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Old 10-16-2020, 08:41 PM   #57841
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That's a shame. If it wasn't plagued by the same shit camerawork that infests the main product, it would have been interesting and a fun way to get some ass kickers over.
I can't even watch current WWE because of those fucking camera cuts
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Old 10-17-2020, 02:18 AM   #57842
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I haven't seen a full episode of WWE since mania. Just so y'all know where I'm at. Still watching AEW but some of it sucks. I think I'd rather watch 2004 era WWE women than the AEW women, minus Britt Baker who is a gold star. I call for Kenny to get demoted to WRESTLER.
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Old 10-17-2020, 10:13 AM   #57843
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The 3 best women's matches in AEW history featured a woman who wasn't in AEW. And one of them was with someone who thought more of herself than necessary.

Side note: can you picture Harley Race not selling for Ric Flair because "He's the Vet?"

Another side note: In a professionally run promotion, Ivellise would have been removed from television. In AEW, she got a contract.
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Old 10-17-2020, 02:28 PM   #57844
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I try not to picture Harley Race.
Ever.
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Old 10-17-2020, 06:03 PM   #57845
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The 3 best women's matches in AEW history featured a woman who wasn't in AEW. And one of them was with someone who thought more of herself than necessary.

Side note: can you picture Harley Race not selling for Ric Flair because "He's the Vet?"

Another side note: In a professionally run promotion, Ivellise would have been removed from television. In AEW, she got a contract.
Ivellise is pretty much a lesser version of Tessa Blanchad in regards to how quickly she gets hated backstage although her signing a deal with AEW still hasn't been confirmed yet.

They would have released a "Ivellise is All Elite" message by now like they've done with everyone else.
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Old 10-17-2020, 06:31 PM   #57846
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Watched a couple indie shows lately because we get all the ppvs for free. I noticed something really annoying

What does every match have a shot for shot spot where two guys just stand in front of each other and throw punches. It's so dumb.
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Old 10-17-2020, 06:41 PM   #57847
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Probably something influenced from Japan considering NJPW and other Japanese promotions do the back-and-forth chop and elbow strike spots regularly during matches as a rest break style spot.
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It's just so silly. Why would you just stand there and let your opponent knock the shit out of you. And EVERYBODY does it.
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Old 10-17-2020, 07:52 PM   #57849
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If I had to guess, just a modern version of the classic tough man or test of strength spot to show the crowd how tough both guys are.

Like back in the day when you'd have two muscular guys grapple and each would try to push the other guy back or make their opponent drop to his knee as a show of strength.
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Over the past few months, I’ve been noticing that certain professional wrestlers are spewing misinformation about COVID-19 and related political theories. Which one stands out to you?
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Easily Flip Gordon.

The guy might legit be the dumbest wrestler in today's wrestling scene. Even others who work with him have recently called him out for being the dumbest person they know when it comes to his views on the coronavirus and other conspiracy related stuff.
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Dumber than TJ Perkins?
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Old 10-17-2020, 08:38 PM   #57853
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It’s very much tied to the culture in Japan. Specifically the whole fighting spirit thing.

The problem is that culture doesn’t exist here. Or rather, it’s just represented in a different way here. So when two Indy guys do it here, they just look kinda stupid, like Gertner said.
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Dumber than TJ Perkins?
By a long shot. TJP's dumbness mostly revolves around his views towards women.

Even AJ Styles dumbess when it comes to being a flat earth supporter doesn't hold a candle to Flip's general dumbness.

Chris Jericho might be close although a lot of his dumbness revolves around how he runs his podcast series and him being very open to inviting conspiracy theorists as guests for podcast clicks and views.

If you count being an active participant and not just someone who sprouts dumb stuff, then Drake Wuertz is ahead of Flip Gordon by a mile based on some of the serious stuff that's come out against him in recent months. Supposedly he's been a main spreader of conspiracy related stuff that's been going on recently within WWE. Managed to get others to join in either via donating to bogus charity groups or repeating conspiracy style messaging online.
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I don’t have a problem with the late match strike exchange where both guys are exhausted and are just trading slow haymakers because they’ve already hit each other with everything else.

