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Old 01-27-2020, 09:24 PM   #161
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Wonder how many more times they are going to replay the exact same Edge Rumble video during this show.

Already been like 3 times soo far.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:26 PM   #162
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Wonder how many more times they are going to replay the exact same Edge Rumble video during this show.

Already been like 3 times soo far.
They're telling the story of his career. It's something else as well as mining the emotion of that moment and letting it sink in.
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Haven't seen much (actually, I don't think I've seen anything) of Humberto. This will be interesting.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:27 PM   #164
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Good looking kid. Looks very "young." Not sure I buy him a bad-ass just based on his visual appearance.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:29 PM   #165
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Good looking kid. Looks very "young." Not sure I buy him a bad-ass just based on his visual appearance.
He’s very young, only 24
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:30 PM   #166
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Becky doing Connor again but she does do it well.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:31 PM   #168
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Humberto the definition of a baby face.
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Haven't seen much (actually, I don't think I've seen anything) of Humberto. This will be interesting.
He's good in the ring but Heyman's booking of him has been pretty bad since he got promoted from 205 Live. Him and Street Profits have been handled the worst out of Heyman's supposed hand-pick stars.

Like this might be the 3rd time Carrillo got a push jump started after the previous two were abruptly ended.
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crowd is dead as fuck for Andrade vs Humberto part 43
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:34 PM   #172
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Humberto def winning here right... Otherwise what's the point...
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Humberto won't go anywhere until they turn him heel.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:37 PM   #174
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They will either be putting the US Title on him or finishing him up. I got the impression from the stories that Vince was just not feeling it with him and Cedric Alexander, but Heyman does seem to be getting more and more control.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:37 PM   #175
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Really kind of think that Andrade is more the project, so I see him retaining and Humberto going in a different direction.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:38 PM   #176
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Wouldn't surprise me if Angel Garza is the top Hispanic guy they decide to go with.
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Kind of weird that Humberto is on Raw while Angel is on NXT.
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I wonder if McIntyre wins the WWE title if they'll remember Andrade beating him for the NXT title in 2017
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Match was decent but that ending stunk.
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I wonder how much two guys from Mexico having a match on WWE TV loses a lot of audiences. Maybe chalk it up to racism, or fans just not having an appreciation for lucha, but programs like Andrade/Humberto and Del Rio/Kalisto always seem to fall flat. I think they need to create Hispanic stars so that people care about their matches.
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Stuff like that doesn't hold up to logic. If you're gonna interfere in your client's match, why make him wrestle 20 minutes first?
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This is smart. Just as I was saying what I just did, he wins by DQ to move forward and cement another match, then he got an eye-for-an-eye justice. He's not a little boy who whinges and cries that Andrade tried to end my career. He's a man that will go and get retribution. You can feel the crowd reacting more to it.

He needs a lot of work. His facial expressions aren't there, and his music is pretty shit, but stuff like that will make him better overall. Andrade needs to ham up the injury.
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Stuff like that doesn't hold up to logic. If you're gonna interfere in your client's match, why make him wrestle 20 minutes first?
Because, ideally, your client would win and dispatch of a challenger. Also, they get pissed and shit like their head getting bounced off concrete happens.
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If Andrade won, Humberto would be dead. If Humberto won, the crowd would shrug it off and be like "So?" and that would look awful. Heyman is trying to encourage people to invest and give more edge to this guy.
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I wonder how much two guys from Mexico having a match on WWE TV loses a lot of audiences. Maybe chalk it up to racism, or fans just not having an appreciation for lucha, but programs like Andrade/Humberto and Del Rio/Kalisto always seem to fall flat. I think they need to create Hispanic stars so that people care about their matches.
Its more due to Vince and WWE historically have rarely handled or booked lucha style wrestling well. Even NXT and 205 Live struggles as well but not at the level of main roster shows.

Only reason Rey and Eddie became huge stars for WWE's Hispanic market was due to both already being made or having big name value before joining the company.
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Zelina Vega and Andrade need to be fucking heels coming out of this. Not just pull pouty faces and act like snobs. They need to be heels. Threaten Humberto with lawsuits, appear in a neck-brace, hire security details to protect them from that unhinged Garza cousin. What they need is for the Raw audience to care about where this goes next, as opposed to just matches, and they need Andrade to be under their skin and Humberto to be likeable.
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Being in the arena for Edge's retirement announcement was so surreal.

Glad he's getting the chance to come back and eventually go out on his own terms.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:51 PM   #189
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Got a feeling Raw might be ending in an RKO and/or a punt...
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:51 PM   #190
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Edge's return milked dry in under 2 hrs, jesus
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Actually interested to see what happens here with Charlotte. It feels like there isn't an obvious/clear path.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:53 PM   #192
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Edge's return milked dry in under 2 hrs, jesus
This is how you promote something throughout a show. They are telling the story of the guy's career, from tag specialist to Royal Rumble Winner to champion to retirement.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:53 PM   #193
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Its more due to Vince and WWE historically have rarely handled or booked lucha style wrestling well. Even NXT and 205 Live struggles as well but not at the level of main roster shows.

Only reason Rey and Eddie became huge stars for WWE's Hispanic market was due to both already being made or having big name value before joining the company.
Correct. WCW Cruiserweight matches weren't piss breaks
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This segment is def a piss break tho
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:54 PM   #195
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Hey Noid they can do that w/o the Rumble clip from yesterday each time

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Old 01-27-2020, 09:55 PM   #196
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They're doing that fucking stupid AEW thing where they say there's going to be an announcement and then go "next week!"
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Correct. WCW Cruiserweight matches weren't piss breaks
Yeup and even when WCW started to stop caring about the division, they still kept it in the lucha style instead of watering it down or forcing it to fit in the WCW/NWA style.
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Actually interested to see what happens here with Charlotte. It feels like there isn't an obvious/clear path.
I kinda want Rhea Ripley to beat Bianca Bel Air at Takeover and then basically challenge Charlotte to challenge her for a match at WM. It makes no sense for Charlotte to want to be NXT women's Champion but whatever
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I wouldn't hate Charlotte vs. Rhea Ripley. I thought that might have been where her promo was going. Either that or "I'll take them all."
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