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Old 02-19-2019, 03:38 AM   #1
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Paige Blames Fans Instead of WWE for Holding Back Women's Wrestling
Paige had a recent interview with newspaper Gulf News and besides talking a bunch about her new film, she also mentioned that fans are to blame for why women's wrestling in WWE was in a dire situation for a long time.

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“It was never WWE holding the women back. It was the fans not taking them seriously. They wanted to see more of the male characters many years ago. It was a male dominated sport.

When I first started, there were only five women there. It was a struggle but WWE just believed in us. When I got into the ring, I wanted to prove to the fans that girls were capable of having good matches and sometimes, even better. That was kind of my mission from the get go. Now there’s obviously a revolution.”
https://gulfnews.com/entertainment/h...son-1.62146979

Predictably, Paige has been getting a lot of online backlash from those comments and people pulling up countless instances where WWE held back women's wrestling and treated it as nothing more than "piss break" or "eye candy only" stuff.

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Old 02-19-2019, 04:30 AM   #2
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Ever since I first saw AJW and saw what women's wrestling could be, I've wanted WWE's women's division to be just as good. It's never been even remotely close. Not even now. In part due to WWE''s forced, tryhard marketing, and in part because there are only a handful of genuinely talented in ring performers in their "revolution".
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Old 02-19-2019, 04:39 AM   #3
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Ever since I first saw AJW and saw what women's wrestling could be, I've wanted WWE's women's division to be just as good. It's never been even remotely close. Not even now. In part due to WWE''s forced, tryhard marketing, and in part because there are only a handful of genuinely talented in ring performers in their "revolution".
On Monday your a NERD, on Tuesday your a NERD, on Wensday though Saturday your a NERD, then on Sunday just to be different your a super NERD
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Old 02-19-2019, 04:41 AM   #4
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She's right i can remember seeing some good matches during that time and fan's not caring.
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:02 AM   #5
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Old 02-19-2019, 03:23 PM   #6
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On Monday your a NERD, on Tuesday your a NERD, on Wensday though Saturday your a NERD, then on Sunday just to be different your a super NERD
The meth is hurting your ability to spell.
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Old 02-19-2019, 05:31 PM   #7
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When she says there were 5 women there when she started, does she mean NXT? Cos surely there was something more than 5 on the main roster.
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She sounds like every bitter retired wrestler ever.
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Yeah, sure, it had nothing whatsoever to do with Vince only hiring women he could ogle from backstage for the longest time. Come the fuck on.
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It’s Jerry Lawlers fault with his relentless “puppies” comments....plus the women have been awful for a long time and still are 50% terrible.
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Fuck you fans but see my movie.

Is the girl fucking retarded?
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Yeah, sure, it had nothing whatsoever to do with Vince only hiring women he could ogle from backstage for the longest time. Come the fuck on.
I was at a ppv where Melina faced Mickie good match and the crowd was disinterested so yeah she has a point.

Y'all nerds don't like when shots get taken at y'all from the wrestlers and it gets y'all in your feelings.
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You were at a wrestling show live where you were the only person in the crowd enjoying a Mickie vs Melina match and now you post on a wrestling forum daily to call out others for being nerds as if you’re above them.

Just let that sink in.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:40 AM   #15
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Also, Paige clearly hasn’t figured out yet how to toe the line of being a company kissass without going full retard.
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Why is Black Widow not dead yet?

Anyways, Paige probably very thankful she has gotten about a bajillion chances with WWE despite her consistent idiocy. As a result, is now drinking company kool-aid.
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She's right i can remember seeing some good matches during that time and fan's not caring.

Conclusive proof at last
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Just throwing this in here that I've always said I thought Paige was overrated.
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I was at a ppv where Melina faced Mickie good match and the crowd was disinterested so yeah she has a point.

Y'all nerds don't like when shots get taken at y'all from the wrestlers and it gets y'all in your feelings.
You're not wrong. There were plenty of very good matches during that era. Mickie vs Melina Candice Michelle vs Melina, Candice vs Beth Pheonix. The crowds just didn't care.
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Did fans book the pudding matches? Also, weird time for her to flex on fans with that movie due out.
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You're not wrong. There were plenty of very good matches during that era. Mickie vs Melina Candice Michelle vs Melina, Candice vs Beth Pheonix. The crowds just didn't care.
eh. They were presented as afterthoughts and the fans treated it as such.

When presented as a big deal (like Trish and Lita), the fans liked it. And lita sucked but somehow the fans thought she was a badass cuz they said she was.
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Fuck you fans but see my movie.

Is the girl fucking retarded?
Wow easy on the mansplaining and definitely take it easy on the big R word pretty boy

It's 2019 on tpww what decade are you posting in
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You were at a wrestling show live where you were the only person in the crowd enjoying a Mickie vs Melina match and now you post on a wrestling forum daily to call out others for being nerds as if you’re above them.

Just let that sink in.
Yep not everyone on the internet has to have the same opinion.

Someone has to do it.

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I'm not dead yet cause i'm still alive pretty easy to figure out.


