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Old 11-04-2021, 04:11 PM   #2801
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Raw did 1.69 million across the three hours. They’re almost doubling them, and I believe they saw an increase from last week. Who’s out of touch in this whole situation?
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Old 11-04-2021, 04:14 PM   #2802
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Across the two competitive hours, Raw got 1.71 million viewers, which is more than double. Imagine if Dynamite had a third hour dragging its numbers down every week.
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Old 11-04-2021, 04:24 PM   #2803
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878k for Dynamite this week. Ouch.

For those who care about the demo, it was down 20%. When you take that away from them, what do they have to lean on? Women and older viewers aren’t suddenly going to come along and give them something to brag about.

Not a surprise that less people are engaged after that STUPID angle in the main event last week. Also, this week they had to randomly throw a guy into a tournament instead of giving a guy a bye to the finals because the booking is so shit.
The fact that they had a guy to throw into the tournament instead of having him in the tournament to begin with is a bigger blemish on the booking.
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Old 11-04-2021, 06:12 PM   #2804
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The fact that they had a guy to throw into the tournament instead of having him in the tournament to begin with is a bigger blemish on the booking.
I mentioned this someone else, but that you can’t just give the heel a bye into the finals and have them brag about it and maybe do an angle with them and the guy that had to earn that last win is indeed an indicator of how silly this company can be. You can’t have Orange Cassidy in that PPV match against Danielson — so don’t book him to look good in the tournament!

Why they are even doing a tournament to crown a #1 contender right now when they just did a Ladder Match to give a guy his shot that he hasn’t even gotten yet is absolutely bonkers. They may as well do a Battle Royal to open up the PPV to give someone a title shot too.

The PPV should just be Omega vs. Danielson. You’ve also got Cole and Christian Cage. Jurassic Express vs. The Young Bucks. If you NEED Adam Page back, you could have him announced as the enforcer for the main event. He can win a prelim match. Whatever. Danielson wins when Page foils heel interference. Omega whines on Dynamite and Page comes out in his hometown to start a program with Omega as Danielson moves into something with someone like MJF, heel Cody, Malakai Black, maybe Miro. Maybe CM Punk or Adam Cole. This isn’t rocket science.
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Old 11-06-2021, 02:51 PM   #2805
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Bad numbers for both, damn
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But why would WWE leak that? Oh wait, that’s a load of shit.
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Old 11-06-2021, 06:27 PM   #2807
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But why would WWE leak that? Oh wait, that’s a load of shit.
Thats a good conspiracy theory, that nobody in the world has access to fast Nationals but WWE, and WWE only releases them to make AEW look bad
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Old 11-07-2021, 01:17 PM   #2808
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Thats a good conspiracy theory, that nobody in the world has access to fast Nationals but WWE, and WWE only releases them to make AEW look bad
I don’t think it can count as “leaking” if the information is available on request.
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Old 11-08-2021, 05:21 PM   #2809
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599k for Rampage. 2.093 million for SmackDown.
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Old 11-08-2021, 07:44 PM   #2810
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I don’t think it can count as “leaking” if the information is available on request.
Exactly, but the dirt sheet writers have somehow ignored Rampage losing half its audience in 2 months as only because WWE leaks the fast ratings to make AEW look bad.
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Exactly, but the dirt sheet writers have somehow ignored Rampage losing half its audience in 2 months as only because WWE leaks the fast ratings to make AEW look bad.
Oh yeah, it’s a load of shit. Dirt sheet writers are going to keep the lid on any truth that blows the “AEW is killing it and WWE better learn from all their mistakes” narrative. SmackDown seems to be the show that is holding up better than any of them. But when Rampage or Dynamite slips it’s...the news, football, basketball, baseball, Covid, a lack of Covid — whatever flies that week.

It can’t be that the show isn’t that compelling to people, can it?
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That’s only like 3 Rampages.
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Old 11-13-2021, 04:55 PM   #2814
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Fast nationals have SmackDown at 1.99 million and Rampage at 480k.

RIP, Rampage.

When that show gets canned, I wonder how that will affect Dynamite, since WarnerMedia paid for two shows when they extended the deal that Meltzer called “winning.”
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That third hour of Raw people say is death? 1.37 million. Rampage? 480k. That’ll probably be bumped up to above 500k when the numbers come in, but I think it is safe to say this experiment has been a complete and utter failure.
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The TBS move is probably going to hurt them further. Interesting times ahead.
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Lol more like 4 Rampages now
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WWE gets mocked when they do 1.6 million. If they lost half their audience over a span of a couple of months, they would be dragged over coal by critics.

