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Old 09-07-2023, 01:43 PM   #14921
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Hang on Noid. I would disagree with you on the MJF comment. Guy is a stud. We will agree to disagree on it in the end, but I definitely would not refer to him as a mid carder.
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Old 09-07-2023, 01:47 PM   #14922
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Old 09-07-2023, 02:24 PM   #14923
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Hang on Noid. I would disagree with you on the MJF comment. Guy is a stud. We will agree to disagree on it in the end, but I definitely would not refer to him as a mid carder.
I just mean the role he is playing now. Their top title is an afterthought and MJF is doing mid-card comedy with Adam Cole, wrestling The Dark Order and the like.

I love Joe too, but heís mid-card too. Even has the TV Title.
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Old 09-07-2023, 02:28 PM   #14924
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When explained like that, I can get behind the idea you are promoting. At the end of the day, he should be in top tier feuds. I love the Adam Cole pairing but they should have pulled the trigger on someone turning heel at All In or All Out, not extending it another month and playing the game of "who is going to turn on who?"
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Old 09-07-2023, 02:34 PM   #14925
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MJF and Samoa Joe should be good quality — it’s just that they’ve had their hand forced to do it. And they’ve booked themselves into a corner with all this MJF/Adam Cole stuff. It’s the most interesting Cole has arguably ever been, so people don’t want it to end, which stretches out the silliness of it all.
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Old 09-09-2023, 11:35 PM   #14926
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Amazon lets you buy a few older episodes of Dynamite for $2.99. Watching the very first episode and the pacing was way better than it is today, which makes no logical sense, except I remembered that was before Tiny took full control.
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Old 09-09-2023, 11:37 PM   #14927
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I knew Dynamite wasn’t for me the moment Sammy Guevara came out with that ridiculous panda head. It felt like a slog off the bat.
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Old 09-09-2023, 11:47 PM   #14928
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Not surprised weíre getting Danielson vs. ZSJ at WrestleDream. Itís in Seattle, Danielson will get to roll around with whoever he wants. ZSJ was one of only a few major New Japan names not booked in Japan that date. The other ones who jump out are Will Ospreay and KENTA, who you just know will hit a GTS to try and stick it to Punk. Wouldnít surprise me if thereís a tag between Adam Page & The Bucks and KENTA, Jay White & Juice Robinson.

Has ZSJ gotten any better since 2016? I havenít seen too much of his recent work.
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Old 09-12-2023, 10:50 PM   #14929
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Wow. This is just terrible. Wrestling fans always striving for the next level of cringe.
I missed all of this... please tell me this chanting was a reference to Big E and not something else?
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Old 09-13-2023, 02:47 AM   #14930
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How many times has Danielson turned in AEW? I’m counting 4. He came in as a face, but then turned heel. Then they formed the BCC and he turned face to feud with Jericho’s group. Then he turned heel to feud with The Elite. Now he’s a face again. I’m probably missing 5 or 6 things.
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Old 09-13-2023, 07:10 AM   #14931
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How many times has Danielson turned in AEW? Iím counting 4. He came in as a face, but then turned heel. Then they formed the BCC and he turned face to feud with Jerichoís group. Then he turned heel to feud with The Elite. Now heís a face again. Iím probably missing 5 or 6 things.
In his defense though, Khan has not figured out a way to use Big Show, who would have turned at least 15-20 times since his debut. So if Big Show was turning every week, I am sure that we wouldn't even notice how many times Danielson has turned
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Old 09-13-2023, 12:45 PM   #14932
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Big Show is who people usually think of when it comes to diluting things with turns. Big Show did turn 4 times in his first year with the WWF. It’s taken Danielson almost 2 years to get to 4 turns. That’s something.
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Old 09-13-2023, 01:54 PM   #14933
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Big Show is who people usually think of when it comes to diluting things with turns. Big Show did turn 4 times in his first year with the WWF. Itís taken Danielson almost 2 years to get to 4 turns. Thatís something.
You put the idea into existence. So now Tiny will somehow get word of this and turn him 4 times in one show.
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Old 09-13-2023, 04:40 PM   #14934
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Old 09-14-2023, 02:57 AM   #14935
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The All In attendance was actually 72,265. Someone used the freedom of information act to get the number.
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Old 09-14-2023, 05:51 PM   #14936
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Vince going to show TK how to properly build up some female talent it seems....
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Old 09-15-2023, 05:44 PM   #14937
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Andrew Zarian seems pretty damn sure that AEW is going to announce a 12 per year PPV structure with HBO Max soon. I’ve always been skeptical of AEW having the weight to be worthy of a streaming platform, but I guess we are in the race for content. wXw has better exposure than AEW in Australia because streaming is after things.

This might also compensate for the money they might miss out on if WBD passes on upping their rights fees with Collision dead in the water.
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Old 09-16-2023, 10:14 AM   #14938
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In response to AEW’s abysmal ticket sales lately, Dave actually wrote “That’s just sad.”
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Old 09-16-2023, 10:31 AM   #14939
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The big issue we'll see AEW struggle with is as the novelty has run its course and AEW isnt doing "1st time ever" houses how (or can) they keep filling the seats. No one is immune to this issue. Its not a uniquely non-WWF issue. I suspect however that it will be a massive issue for this company.
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Agree with what you’re saying, but I think a lot of people saw that coming.

