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Old 01-22-2015, 10:19 AM   #3441
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Can't believe everyone thinks patriots cheated. They played a fair game and the better team won. Can't wait until they win the SuperBowl
That's the smartest thing you've ever said here but fuck off you bandwagoning piece of shit. The wagon has left. Go suck Johnny Manzeils nuts.
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Old 01-22-2015, 10:20 AM   #3442
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That's the smartest thing you've ever said here but fuck off you bandwagoning piece of shit. The wagon has left. Go suck Johnny Manzeils nuts.
Resort to chatting shit eh? Go fuck yourself, you're just mad you're colts lost
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How is it smart if it's incorrect?
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Old 01-22-2015, 10:23 AM   #3444
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How is it smart if it's incorrect?
This is irrefutable factual evidence people. Everyone knows the Colts didn't have a chance nor do the Seahawks. Tom Brady and Bill Belicheks greatness can't be overlooked. And I'd appreciate it if you guys showed more respect.
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How is it smart if it's incorrect?
Baby steps.
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That doesn't answer my question.
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Tom Brady is having some sort of press conference today. Wonder if he'll take the blame for the balls.
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Tom Brady was playing with deflated balls a long time ago when he let Jizzhead fit him with a fresh set of titty pink Uggs.
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So how many times do the Patriots get to be involved in scandals before it starts degrading their legacy? I've long though Bellicheck was the best coach ever....now I'm starting to wonder how much of the time his teams spent figuring out ways to skirt the rules and/or outright cheat without getting caught.

Either way, considering the punishment Sean Payton got for bountygate, even though he was said to have no direct involvement, if Bill isn't suspended for the entirety of next season it is pure shenanigans. Remember what you said to Sean, Goodell; "You're the coach, if you didn't know it was going on, you should have."
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So how many times do the Patriots get to be involved in scandals before it starts degrading their legacy? I've long though Bellicheck was the best coach ever....now I'm starting to wonder how much of the time his teams spent figuring out ways to skirt the rules and/or outright cheat without getting caught.

Either way, considering the punishment Sean Payton got for bountygate, even though he was said to have no direct involvement, if Bill isn't suspended for the entirety of next season it is pure shenanigans. Remember what you said to Sean, Goodell; "You're the coach, if you didn't know it was going on, you should have."
It's going to be draft picks, fines etc. It's not anything violent like Payton and The Saints were accused of. There's nothing to equate the two alleged cheating accusations. He will not be banned for a season for this. I don't get why you can even think that they are relate-able at all.

Besides what Goddell said to Payton was blown up in his face with the Ray Rice video scandal. He has no leg to stand on using that as a heavy punishment basis.
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It's going to be draft picks, fines etc. It's not anything violent like Payton and The Saints were accused of. There's nothing to equate the two alleged cheating accusations.
Bountygate wasn't cheating, though. Players were getting paid to potentially hurt other players. Guess what? In football you are going to hit other people as hard as you can every time, regardless of a bounty, because it's your job. People are going to get hurt either way. Sure, it was an unsavory tactic, but in reality it did absolutely NOTHING to change the outcome of games or put teams on uneven playing fields.

The difference is this: The Saints were assholes, The Patriots are cheaters.
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Patriots need to be punished worse [than they were for Spygate] for two reasons:

1. This is at least the second time they've been caught breaking the rules.
2. They were just caught cheating during a game.

It's not an accusation or an allegation, it's a fact. The team was caught breaking the rules. Staff members should be suspended for this, Belichick included, ideally starting with the Superbowl.
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The best would be if NE got pulled from the Superbowl. It wouldn't happen because NFL, but it would send a clear message.
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"I think we all know that quarterbacks, kickers, specialists have certain preferences on the footballs," Belichick said. "They know a lot more than I do. They're a lot more sensitive to it than I am. I hear them comment on it from time to time, but I can tell you, and they will tell you, that there's never any sympathy whatsoever from me on that subject. Zero.

"Tom's personal preferences on his footballs are something that he can talk about in much better detail and information than I could possibly provide."


How's that bus feel Brady? You know what. The Patriots and Belicheat are so smarter than this. I hope there are some reporters that have the balls the unleash hell on Brady right now. This is soo planned by Belicheat. I cant stand this dishonest organization. I've lost any respect. I know the Colts would have lost regardless, but it doesn't matter. These guys were planning to cheat anyways. This is a fucking joke. Goodall should be embarrassed, but most importantly, the Pats fan base should be sooooooo embarrassed right now. I don't even know how they can stay proud and I really feel sorry form them. They're good fans. And these cheating fucks have ruined a legacy.
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Bountygate wasn't cheating, though. Players were getting paid to potentially hurt other players. Guess what? In football you are going to hit other people as hard as you can every time, regardless of a bounty, because it's your job. People are going to get hurt either way. Sure, it was an unsavory tactic, but in reality it did absolutely NOTHING to change the outcome of games or put teams on uneven playing fields.