Rampage debuted with like 750k viewers. Punk spiked them to 1 million. But the show is boring, patterned and bad and now they’re at 500k. Can people finally admit that AEW sucks?
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515k for Rampage.
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984k for Dynamite. That’s even with the post-show bump and title change. Given their story going forward is “bully Bryan Danielson” beating up losers, you can probably be rest assured that rating will sink lower and lower over the next few weeks.
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556k for Rampage! A climb!
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I apologize for ever doubting the drawing power of Billy Gunn. He truly is the future of this industry. And I apologize for ever thinking this show was going to end up cancelled and potentially casting shade onto the whole WarnerMedia/AEW deal. Rampage is the game-changer.
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Bryan Danielson heel turn and feud with babyface jobber faction didn’t help ratings, apparently. 898k.
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Bryan Danielson heel turn and feud with babyface jobber faction didn’t help ratings, apparently. 898k.
They better sign some more free agents or run a special theme Dynamite ASAP if they want to get a million one more time on TNT before being shipped off to TBS.
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They buy an audience, then they whittle it down. I don’t think the move to TBS is going to be good for them. Just because it is in more homes doesn’t mean that more people watch it. I can see a lot of people tuning out when they do the switch.
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TK out there bragging about this number by comparing it to previous years. Never mind that Dynamite was still against NXT last year and the year before there was a major blackout.

1.4 million people were watching wrestling last year. 37% of those people didn’t tune in this Wednesday. It’s not a win, Tony.
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TK out there bragging about this number by comparing it to previous years. Never mind that Dynamite was still against NXT last year and the year before there was a major blackout.

1.4 million people were watching wrestling last year. 37% of those people didn’t tune in this Wednesday. It’s not a win, Tony.
He is a turd. He has become the most unlikable thing about AEW by far.
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They have this smug, sore winner thing about them. And they don’t even win anything, lol.
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They have this smug, sore winner thing about them. And they don’t even win anything, lol.
Rampage rocking a 431k rating, somehow Tony thinks he beat Smackdown and that TNT loves him.
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Ouch. People will point to Black Friday, but you also have a lot of people stuffed and at home looking for something to watch on TV. Is it a big party night? And let’s see if they ever recover from these disruptions that people peg excuses on.

The last thing you want is to disrupt viewing habits, and AEW just finds itself in position after position where viewing habits are being challenged. And that TBS move is going to do that too. And the big iceberg that I don’t think many apologists have seen coming is that people who watch TBS now are going to have their viewing habits challenged too. I’m no fan of The Big Bang Theory myself, but I know it is very popular, and I’m sure there are quite a few people who watch it now that don’t want to be sitting down enjoying their Wednesday evening with a BBT marathon, just to discover that trashy wrestling is on their screen. And if TBS works out they are taking a hit in advertising revenue by shoving this wrestling into the place this even cheaper sitcom marathon was? Yikes.
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I did a quick scour of some places, and it seems that even AEW loyalists are taking pause at that Rampage number. It’s not good.

The thing is, that graveyard slot is what was assigned to them. TK acts like he “chose it,” but that’s where WarnerMedia sees AEW and how it sees AEW fans. They may have counted on more loyalty, but it’s not peak positioning like they want it to be the best dog in show.

Even though I’m no fan of this company or its ethos, I would probably at least try to out Rampage on at 7pm on Friday. You can move the movie back a bit to a later time (which might actually be more convenient for the film). I dunno, it depends how valuable AEW actually is for advertising and whether or not giving Rampage a better slot is “worth it.”

But this show is a detriment to everything. From AEW’s end, they should probably scrap Dark and Rampage. Focus on Dynamite and maybe Elevation if you are getting ridiculous money from a YouTube partnership. Maybe look into syndication if you can buy ROH and that slot, and maybe running house shows every now and then to keep fervor for ticket sales going, if projections predict that, where you can let guys go for longer and create fun shows for people to go to that isn’t risking overexposure. You can tape them for some sort of future tape library/streaming service.
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1.68 million for RAW promoting Edge's return and Vince on tv.
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1.68 million for RAW promoting Edge's return and Vince on tv.
So almost double what AEW got. How did the first two hours go? It’d be interesting to compare the prime time hours.
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1.721 million for Raw’s first 2 hours.

If you do an AEW-like squint, where you just compare what you want, Dynamite + Rampage averaged 665k viewers. Raw doing 1.68 million doesn’t look so bad next to that, right?
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1.721 million for Raw’s first 2 hours.

If you do an AEW-like squint, where you just compare what you want, Dynamite + Rampage averaged 665k viewers. Raw doing 1.68 million doesn’t look so bad next to that, right?
"That number doesnt even count, it was Cyber Monday, so OF COURSE Raw's ratings were down!!!!" ~ Alternate Universe Dave Meltzer where he shills for WWE instead
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Noid this is why people think you are uhinged sir

I posted about RAW and you responded not once but twice, and both responses bring up AEW. You gotta get fresh air dude.
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Naw, that was for alternate reality Dave Meltzer, still a douche but a WWE douche, so he is a tiny bit better
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Noid this is why people think you are uhinged sir

I posted about RAW and you responded not once but twice, and both responses bring up AEW. You gotta get fresh air dude.
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