That at least makes sense.
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Old 10-17-2020, 08:44 PM   #57856
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Lo-Ki could give Flip a run for his money I bet.
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Ibushi definitely thought he was just posing with some fans there.
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For those that enjoy watching and/or reading up on old wrestling, Voices of Wrestling recently had an article on the early days of US wrestling going as far back as the 1890s and one of its first mega stars.

Back in the day when wrestling was mostly seen as a real sport although still had its fair share of sports media saying wrestling was fake.

https://www.voicesofwrestling.com/20...-in-the-1890s/
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By a long shot. TJP's dumbness mostly revolves around his views towards women.

Even AJ Styles dumbess when it comes to being a flat earth supporter doesn't hold a candle to Flip's general dumbness.

Chris Jericho might be close although a lot of his dumbness revolves around how he runs his podcast series and him being very open to inviting conspiracy theorists as guests for podcast clicks and views.

If you count being an active participant and not just someone who sprouts dumb stuff, then Drake Wuertz is ahead of Flip Gordon by a mile based on some of the serious stuff that's come out against him in recent months. Supposedly he's been a main spreader of conspiracy related stuff that's been going on recently within WWE. Managed to get others to join in either via donating to bogus charity groups or repeating conspiracy style messaging online.

Austin Aries has to rank up there.
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Easily Flip Gordon.

The guy might legit be the dumbest wrestler in today's wrestling scene. Even others who work with him have recently called him out for being the dumbest person they know when it comes to his views on the coronavirus and other conspiracy related stuff.
Yeah, Flip is the obvious one. I've also noticed some troubling posts made by NXT performers such as Raquel Gonzalez. I wonder if it had any bearing on the recent outbreaks at the performance center.
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Austin Aries has to rank up there.
Agreed. IIRC he randomly talked about fluoride making kids autistic during a podcast. Also, Bo Dallas is a conspiracy nut. Unsure about his stance on the pandemic.
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Bo is a conspiracy wacko?

Was this recent since I don't remember any dirt against him said around the net.
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This was back in 2017 on an episode of Talk Is Jericho.

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Yeah, Flip is the obvious one. I've also noticed some troubling posts made by NXT performers such as Raquel Gonzalez. I wonder if it had any bearing on the recent outbreaks at the performance center.
Coming from the military like Flip was (he was Army Guard, I was active Air Force) I don't blame him for believing in a lot of stuff....when you work for the Govt. there are things you are led to believe that in the end were B.S. from the start.

I guess it's all on how far down the rabbit hole you fall.
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Who's that guy on the Forgotten Sons that's some weirdo
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According to PWI, a very sad incident happened in Mexico last night.

A young wrestler suffered a fatal heart attack during the middle of a match.

Unlike what happened with Silver King's passing in the United Kingdom, match was quickly stopped and medical officials rushed in immediately to try to save him.

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PWInsider.com is sad to report the passing of Lucha star Principe Aereo (real name Luis ┴ngel Salazar) at the age of 26 years old after he suffered an apparent heart attack in the ring while performing for Mexa Wrestling tonight at Arena San Juan Pantitlan in Mexico City.

Aereo collapsed after taking two chops to the chest and waiting for his opponent to rebound off the ropes for their next spot, falling to the mat. Within a minute of him collapsing, he was being strapped to a back board by EMTs and rushed to the back for medical attention. MasLucha.com reported that he was treated by the Athletic Commission Doctor and rushed to the local hospital, but sadly passed away.

Aereo had been wrestling since 2010, working in Mexico for smaller promotions including IWRG and Mexa, but did work for AAA in 2019 as well as earlier this year.
Edit: PWInsider was a bit off on his age since Lucha Blog reported that he was actually 23 years old.

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Seems WWE recently ran into some legal issues regarding several trademarks for talent names they've been filing in batches these past few months.

At least 3 wrestlers haven't given their written consent needed for WWE to own their names while in the company due to their ring names being their real names.

Interesting, another denied trademark was for "Justus" which isn't the current name of anyone in WWE and has been rumored for a while to be related to Retribution. That was originally rumored to be the name of the group before they were officially revealed as Retribution.