The difference is this: The Saints were assholes, The Patriots are cheaters.
It is against the rules to have Bounties. It was cheating.
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Bob Kraft needs to save face here. He seems like a decent man honestly. He needs to make a stand before he dies with all this cheating, dishonest bullshit hovering over him. Belichek is forming Krafts legact right now and it don't look good at all. Step up Kraft! Don't let this guy coach the Superbowl. Let Brady win it without this no good bastard and save his legacy too. This is fucking sad really.
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No matter how many rings this team gets, everyone outside of New England will forever remember the cheating.
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The NFL has not talked to Brady yet???????

Roger Goodell...
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I find it funny the Ravens ratted them out to the Colts after noticing the balls were light in the Ravens game
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"I feel like I have always played within the rules. I would never break the rules."

Except that whole Spygate thing that you apparently used to form a gameplan from and eventually went to a Superbowl...but we'll never know because good old Roger destroyed the tapes because he's the most incompetent Commissioner in the history of all sports. Gary Bettman don't even know what the fuck Roger Goodell is doing anymore.
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Bud Selig could stop the All- Star game for 2 hours so he can go take a massive shit and fuck Vietnamese hookers, and he would still come out a shinier turd than Roger Fucking Goodell.
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Damn. That is huge for the 49ers. I love Eric Mangini.
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Old 01-22-2015, 09:10 PM   #3470
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wait did someone in hear seriously just say that the Patriots using deflated footballs was worse than Gregg Williams' Saints bounty program

like did I read that right

please tell me I did not
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Old 01-22-2015, 09:11 PM   #3471
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also lol @ anyone who thinks that Bellichek is the only coach in the NFL who does shady things

literally every coach on every team does shit like that, the Patriots are just such an easy target to go after and form some narrative about, and I'm saying this as someone who hates obnoxious Pats fans more than anything. so ridiculous
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also lol @ anyone who thinks that Bellichek is the only coach in the NFL who does shady things

literally every coach on every team does shit like that, the Patriots are just such an easy target to go after and form some narrative about, and I'm saying this as someone who hates obnoxious Pats fans more than anything. so ridiculous
Go fuck yourself! :-)
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I'm sorry, but this ball has its own vagina in it! IT'S LIKE JAY LENOS FACE! Out of control!
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I'm nervous about this year's Super Bowl.


My heart is with Seattle, but I've got a bad feeling that the Pats take this one.


Then again - I had the same fears with Seattle/Denver last year and so...........
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Old 01-22-2015, 10:11 PM   #3476
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Truthfully, I don't want Tom Brady to have any involvement in this. I have a ton of respect for him. But then I hear a quote like " I didn't have any uhhhh.. I didn't doctor any balls "

Come on dude. You have a chance to absolve all involvement. Seriously?
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Old 01-22-2015, 10:18 PM   #3477
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45-7 is 45-7. It's the intention and the history and the integrity. I really hope Belichek and Brady are being truthful. I don't want to hear about some " rogue ballboy " in the next few days. I'll be irate !Seriously, I'm going to bed trying my best to give the benefit of the doubt to these guys. I'm trying really hard. I have no clue how Goodell has not talked to Brady. Utterly ridiculous and I hope everyone is talking about that too tomorrow morning.
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Serious prediction. Roger Goodell steps down as commissioner of the Nfl before next season.
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Wait. Are they trying to claim that Brady/Patriots deflated the balls in the Ravens game? Seriously? Hope the Patriots win just so Brady and be like "Fuck you all. Hate all you want but I am a beast."
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It is against the rules to have Bounties. It was cheating.
A lot of things are against the rules. Not all of them are cheating. Cheating is something that can effect the outcome; bounties couldn't do that. Spiking the football and celebrating too much is against the rules; is that cheating?

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"I feel like I have always played within the rules. I would never break the rules."

Except that whole Spygate thing that you apparently used to form a gameplan from and eventually went to a Superbowl...but we'll never know because good old Roger destroyed the tapes because he's the most incompetent Commissioner in the history of all sports. Gary Bettman don't even know what the fuck Roger Goodell is doing anymore.
I yelled pretty much exactly this at my TV and Tom Brady's smug mug as he gave his nicely prepared answers for the reporters.

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wait did someone in hear seriously just say that the Patriots using deflated footballs was worse than Gregg Williams' Saints bounty program

like did I read that right

please tell me I did not
Wasn't me. I don't think it is worse. I believe that bountygate was clearly much worse based solely on the intent; however, the direct effect bountygate had on actual games would be far lass than that of #Shrinkage. Like I said earlier, the Pats are cheaters, the Saints are assholes.
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