excited about the giant blond dude.
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It was Motley Crüe, but it apparently happened on Heat, not Raw according to Wikipedia.
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"Martin debuted in the World Wrestling Federation on the October 25, 1998, episode of Sunday Night Heat as an unnamed bodyguard for the band Mötley Crüe, who were performing on the show. In a scripted event, Martin threw an overzealous fan off the stage during the band's rehearsal."
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How was Ken Shamrock not WWF Champion? He was over as fuck, had great matches, and was feuding with main eventers early and often.
Kurt Angle. They found a better superstar for the real athlete motif. Shamrock took 20 minutes to catch on that Triple H wanted to fight in a Triple Threat match with him and Owen Hart also. Wasn't a good promo.
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Old 06-11-2015, 05:36 PM   #16546
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"Martin debuted in the World Wrestling Federation on the October 25, 1998, episode of Sunday Night Heat as an unnamed bodyguard for the band Mötley Crüe, who were performing on the show. In a scripted event, Martin threw an overzealous fan off the stage during the band's rehearsal."
I guess they did a second set when they taped heat. They still tried to make HeAT a legit show then.
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Old 06-11-2015, 05:37 PM   #16547
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In terms of being over the person most deserving of a World Title who didn't get one in the Attitude Era is Crash Holy.
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I wish they had Sunday Night HeAT on the WWE Network.
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Old 06-11-2015, 05:38 PM   #16549
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I'd like to watch a few of those early ones with Shane o Mac as the announcer.
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Old 06-11-2015, 05:40 PM   #16550
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Been watching the attitude era RAWs and PPVs, and watching the episode where Motley Crüe performs on RAW. I do not remember this at all. Would this have been a huge fucking deal in 98? Also the only time I remember a mini-concert not getting booed and/or ruining the momentum of a show.
What about Kid Rock's that seemed to get over with the crowd. Plus Joe C helped Too Cool become tag team champions
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I certainly hope so. It's worse than Cena's production theme when he first started his "rapper" gimmick. And that's a low bar.

https://youtu.be/XoJH2gNOURk
Is it worse than the theme they gave Jesse after he was repackaged as "Slam Master 'J'", Cryme Tyme's "white friend"?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9NQCoISQItE

That's an even lower bar.
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I wish they had Sunday Night HeAT on the WWE Network.
I wish they would put thunder and tbs Saturday night on the network, wcw did more then 2 years of nitro
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The Wrestling Observer has an update on the injured WWE Superstar and former tag team champion Tyson Kidd. Kidd sustained a spinal cord injury in his dark match with Samoa Joe before Raw last week. Kidd will likely need to undergo surgery to treat the injury, which could put him out of action for a year or possibly longer.

Tyson Kidd has reportedly received calls from WWE Hall of Famers Steve Austin and Edge, who gave him some moral support and advice. The report mentions that it is a possibility he might have to undergo a fusion surgery similar to what Austin and Edge had for their necks.

Per the report, Kidd’s injury was apparently a fluke and not a result of how Samoa Joe executed the muscle buster.
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Viewership for this week's ROH and TNA shows. Both were slightly up compared to last week but still favors ROH more than TNA at the moment.

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A source noted to PWInsider that a potential deal between WWE and WWN, the parent company of EVOLVE and FIP, would see WWN continue to sign top indie talents to deals that now would include licensing and merchandising, so if and when WWE wants to bring that talent to NXT, they won't have the hassle of having to secure the different rights from other third parties. There's talk that if an indie talent has signed a third party merchandising deal with any kind of exclusivity, then WWE wouldn't be interested in signing them. As we noted yesterday, there will always be exceptions to the rule as there are with any rules.

Another big part of the story is Florida-based SHINE Wrestling, WWN's women's wrestling group. With WWE pushing the NXT Divas division, they are interested in having a group of women they can have "official access" to for potential use in NXT.

The basic idea is that WWE, under an official relationship with WWN, would be able to pick up and sign any WWN talents without outside hassles. The deal is nowhere close to being done and there's no guarantee that it will be completed but the talks are ongoing.
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It was originally reported that Brock Lesnar wouldn’t be returning to WWE television until June 22, but it appears that WWE has changed their minds, as Wrestling News is reporting that both Heyman and Lesnar will appear on next week’s RAW show in Cleveland.
Likely due to recent rumors regarding what is happening at MitB this Sunday.

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Also, if Lesnar doesn’t end up facing Steve Austin at WrestleMania, there has been some talk of doing a Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns rematch, where Reigns will finally get the win over Lesnar. The belief in WWE is that the fans turned on Reigns last year because it was a year too soon for him to be in the main-event, but they’re confident that if he’s back in the ring with Lesnar next year, he’ll have put enough time in, and the fans will be more accepting of him being the on to finally defeat “The Beast.”
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Hulk Hogan is also among the group for those final 11 Network podcasts.


Some other sheet news includes:
  • Recent article from Grantland focused on Kevin Owens and his rise to stardom since his WWE debut. http://grantland.com/the-triangle/ww...vince-mcmahon/
  • For those in the UK and were interested in the RevPro show, Ricochet got pulled out of this Sunday's show due to passport issues. Also has Vias issues with Japan so won't be returning to NJPW either until that gets settled.
  • Big O was among the first to get eliminated from the Top 40 finalists for the upcoming Tough Enough season. https://twitter.com/WWEToughEnough/s...72225584877568
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Damn.... terrible news for Tyson Kidd.... Was just really getting some steam...
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Old 06-11-2015, 10:25 PM   #16557
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Yea sucks for Cesaro as well.
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Old 06-11-2015, 10:36 PM   #16558
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I think putting Lana and Cesaro together is a good idea.
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Old 06-11-2015, 10:57 PM   #16559
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Cesaro/Ryback IC title.
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Old 06-11-2015, 11:04 PM   #16560
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Cesaro/Ryback would be a good feud. Lana and Cesaro doesn't seem like a bad idea either, Rusev vs Cesaro would be better than him and Ziggler in my opinion.
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