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Old 02-08-2022, 06:27 AM   #3361
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Then I realised that’s also not quite a 1:1 analogy.

AEW would be the equivalent of a new soap opera launching but with a bunch of already established characters from EastEnders and Coronation Street amongst its cast. Which would probably draw pretty huge if suddenly Gail Platt and Kat Slater were calling each other SLLLLAAAAAAGGGGGG in the middle of the street.

So, I guess this leads me to conclude that AEW is shit, and nobody should get any enjoyment from it.
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Then I realised that’s also not quite a 1:1 analogy.

AEW would be the equivalent of a new soap opera launching but with a bunch of already established characters from EastEnders and Coronation Street amongst its cast. Which would probably draw pretty huge if suddenly Gail Platt and Kat Slater were calling each other SLLLLAAAAAAGGGGGG in the middle of the street.

So, I guess this leads me to conclude that AEW is shit, and nobody should get any enjoyment from it.
I don’t know who those EastEnders characters are, but that’s basically what you have going on. They’re not brand new. They’re building off an existing wrestling climate and have access to top names and a national platform. They just haven’t captured imaginations because they suck.

And look — I’m all for people enjoying what they want. But the idea that AEW is helping things is a myth. Interest in wrestling continues to hit all-time lows. They’ve soaked up talent so groups like ROH and Impact Wrestling have suffered. WWE is under no threat so they can deliberately be more like the WWE they want to be, which is apparently the big no-no AEW is supposed to be fighting against.

My argument from the start is that AEW is bad for wrestling. Especially long-term. A lot of people take issue with that because they think short-term and just see a bunch of people getting a lot of money and another show and think it’s great. Since AEW has come along, we’ve also seen NXT boosted to cable television, so we’ve now got an extra five hours of wrestling a week. Eight when AEW runs a PPV.

It’s too much bad wrestling poisoning the well. My only hope is that people become even more nostalgic for good shit through social media, YouTube, streaming services and it just being so far removed that it can make a glorious comeback in a few years time (we could be talking decades though).
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And look, here is another hypothesis of mine: If another billionaire threw their hat into the ring. Let’s say they poached a couple of key AEW guys and got a basic cable platform. I guarantee they could use that talent better and get better ratings. Guaranteed.

AEW is not operating at the highest level that an alternative product to WWE could. It’s basically more of the same in many ways.
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Old 02-08-2022, 11:55 AM   #3364
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I’ll take your word that you don’t know who those Eastenders characters are.
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Thanks. We get it over here on cable, but I’ve never watched.
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Also, you cannot seriously rest the issues of Impact wrestling at the (forbidden) door of AEW. TNA/Impact is the blueprint of what not to do when you’re trying to be the competition. They’ve had to scale down entirely due to their own missteps.

Alas, it does seem AEW are following that blueprint a little too closely for now.
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Thanks. We get it over here on cable, but I’ve never watched.
Don’t let not watching get in the way of writing 300 word op-eds about it.
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Don’t let not watching get in the way of writing 300 word op-eds about it.
I’m not well-versed in it enough. But I could certainly write about its influence or success.
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1.38 million for RAW on SyFy, the network change definitely had an effect on ratings
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RAW went to SyFy? Huh?
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Then I realised that’s also not quite a 1:1 analogy.

AEW would be the equivalent of a new soap opera launching but with a bunch of already established characters from EastEnders and Coronation Street amongst its cast. Which would probably draw pretty huge if suddenly Gail Platt and Kat Slater were calling each other SLLLLAAAAAAGGGGGG in the middle of the street.

So, I guess this leads me to conclude that AEW is shit, and nobody should get any enjoyment from it.
Its not about the actual show, it is about the people on the show acting like assholes over bottom of the barrel ratings.

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1.38 million for RAW on SyFy, the network change definitely had an effect on ratings
Holy shit, they still beat AEW?! I thought for sure AEW would win this week and they’d trot around with it like a real victory, ignoring that Raw was on SyFy. Holy shit.
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Its not about the actual show, it is about the people on the show acting like assholes over bottom of the barrel ratings.