Also WWE has been having trouble trademarking Mia Yim's name not because its her real name but due to her having past usage of the name in the indies meaning WWE needs her consent to own it while she works for them. Seeing as she's one of the people who is affected the most by WWE's recent third party services ban, makes sense why she isn't too happy to give them permission for ownership of her name.

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Multiple WWE trademark filings have been denied by the United Stated Patent and Trademark Office.

The trademarks, which were all submitted on 7/30 have yet to be accepted by the USPTO due to lack of written consent from talent who perform under the filed names.

HeelByNature.com has obtained documentation revealing the following trademarks will be abandoned in six months, unless WWE provides a signed document from talent, consenting the company can use the name.

Drew Gulak
Pete Dunne
Tony Nese
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Throughout the pandemic/lockdown, my girlfriend and I have dug out all our old DVD's and been watching through them all. This includes all my wrestling ones which she loves watching and is a huge fan!

Currently just watched The Great American Bash 2004 and Hard Knocks: The Chris Benoit Story, and two random notes/observations:

Damn, Chris Benoit was so fucking good. If you can try to appreciate his work as a wrestler prior to how his life ended, he really was one of the absolute best. From his solo DVD and all the ones we watched prior, the guy was so crisp in the ring. He had an absolute intensity and believeability that nobody really has anymore. Makes me appreciate that era of technical wrestling around the turn of the century before all the flippy and comedy stuff got too out-of-hand. Nowadays it's all so choreographed and gymnastics that it takes a lot of the realism out of the competition.

Also, I always kinda wished WWE would release a DVD or something on the Network or whatever, focusing on all the guys/matches that don't warrent DVD's of their own. So many mid-card matches and stand-out performers that should be highlighted. Guys like Christian, Booker T, Jamie Knoble, Tyson Kidd, Dolph Ziggler, Carlito, Shelton Benjamin, Dean Malenko etc. Perhaps matches from Raw, Smackdown, WWECW, NXT, Main Event etc that weren't necessarily main event matches or significant in any way, other than being great matches that seemed to have been kinda forgotten about.


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Dark Side of the Ring renewed for a 14 episode third season


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Oh wow, I thought Roberts,Houston, Robin and Smith were all one episode. Some really disturbing shit is gonna come out of this and I feel Roberts may be seen in a more empathetic way
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Throughout the pandemic/lockdown, my girlfriend and I have dug out all our old DVD's and been watching through them all. This includes all my wrestling ones which she loves watching and is a huge fan!

Currently just watched The Great American Bash 2004 and Hard Knocks: The Chris Benoit Story, and two random notes/observations:

Damn, Chris Benoit was so fucking good. If you can try to appreciate his work as a wrestler prior to how his life ended, he really was one of the absolute best. From his solo DVD and all the ones we watched prior, the guy was so crisp in the ring. He had an absolute intensity and believeability that nobody really has anymore. Makes me appreciate that era of technical wrestling around the turn of the century before all the flippy and comedy stuff got too out-of-hand. Nowadays it's all so choreographed and gymnastics that it takes a lot of the realism out of the competition.

Also, I always kinda wished WWE would release a DVD or something on the Network or whatever, focusing on all the guys/matches that don't warrent DVD's of their own. So many mid-card matches and stand-out performers that should be highlighted. Guys like Christian, Booker T, Jamie Knoble, Tyson Kidd, Dolph Ziggler, Carlito, Shelton Benjamin, Dean Malenko etc. Perhaps matches from Raw, Smackdown, WWECW, NXT, Main Event etc that weren't necessarily main event matches or significant in any way, other than being great matches that seemed to have been kinda forgotten about.

The fact that some people thought Benoit was boring or "vanilla" is a testament to how many great personalities were in WWE at the time.

Benoit would be the equivalent of Steve fucking Austin in today's enviornment.
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Old 10-19-2020, 04:41 PM   #57880
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Oh wow, I thought Roberts,Houston, Robin and Smith were all one episode. Some really disturbing shit is gonna come out of this and I feel Roberts may be seen in a more empathetic way
Yeah, I remember from the WWE Jake DVD that his early life was really fucked up, but they only glossed over it.
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