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Old 04-03-2019, 02:59 PM   #81
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But you were comparing him to Koko who was literally a JTTS. Brutus was at Jake Roberts level.
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Old 04-03-2019, 03:58 PM   #82
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It's also ok to admit you misread what I wrote, and I never called the dude a jobber or that he wasn't worthy of the Hall of fame.
You likened him to KoKo B. Ware who was a prelim guy. He was also at Jake's level if not above it. The only feud I can remember Snake winning was against Martel lol. I guess he beat Hercules who was pretty much just a jobber.

Accept that you've lost and move on, fiend.
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Old 04-03-2019, 05:28 PM   #83
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You likened him to KoKo B. Ware who was a prelim guy. He was also at Jake's level if not above it. The only feud I can remember Snake winning was against Martel lol. I guess he beat Hercules who was pretty much just a jobber.

Accept that you've lost and move on, fiend.
Jake Roberts beat Andre the Giant at Wrestlemania...
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Old 04-03-2019, 05:31 PM   #84
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I wouldn't put him above Jake. I'd put him with Jake.
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Old 04-03-2019, 05:40 PM   #85
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But you were comparing him to Koko who was literally a JTTS. Brutus was at Jake Roberts level.
Brutus was an over gimmick but not a great worker, like Koko.
Jake was an over gimmick and a great worker, like Tito.

That was the comparison.
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Old 04-03-2019, 05:44 PM   #86
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Also, getting guys ready to feed to Hogan meant losing to those guys. It didn't mean they were bad, it meant they were trusted to make the heels look as strong as possible for Hulk.
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Old 04-03-2019, 05:45 PM   #87
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Brother Bruti was a tag team champion. Even though he was the lesser of the Dream Team he was champion.

Over like rover.

Koko was over in Mempho and everywhere he went. JTTS at the end of his career in the WWF but he had higggggggggggh eneeeeeergggyy and Frankie. Yeahhhhh!

Both are worthy of WWE Hall of Fame because it's just what Vince says and goes.

Torrie Wilson is the new bottom for the Hall of Fame in terms of quality.
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Old 04-03-2019, 06:59 PM   #88
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Jake Roberts beat Andre the Giant at Wrestlemania...
It was a non-finish if anything. He got his shit stomped and John Studd saved him IIRC. Not exactly a DDT in the middle of the ring.
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Old 04-03-2019, 07:49 PM   #89
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Also, getting guys ready to feed to Hogan meant losing to those guys. It didn't mean they were bad, it meant they were trusted to make the heels look as strong as possible for Hulk.
That was more of a Hillbilly Jim/Hacksaw Duggan kinda role. Brutus wasn't getting fed to the Hogan monsters. He was protected big time because he was Hogans buddy
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Old 04-03-2019, 07:50 PM   #90
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4 names reportedly rumored for the Legacy Section are Wahoo McDaniel, Jim Barnett, Luna Vachon and Playboy Buddy Rose

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Old 04-03-2019, 07:53 PM   #91
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Alright I concede, Brutus Beefcake was the 2nd best wrestler in all of WWF behind Hogan for years. Way to go Brutus.
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Old 04-03-2019, 07:54 PM   #92
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He was sure protected that way, even though he was hot garbage.
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He was sure protected that way, even though he was hot garbage.
Not protected parasailing...
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Old 04-03-2019, 08:29 PM   #94
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Haha no he was not
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Old 04-03-2019, 08:33 PM   #95
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Lol the greatest thing is when Brutus made his return to the WWE and the crowd shitting all over him during his interview with McMahon in the ring. Someone yells "let's go sailing" and "kill yourself"

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Lol the greatest thing is when Brutus made his return to the WWE and the crowd shitting all over him during his interview with McMahon in the ring. Someone yells "let's go sailing" and "kill yourself"

That was right when ECW really started gaining some steam, I'm guessing a few of that Raw fans were taking their heckling "to the, EXTREME" (insert Paul Hey man voice).
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Old 04-03-2019, 10:01 PM   #97
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4 names reportedly rumored for the Legacy Section are Wahoo McDaniel, Jim Barnett, Luna Vachon and Playboy Buddy Rose

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Lol It’s silly to have a “legacy” section. What makes Luna a legacy inductee instead of a regular inductee? Just makes it all needlessly more convoluted.
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Lol It’s silly to have a “legacy” section. What makes Luna a legacy inductee instead of a regular inductee? Just makes it all needlessly more convoluted.
Yeah that makes no sense. Luna wrestled this century.

"The Legacy wing of the WWE Hall of Fame serves to honor the pre-television history of professional wrestling (or at least, the pre-modern era of professional wrestling), as a means both to pay tribute to the fact that the art form has been around and been extremely popular for well over 100 years, and to further legitimize the modern inductees that contemporary fans are familiar with."

