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Old 09-19-2021, 12:26 PM   #801
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I think after this epsiode a lot of "the boys" will be shitting bricks if their past shenanigans get brought up in one of these episodes.
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Old 09-19-2021, 12:46 PM   #802
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Tony Khan is, with the 2 conditions that his talent can mention "Dark Side" on his tv show in angles, and that the show just BURIES WWE at every chance.
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Old 09-19-2021, 01:24 PM   #803
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Old 09-19-2021, 03:15 PM   #804
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Brutus Beefcake made a statement in a shoot interview that Shawn and Marty "h=bombed" then raped women in hotels.
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Lol oh God, the only Timeline I couldn't finish. Beefcake told so many yarns, but I can definitely believe that one
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Imagine surprised to learn Ric Flair is a possible sexual predator.
I don’t think people are surprised about learning that.
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Shawn Michaels has to be shitting himself.

Sid will be shitting himself for season 4.
That stabbing is an all-time incident.
People will talk...
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Old 09-19-2021, 10:35 PM   #808
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I love that people blame Sid because Arn is a better in ring worker
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All this stuff is just zapping my enthusiasm for wrestling. Not so much as what they did. More that this is going to be a gigantic topic that's not going away which will and already is turning into a witch hunt
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Old 09-19-2021, 11:28 PM   #810
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The stuff about Ric Flair's infamous antics during the flight isn't that surprising since even both WWE and ESPN mentioned that being a habit of his before in recent shows they've produced but what made Dark Side's episode way more damaging was them managing to actually get the flight attendant who was harassed by him for their show. That turned his antics from being something of an immature gag and chuckle to something way more serious in tone.

Only reason the current heat on Flair isn't even bigger is due to Dreamer taking some of the spotlight away because of his moronic takes over the incident.
You watch that cartoon and its somewhere between a consensual laugh that the flight attendant initiated or at least consented to or an in character boast by Flair. Having not seen the DOSTR episode yet I'm assuming its a shit load darker than that.
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Old 09-19-2021, 11:36 PM   #811
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If this show brings an end to the business because enough people are just disgusted with the stuff like this episode covered, I'm all for it.
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Old 09-20-2021, 12:30 AM   #812
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You can’t blame the audience for off-screen incidents.
I love wrestling but I’m not putting old men on a pedestal when it comes down to this sort of thing.
I fully expect Shawn Michaels to get what’s coming to him soon enough. I mean you can only shave so many heads after date rape before somebody speaks up in front of a camera that films HD.

They’ll find a victim eventually.
Hell, unlike Nerfect here, I'm not putting a young person on a pedestal or giving them an excuse, when it comes to sexual assault, violence, or harassment, no matter when or how long ago it was.

You know... because somehow Lesnar's behavior might somehow have "an explanation for why", even if it's "not an excuse", because he was "he was basically an impressionable kid in a ridiculous culture".

Damn. If only Lesnar had been gifted with both the necessary character AND the ability to actually physically stop the bullshit he was witnessing. Too bad as an actual adult in a difficult situation he only had the physical skills and not the character and balls to do the right thing, never mind not actually allegedly participating in it.

Fuck off with that bullshit, Nerfect, you pathetic, moron, POS, hypocrite.
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Old 09-20-2021, 02:28 AM   #813
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Just watched... Man... What a watch.

The airhostess was so genuine in her approach, struck me during her Hall section she said she was afraid then backtracked for fear it was too strong of a word. Im 6 Foot tall, 115 KG and if a guy the size of Hall grabbed me on a flight full of his mates and threatened me mid Atlantic I would be shitting myself!

As well as the obvious things said about people RVD saying he saw Flair accosting (for lack of a stronger term?) the Airhostess and doing nothing is extremely disappointing to say the least.

The Airhostesses being present while Flairs carrying on his "act" mid aisle is bad but I can see how you might in that toxic culture let it go but watching him corner her and proposition her naked is well and truly across the line.

Jim Ross seems genuinely upset and remorseful that he was in charge of that culture while also sounding somewhat powerless to fix it. How do you fix a culture like that when the "made guys" get a pass...
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Old 09-20-2021, 08:26 AM   #814
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Dreamer's apology comes off like that of a corporate entity.
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Old 09-20-2021, 09:18 AM   #815
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All this stuff is just zapping my enthusiasm for wrestling. Not so much as what they did. More that this is going to be a gigantic topic that's not going away which will and already is turning into a witch hunt



This is why the show will be dropped / canceled. They will start to run with stories that "get too close" and "fuck you" money will win.
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Old 09-20-2021, 09:20 AM   #816
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Like digging an old clip from a Brutus Beefcake interview lol. Brutus also said in that interview that he was white hot as a heel before the barber gimmick and the barber gimmick ruined him.
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Old 09-20-2021, 10:18 AM   #817
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It's okay Jericho has FORGIVEN Tommy Dreamer on Instagram!
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It's okay Jericho has FORGIVEN Tommy Dreamer on Instagram!
Is that like the equivilant of saying "nigger" and going to the lord of black people Al Sharpton and asking for forgiveness?
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I love that people blame Sid because Arn is a better in ring worker
This is one of the weirdest things about wrestling fandom. If you’re good in the ring and people like your on-air content, people will make all sorts of weird assumptions about your personality. It happens all the time, and it happens with entire promotions too.