This is such a fantastic meme and it suits AEW so perfectly.
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Its not about the actual show, it is about the people on the show acting like assholes over bottom of the barrel ratings.
Yeah I did mean to say something about that but forgot. It’s not a good look either way is it? Best case scenario is you look like an ungracious winner. I hated it when WWE used to do those little things where they were like “Last week’s Raw had more ____ than _____ combined”. I was always like who gives a fuck?
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It looks bad if you’re “winning,” but it looks especially sad if you’re not winning but act like you are. And if you are winning it draws attention to when you’re not.
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Holy shit, they still beat AEW?! I thought for sure AEW would win this week and they’d trot around with it like a real victory, ignoring that Raw was on SyFy. Holy shit.
Assuming AEW gets the standard rating pop for all the hype of a major debut, it could be close. I would like AEW to beat Raw in total viewership once so all the dummies that work there can brag about how total viewers suddenly matters
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Yeah I did mean to say something about that but forgot. It’s not a good look either way is it? Best case scenario is you look like an ungracious winner. I hated it when WWE used to do those little things where they were like “Last week’s Raw had more ____ than _____ combined”. I was always like who gives a fuck?
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Assuming AEW gets the standard rating pop for all the hype of a major debut, it could be close. I would like AEW to beat Raw in total viewership once so all the dummies that work there can brag about how total viewers suddenly matters
That would be amazing actually. If it doesn’t happen on one of these SyFy shows then we’re going to be waiting for a lot of these 49 yr olds in the “key demo” to have their birthdays before the narrative changes.
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Wow TBS and the stars of AEW like Keith Lee, Moxley, Punk, FTR, Archer & Hangman more over than Nathan Chen and the Olympics! Also, NHL and NBA was playing and NCAA basketball too! Big 10!
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He’s still on the hunt for those posts where I’m “crying about AEW not hitting 1m viewers”. He might be a while…
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Old 02-10-2022, 04:59 PM   #3387
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Big bang theory fans are getting pissed now about shitty AEW after their show. They will never hit a million again and either be cancelled or moved to a shitty timeslots in the next year.
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Old 02-11-2022, 02:38 AM   #3388
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Hahaha, 1.13 million people tuned in for a big surprise just to get a broken Keith Lee. The number itself is sad, but good by AEW standards. They’ve only got so many people who will give them attention left to burn.
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Old 02-11-2022, 02:39 AM   #3389
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Raw on SyFy beat them. Woof.
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Old 02-11-2022, 04:35 AM   #3390
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Old 02-12-2022, 11:08 PM   #3391
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473k for Rampage. Maybe selling your soul for a one week Dynamite boost only to disappoint people wasn’t the brightest idea?
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Old 02-14-2022, 07:26 PM   #3392
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Rampage drew a 0.19 rating in the 18-49 key demographic. This is down 5% from the previous week’s episode, which drew a 0.20 rating in the key demo. Friday’s 0.19 rating represents 248,000 18-49 viewers, which is down 5.70% from the 263,000 18-49 viewers that the previous week’s 0.20 key demo rating represented, according to Wrestlenomics.
It's happening, all those 49 year olds are starting to turn 50.

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Old 02-15-2022, 12:28 PM   #3393
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Old 02-15-2022, 04:35 PM   #3394
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Old 02-15-2022, 06:40 PM   #3395
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Old 02-15-2022, 08:25 PM   #3396
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Imagine what the Raw Ratings will be once the show is built around Cody!

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Old 02-16-2022, 01:25 AM   #3397
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Lol at another SyFy Raw beating AEW.
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Old 02-16-2022, 01:26 AM   #3398
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Even if you add Rampage to the Dynamite number…nope.
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Old 02-17-2022, 04:34 PM   #3399
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869,000 viewers for Dynamite

Cody knew the ship was sinking
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Old 02-17-2022, 04:51 PM   #3400
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869,000 viewers for Dynamite

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Ouch! I expected under 1 million because of the letdowns, but wow.
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