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Shouldn't she be off getting another retarded looking chest tattoo instead of flapping her gums?
Shouldn't you be buying some DDPYoga instead of crying on here.
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Old 02-20-2019, 05:38 PM   #26
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Speaking of respecting women’s wrestling, was it also the fans who put the NXT women’s title in her hands so Brad Maddox could jizz all over it?
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Old 02-20-2019, 05:53 PM   #27
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Twitter thread with a lot of instances of Paige being wrong in her claims.
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Old 02-20-2019, 07:24 PM   #28
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Shouldn't you be buying some DDPYoga instead of crying on here.

I will do when you're finished blowing me.
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Old 02-20-2019, 07:35 PM   #29
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You're not wrong. There were plenty of very good matches during that era. Mickie vs Melina Candice Michelle vs Melina, Candice vs Beth Pheonix. The crowds just didn't care.
The occasional good match isn’t going to maintain the audiences attention when it’s surrounded by so much pissbreak nonsense. There’s always been at any given time, a few women who truly care, and want to excel as performers, but that doesn’t really matter if the company isn’t willing to get behind the division as a whole.

It is what it is. Things aren’t perfect now, but I feel the division is in a better place than it was during the beginning of the women’s revolution. They’re still trying too hard at times but I also feel they’re allowing some things to happen more naturally, which is how women got over in nxt to begin with.
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Found it interesting that one of the basis for Paige's claims involved "puppies" being used in derogatory terms which was something that didn't really originate with fans but instead with WWE and Jerry "The King" Lawler.

Like no shit the fans are going to chant the phrase after being conditioned for years by WWE about it being an acceptable term to use for women wrestlers.
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Old 02-20-2019, 08:25 PM   #31
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Found it interesting that one of the basis for Paige's claims involved "puppies" being used in derogatory terms which was something that didn't really originate with fans but instead with WWE and Jerry "The King" Lawler.

Like no shit the fans are going to chant the phrase after being conditioned for years by WWE about it being an acceptable term to use for women wrestlers.
Going to have to go full SlickyTrickyDamon on you here and make a completely irrelevant correction -- but it was actually Road Dogg who originated "Puppies". Mr. Lawler simply took the ball and ran with it.

Sorry, I don't know why I felt so obligated to clarify that fact.
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I was at a ppv where Melina faced Mickie good match and the crowd was disinterested so yeah she has a point.

Y'all nerds don't like when shots get taken at y'all from the wrestlers and it gets y'all in your feelings.
I never even brought up that match, and I'm sure if I re-watched it, I might be inclined to agree.

What you ignore or fail to realize is that just as much as a wrestler (oh, I'm sorry, "superstar" ) has a right to express their opinions to the fans, the fans have a right to respond back with their own opinions. That's literally the whole reason professional wrestling exists. The term "male soap opera" gets thrown around a lot, but that's essentially what it is.
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Yes it is our fault that Vince hired the likes of Kelly Kelly, Jackie Gayda, Jerry Lawler's 19th underage ex-girlfriend and a whole host of talentless models and also ran blondes through a diva search

Cuz we totally didn't bitch when they did absolutely nothing with Gail Kim and tried their damnedest to push the likes of The Bella Twins to the forefront of the company.
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The occasional good match isn’t going to maintain the audiences attention when it’s surrounded by so much pissbreak nonsense. There’s always been at any given time, a few women who truly care, and want to excel as performers, but that doesn’t really matter if the company isn’t willing to get behind the division as a whole.

It is what it is. Things aren’t perfect now, but I feel the division is in a better place than it was during the beginning of the women’s revolution. They’re still trying too hard at times but I also feel they’re allowing some things to happen more naturally, which is how women got over in nxt to begin with.
The match quality would have more the likely been better if they were given more than three minutes, but like you said if the company doesnt care then why should the fans.
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You’re definitely right that some of those girls deserved more time. But 3 minutes in the ring is about all I can handle of someone like Christy Hemme. And there were a lot of them for a while.
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Very true. They also might have improved a bit if they were given more time. Lol yeah Christy wasn't good.
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Looking at the landscape today, it really shows the value of the performance center. Even the below average female performers are a lot better than some of the women the had in years past.
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Oh yes definitely. Finlay did a yeomans job teaching the females in the ring back in the day, but this system is much better.
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Yes it is our fault that Vince hired the likes of Kelly Kelly, Jackie Gayda, Jerry Lawler's 19th underage ex-girlfriend and a whole host of talentless models and also ran blondes through a diva search

Cuz we totally didn't bitch when they did absolutely nothing with Gail Kim and tried their damnedest to push the likes of The Bella Twins to the forefront of the company.
Pretty much can blame Moolah, Vince, Kevin Dunn, and John Laurinaitis for why women's wrestling was in such a bad shape for decades in WWE outside of brief moments.

Vince and Laurinaitis are the biggest offenders of that group. Vince never really wanted women's wrestling in WWE and Laurinaitis' basis for signings involved if he saw them in a magazine or considered them bar date worthy.
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I just heard an interview Vince gave in 85 pumping up the Womens division. Lol not even a year later it was dead on its ass and they had an awesome roster of female wrestlers in the mid 80s. Half of it was Moolah, half Vince.
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