Yep, that is Luna lol
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Old 04-03-2019, 10:49 PM   #99
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Even Buddy Rose is weird for that era. He was doing jobs for the WWF in like 90-91
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Old 04-04-2019, 08:34 AM   #100
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The whole point of the Legacy Wing was that it honored people from before wrestling was on TV.

Now they’re just oversatursting it.
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Old 04-04-2019, 08:36 AM   #101
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Maybe it’s Vivian Vachon going in?
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Old 04-04-2019, 09:46 AM   #102
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WTF? If Luna is a "legacy" inductee then so is Bruno, Warrior, Koko, basically at least half of the "regular" inductees. This company is so stupid it honestly deserves to go bankrupt, as does the McMahon family, not that it will happen or that I think it should, but FFS it's absolutely deserved.
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Old 04-04-2019, 09:52 AM   #103
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Yeah the whole Luna thing is strange
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If Luna's going in that signals to me that the Legacy Wing is just going to turn into "here's some more deceased wrestlers we don't wanna do full posthumous inductions for"
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They're gonna wait for Fred Ottman to kick the bucket and put The Natural Disasters into the Legacy Wing
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Old 04-04-2019, 10:23 AM   #106
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If Luna's going in that signals to me that the Legacy Wing is just going to turn into "here's some more deceased wrestlers we don't wanna do full posthumous inductions for"
I did read somewhere that there has not been a legacy inductee that is alive. Maybe they decided that is all that is needed, and they will no longer induct a deceased person unless they were part of a team and have a living member to give the speech.

Unless they can make money off indicting the deceased, then they will still do it.
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Old 04-04-2019, 10:46 AM   #107
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It's gotta just be a new "rule" about deceased inductions. I honestly thought part of the Legacy Wing was they were putting in people they didn't have a ton of footage readily available for. And that obviously isn't the case with Luna.

Toss in that Gangrel would, presumably, happily accept on her behalf and it's just a really puzzling choice to not give her a full induction.
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Old 04-04-2019, 01:20 PM   #108
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It's gotta just be a new "rule" about deceased inductions. I honestly thought part of the Legacy Wing was they were putting in people they didn't have a ton of footage readily available for. And that obviously isn't the case with Luna.

Toss in that Gangrel would, presumably, happily accept on her behalf and it's just a really puzzling choice to not give her a full induction.
Man, I forgot about Gangrel kind of. Last I heard or saw anything about him he was still doing the blood in the chalice vampire gimmick on the indies years ago. Wouldn't be surprised to see him in the HOF one day soon. He wasn't the greatest worker but he was pretty over due to his entrance and gimmick and is no less deserving than some of the other folks they've put in, so I wouldn't hate it.
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Old 04-04-2019, 01:57 PM   #109
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Lol the greatest thing is when Brutus made his return to the WWE and the crowd shitting all over him during his interview with McMahon in the ring. Someone yells "let's go sailing" and "kill yourself"

Look at the smile on Vince's face on :15-:16 after he called Beefer an all time great.
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If Luna's going in that signals to me that the Legacy Wing is just going to turn into "here's some more deceased wrestlers we don't wanna do full posthumous inductions for"
Its also just a very lazy way to boost the legitimacy for their Hall since now its no longer just based on WWE and whichever companies they own the tape libraries for.

At least in regards to women's wrestling, it was always going to be very slim pickings for legitimate Hall of Fame caliber candidates due to WWE's historical poor handling of their women's division till very recently. They could have done Luna this year and save Torrie for next year if they actually cared about this year's class.
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Old 04-05-2019, 09:01 AM   #111
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Here's the full list of Legacy inductees

█Bruiser Brody, Wahoo McDaniel, Luna Vachon, SD Jones, Professor Toru Tanaka, Primo Carnera, Madison Square Garden Network creator Joseph Cohen, Former WWF President Hisashi Shinma, and Playboy Buddy Rose.

Very cool list this year.
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Apparently Jimmy Hart is going to be at WWE's Hall of Fame ceremony which makes the decision to not have him be inducted into the Hart Foundation even more perplexing.

WWE announced he's going to be the inductor for the Honky Tonk Man.
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yeah ole vince hates the w word
He's a fucking bellend when it comes to that shit, the only difference his product has to "pro wrestling" is a bigger budget than it had before. Fuck all else, yet he has it in his head that what he does is so much different to what people did before. Delusional old tit.
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Wow, some retard storming the ring just now.
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Wow, some retard storming the ring just now.
Was it Eugene?
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Was it Eugene?
Wearing what looked like a rastafarian hat or something
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