The new car smell wearing off was always something that was going to hurt them. At some point you actually have to get good.
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Old 09-16-2023, 05:33 PM   #14941
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Agree with what youíre saying, but I think a lot of people saw that coming.

The new car smell wearing off was always something that was going to hurt them. At some point you actually have to get good.
And the other issue is they are ROHing themselves into irrelevance.
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Old 09-16-2023, 07:33 PM   #14942
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I will never understand the tribalism that exists in wrestling. Can't we just sit back and enjoy what's going on for once? Wrestling is far more enjoyable now than it was in the late '00s or early '10s. Sometimes it just feels like miserable individuals like to convene and relish in their misery.
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Old 09-17-2023, 06:38 AM   #14946
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Gonna ride by Vastardakais house tonight at 3 am and annoyingly rev my engine and honk my horn a bunch.
Just a heads up: I live on the unfashionable end of the County.
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Old 09-18-2023, 09:44 AM   #14947
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Agree with what youíre saying, but I think a lot of people saw that coming.
I dont see them on the record i see them saying it was obvious after the fact.

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The new car smell wearing off was always something that was going to hurt them. At some point you actually have to get good.
Yes but it isnt a uniquely them problem either. Its fairly universal...except for TNA who ran the same building for a decade and packed it every other week.
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Old 09-18-2023, 12:33 PM   #14948
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I’ve been talking about the novelty running off AEW since basically the start. This affecting their attendance definitely came up around the Bridgeport shows and them running Chicago into the ground. Love ya man, but that point of convo is old news.

It’s not a problem unique to AEW, but it has definitely been staring them in the face for a long time and they’ve done nothing about it. They think they’re cooking with gas.
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Old 09-18-2023, 12:56 PM   #14949
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That too was fairly Universal
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That too was fairly Universal
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Iíve been talking about the novelty running off AEW since basically the start. This affecting their attendance definitely came up around the Bridgeport shows and them running Chicago into the ground. Love ya man, but that point of convo is old news.

Itís not a problem unique to AEW, but it has definitely been staring them in the face for a long time and theyíve done nothing about it. They think theyíre cooking with gas.
course its its old news, i was talking about it in may
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People have been talking about it since the start of the company though. It’s not an incorrect point, just not prescient if it’s from as recently as May.
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He lives in Georgia, so it's probably already happening.
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Old 09-18-2023, 06:25 PM   #14954
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He lives in Georgia, so it's probably already happening.
lol I know, I live a couple hours away from him.
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And it was me doing it, as per my post.
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Old 09-19-2023, 02:04 PM   #14956
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The new car smell thing is absolutely a factor for why Grand Slam tickets are so low compared to even a year ago. The drop from 2021 to 2022 was expected IMO. Lots of factors at play in 2021 that were only gonna be a one-time thing. Tickets were cheap, you had the post-COVID boom and it was their first time in the building. But the drop from 2022 to 2023 seems considerably worse.

But the biggest thing is they absolutely overpriced the tickets this year, which was a big problem. It's not really a surprise that they moved like 1,500 seats in the last week and a half when they started offering buy one get one. Well shit, you were basically charging for two tickets to begin with.

Furthermore, while I think the card has some good stuff cooking, it feels like easily the worst of the 3 they've run and it's wedged between 3 PPVs in the span of 6 weeks. So it's nigh on impossible for the show to feel anywhere as important as it did even last year. And these are all things that will impact the gate next year unless they drop day 1 prices, the business is hot, or they move the event to a time where it could get more shine.
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Old 09-19-2023, 02:13 PM   #14957
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They'll easily surpass last year's Ashe gate based on ticket price alone, but there will also be much fewer asses in the seats. And even if this helps AEW's immediate bottom line, it's not going to be a great look for them when 8:30 PM rolls around and you inevitably get a ton of images floating online about this big stadium being not even half full.

There will definitely be fans there who will feel almost a subconscious shame about being there. Like you look around and see such a lousy turnout and think "damn, guess being here is really uncool" and then they don't go again. I don't think people should think this way if they're going out and doing what they enjoy, but shit like that absolutely happens especially for the people who are obsessed with social media, and it can impact a brand's perception.
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I'm looking forward to going tomorrow and I have no doubt I'll have fun. Unless my experience blows there's no reason I won't go again in 2024 unless the product totally loses me.

But I can say with complete certainty I'm never buying a day one ticket to this show again. I spent what I thought was a fair amount for a hot ticket and it ended up being not even close to a hot ticket. It is what it is, I wouldn't have spent that if I wasn't comfortable with it. But seeing people buy pretty much the same seat as me for way cheaper because they waited, yep. Not doing that again.

If somehow AEW is shit hot in AEW 2024 and I have to buy my way into the building for above face value, then that's a great situation for them. But I'm definitely gonna be waiting moving forward and I'm sure a lot of people in my situation are in the same boat.
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A lot of rumblings that Discovery Warner wants AEW on Max for 12 PPVs a year. Could be hearsay...
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A lot of rumblings that Discovery Warner wants AEW on Max for 12 PPVs a year. Could be hearsay...
They have been saying this since Tiny bought ROH, except WBD seems to want nothing to do with ROH. I cannot think of any other reason why AEW is not already on Max other than Tiny trying to shoehorn his ROH library into the deal.
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