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If this show brings an end to the business because enough people are just disgusted with the stuff like this episode covered, I'm all for it.
Agreed. Like the circus, an industry just being too carny to survive is not impossible.

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Hell, unlike Nerfect here, I'm not putting a young person on a pedestal or giving them an excuse, when it comes to sexual assault, violence, or harassment, no matter when or how long ago it was.

You know... because somehow Lesnar's behavior might somehow have "an explanation for why", even if it's "not an excuse", because he was "he was basically an impressionable kid in a ridiculous culture".

Damn. If only Lesnar had been gifted with both the necessary character AND the ability to actually physically stop the bullshit he was witnessing. Too bad as an actual adult in a difficult situation he only had the physical skills and not the character and balls to do the right thing, never mind not actually allegedly participating in it.

Fuck off with that bullshit, Nerfect, you pathetic, moron, POS, hypocrite.
Hahaha, there’s no way you’re an actual lawyer.

* You’ve never displayed any actual knowledge that isn’t general knowledge or easily accessible over Google.

* You’re incapable of making a reasonable argument and let your immature and insecure bias overtake every point you ever make.

* You can barely even read or interpret what people have said and why.

I wasn’t defending Brock, you muppet. I was answering #fan’s actual question and explaining why people are more mad at a 50-whatever man talking shit in 2021 than a 24 year old kid in his first month or so in a new job then.

You are a perfect example of what Gertner was talking about re: Arn/Sid. If it were an AEW wrestler who did any of those things, you actually wouldn’t condemn it at all. You hate Vince/WWE so much, because you’re still a mark who falls for the babyface/heel paradigm, you actually latch onto gross shit like this to defend your insecure fandom and target people you want to see fail. Don’t you ever call ANYONE else a hypocrite.

You’re a fake lawyer, a fake person, a bad take and riddled with bad taste. Every time to try and mouth off to me, I absolutely destroy you. Even people in the AEW thread admit you’re an embarrassment to the fandom. Stop trying to hang with the big boys. You are just not fucking smart enough.

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This is why the show will be dropped / canceled. They will start to run with stories that "get too close" and "fuck you" money will win.
Nah. They covered Vince McMahon covering up a murder. People seem to be rabid and ready for this sort of thing.

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It's okay Jericho has FORGIVEN Tommy Dreamer on Instagram!
Jericho himself is going to end up canceled one day, so he better just keep watching his own shadow, to be honest.
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I love that people blame Sid because Arn is a better in ring worker

I think people just preferred Arn as a person too.
The version I’ve heard the most is Sid turns up at Arn’s door with a chair arm or leg and when he gets there he throws it away but Arn comes out and stabs him with some scissors.
Sid gets hold of the scissors and just pokes Arn full of holes until he nearly kills him.
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Old 09-20-2021, 06:18 PM   #823
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Interesting that they mentioned that Vince and Linda were on board the plane. Multiple people referenced them being there in the episode if I'm not mistaken. But the reality was they weren't even on that flight. Makes me wonder what else was embellished for the sake of the show tbh.
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Old 09-20-2021, 06:21 PM   #824
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I imagine they were probably merging multiple plane ride stories all into the plane ride from hell. Seems like they are getting things mixed up with the flight that Vince and Kurt Angle were fighting on and when Michael Hayes was so shit faced he tried to pee on Linda or whatever.
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Hmm. A famous rich, white dude gets accused of sexual harassment. I wonder if his fans will try to discredit the victim
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Old 09-20-2021, 06:48 PM   #826
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She might’ve done some bad things, therefore Flair waving his dick at her and possibly forcing to touch it while cornering her is ok
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Like it or not, but that itself will be enough for some people to assume it was nothing but a cash grab. Its unfortunate but discrediting the accuser is commonplace.
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Dreamer was right!

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I bet robbing antique shops consistently leads to irreplaceable damages.

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Gotta discredit those victims.
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Based on this new evidence, Tommy Dreamer’s TPWW Thursday Night Watch-along suspension has been lifted.
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Tommy Dreamer was an innocent victim of cancel culture and his glory will be restored on TPWW THURSDAY NIGHT MULKEYMANIA!
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Can we just cancel Tommy Dreamer anyway?
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Old 09-21-2021, 08:49 AM   #835
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So it is true that Ric didn't make her touch his penis and that Scott Hall didn't lick her or grab for her boobs. And it is true that Tommy Dreamer fights for the rights of everyman. This woman is a NEWS REPORTED BURGLAR, she DOES NOT TELL THE TRUTH.
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Wait guys this proves that Ric did it

https://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugsho...ts/ric-flair-0
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Goddamn now I am torn, did Flair do it because he was accused of assault and damage to a car? Or did the flight attendant LIE because she was accused of BUGLARY, a heinous crime worse than some assaults?

And how does Tommy Dreamer begin to build a life in a post canceled society if indeed Ric Flair did not do it because the flight attendant has a serious criminal history?

Will Dreamer be able to return to his employers or with the IMPACT of his words have left a bruise too deep?

Will Shawn Michaels be remembered as the HEART BREAK RAPIST? Or will the stories amount to nothing because he is a "made man"?
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TUNE IN NEXT WEEK TO FIND OUT THE ANSWERS TO THESE BURNING QUESTIONS AND MORE!!!1!!one!
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