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Old 04-08-2019, 11:01 PM   #481
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I fucking love Cesaro, but why would Vince think it’s a good idea to send out Cesaro & SHEAMUS to interrupt a main event people actually wanted to see. That’s so weird to me.
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Some weak ass shit right there.
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Lol if WWE actually goes off the air with their most passionate fans calling for them to be erased.
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WWE basically throwing in the towel on the post-Mania Raw and SmackDown since they're not gonna even try to set any new shit in motion until the Shake Up.
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Like, that’s got to be a new low for the company, right?
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I wish i hadnt watched now. That was fucking terrible. Only good thing was Lacey Evans and i'm gonna jack off to her tonight. Good night.
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“You know what will get people hooked? Cesaro & Sheamus pissing on the fans to end the show.” Like, this was something Vince McMahon wanted to do for some reason. This baffles me.
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Old 04-08-2019, 11:05 PM   #488
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Main roster booking won't ever make sense until Vince McMahon is dead.
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Old 04-08-2019, 11:06 PM   #489
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Who is sitting at home right now thinking “Man, WWE is so cool! I can’t wait to see what happens next!” Like, what emotion do they think their live crowd is going to leave with after a long-ass day.
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Old 04-08-2019, 11:07 PM   #490
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They invited AEW chants into the main event of what is normally one of their highest rated Raws (isn’t it?). I am absolutely flabbergasted. Not shocked. Just...wow. Do they want to sour their dwindling audience forever and promote a hot new product?
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Old 04-08-2019, 11:07 PM   #491
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Tag match was good but ruined because of WWE's stupidity with pulling a bait-and-switch earlier.

Show itself was good but didn't really feel like a RAW After Mania. Part of it was due to the lack of real surprises and big moments. Taker's appearance and Sami's "pipe bomb" promo were the only really big notable stuff.
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I mean there isn't even a storyline reason for that. Neither of them are competing for those titles. So confused
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Old 04-08-2019, 11:10 PM   #494
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This would be like if WCW promised a Sting/Goldberg main event after Starrcade and then they ended up switching it to Sting & Goldberg vs. American Males, and Buff Bagwell was a four-time World Champion.
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The fact that Mania was generally well-received probably leaves WWE thinking that they pretty much only need to tap into the crowds during the first quarter of the year and react accordingly. Then after Mania they can go back to phoning it in and doing whatever the fuck they want.
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Old 04-08-2019, 11:11 PM   #497
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Like, how does anyone expect this promotion to remain competitive with loyal fans? They are a dinosaur.
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Old 04-08-2019, 11:12 PM   #498
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Fuck this crowd. I’d be chanting “please all quit.”
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Honestly, that was so illogical my brain couldn't process that it was The Bar. For about 5 seconds I seriously thought it was another fan hitting the ring like at HOF.

Random fan attacking was a more likely situation in my mind than The Bar smh.
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I sound really passionate about this. I’m not, I’m just literally confused as to what the fuck they think they are achieving. They’ve gone past WCW levels bad and are now TNA levels baffling, with Eric Young and Chris Sabin crashing main events.
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WWE basically throwing in the towel on the post-Mania Raw and SmackDown since they're not gonna even try to set any new shit in motion until the Shake Up.
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A lot of stuff happened on Raw and it was really good imo other than the incredibly dumb shit in the main event
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If AEW manages to focus on a succinct product with logical storytelling and acts its fan base wants to see, and they get a good TV deal and people rather watch that than five hours of this. If the Saudi seal blows up in WWE’s face and investors pull support and WWE ends up flames in the media. If TV networks pull their financial backing because WWE isn’t viable. If all these invited things go wrong — the negative shitshow they are courting by being so out of touch in an industry that can move VERY quick — this could make a chapter on “The Death of WWE.” Like, do people appreciate just how much of a piss this company just took on them? This deserves mockery.
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The only part of the show that actually interested me in the slightest was Sami's promo, which was fantastic.
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I hope Dean does leave. I'd be interested in seeing a motivated Jon Moxley on the indies.

That said it's no lock he goes to the indies or AEW anytime soon. I believe he's similar to Punk in that he's been very careful with his money over the years. He could well take a long time off from wrestling and explore other things.
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Meltz sounded pretty certain Ambrose isn’t keen on taking time off. He just wants creative outlets. I can understand why.
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I’ll watch the Zayn promo, and I’m sure he delivered it well, but it sounds like it’s just bashing the fans for being critics? How about wrestling doesn’t suck?
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Ambrose was the best promo guy on the indies so if he can get back to that I'm all for it.
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Ambrose was a good promo guy in WWE until his initial fued with Seth ended, then they just had him be more and more goofy as time went on.
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Old 04-08-2019, 11:49 PM   #510
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There was a time when Corbin had really short matches on NXT and everyone was okay with it.
Kinda. He was getting the Goldberg push, no doubt, but he was having squash matches to protect the fact that he was pretty ass. Any match that went on longer than thirty seconds exposed him, and he actually started losing the NXT crowd in a relatively short amount of time. It became clear he was a pet project like Roman Reigns or Eva Marie, and he was pretty much going to go over no matter how much people wanted to see it or not.
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Wonder what merging would mean for US and IC title...
The same thing it meant last time they did it: jack and shit. And then they'll just have a tournament a few years later when they re-introduce whichever belt they "retired".

Merging belts doesn't solve a problem that shitty booking creates.
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they should merge the tag titles..all of them. Intergender tag matches
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Hahahahaha cracking up at extremely random The Bar interference
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I’m still in disbelief. Like, someone with power thought that would be a hot and interesting way to hook viewers. Amazing. I don’t know if it’ll ever register with me.

Fuck, why not just The Ascension run in? Or Sanity? Sure, they’re lower, but is a damp blanket that much better than a wet one?
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I’m trying to think of an analogy. I can’t come up with a direct one. Maybe if X-Factor took out Rock after Mania X-7 as the big angle? Actually, maybe Haku & Rikishi are more appropriate, as they kind of flirted with pushing Rikishi and Haku at different times.
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Or Show-Gunns. Big Show was a former champion and Billy Gunn was given odd things here and there.
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Or Hogan and Triple H face off at Mania X-8, but Billy & Chuck interfere.
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Damn, ale those results are stupid.

Shane defeatd The Miz? Kofi deafead THe Miz? Triple H defeated Batista?
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