01-02-2019, 09:57 AM | #41 |
Trickster Demon
Posts: 59,778
|
Someone on twitter pointed out anything could happen really, using the example that in 1982 if you told wrestling fans that only six years later the territories would be dead and there'd be one really popular wrestling organization instead no one would have believed it.
|
01-02-2019, 10:05 AM | #42 | |
Trickster Demon
Posts: 59,778
|
(sorry 4 triple post)
Per Rajah.com and Twitter user Rovert Quote:
|
|
01-02-2019, 10:06 AM | #43 |
Posts: 33
|
Not keen on JR being involved on camera, but otherwise, everything I've read is exciting.
|
01-02-2019, 01:16 PM | #44 |
king of sucks
Posts: 4,414
|
that would be funny if tbs got wrestling again, aol dumbasses selling wcw for so cheap, I hope they also make a 6:05 Saturday wrestling show to go with there Tuesday show.
|
01-02-2019, 01:33 PM | #45 | |
Let me talk to ya
Posts: 11,749
|
Quote:
|
|
01-02-2019, 02:37 PM | #46 |
Former TPWW Royalty
Posts: 66,601
|
Even though Ted Turner has no real interest in wrestling anymore, AEW landing there likely will cause WWE to react the most considering those networks past history with wrestling and how big of a symbolic move that would be (TNT).
|
01-02-2019, 03:44 PM | #47 |
I'm all there is
Posts: 31,809
|
exciting news for sure. I just don't know it's ever going to be the Monday Night War thing you guys are hoping for. The WWE isn't setting the tv world on fire right now. I think wrestling in general has run it's course on tv and will just have a very niche audience going forward. Really just like everything else.
I just hope it doesn't get stuck on some random channel on a horrible night and time slot. But then again is the majority of house holds even watching TV as it airs anymore? seems like binge watching is the way everyone wants to do it now. |
01-02-2019, 04:40 PM | #48 | |
1-0 TPWW Chess Master
Posts: 17,211
|
Quote:
|
|
01-02-2019, 05:05 PM | #49 |
TPWW Fire Pro Champ
Posts: 33,998
|
Turner networks eh?
That's a really good sign for TV. If they were going to look for something like AXS or beIN, that's some trouble. |
01-02-2019, 05:33 PM | #50 |
Let me talk to ya
Posts: 11,749
|
Could see it being on WGN seeing as they did All In's pre show.
|
01-02-2019, 05:47 PM | #51 |
king of sucks
Posts: 4,414
|
|
01-02-2019, 10:41 PM | #52 |
Posts: 61,105
|
Britt Baker has signed. She’s done a match or two in WWE.
|
01-02-2019, 10:45 PM | #53 |
Posts: 61,105
|
I did a huge specific type-up, but I lost it. Anyway, as it pertains to AJ Styles, they are obviously going to bend over backwards to try and keep him. We don’t know how happy he is or isn’t it how serious these AEW offers are going to be. With hundreds of millions being sunk in, we are in a post-needing Vince world. Not a post-Vince world, mind you; but you can potentially make millions without signing with WWE. That changes everything.
|
01-02-2019, 10:45 PM | #54 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
Posts: 38,371
|
Baker is Adam Cole's Baybay.
No way AJ leaves. He's been pushed very well and paid. WWE video game cover. No way AEW could match that. |
01-02-2019, 10:48 PM | #55 |
Posts: 61,105
|
With TV deals: I imagine AXS and WGN America have probably made offers. They can be used to leverage places like the CW Network, which can be used to leverage the end goal, which I imagine has always been TNT or TBS. They’ve got some reputable people involved, and TNT has MMA starting up on the network soon. I think there’s a chance they could get it.
|
01-02-2019, 10:52 PM | #56 | |
Posts: 61,105
|
Quote:
At some point that WWE salary is going to be capped. Khan is sinking millions into this. It would be a daring move on Styles’ part, but it’s not impossible. A majorly reduced schedule, artistic freedom and guaranteed millions. It’s not something to sneeze at and you’d take an offer from this group pretty seriously. |
|
01-02-2019, 10:55 PM | #57 |
Posts: 61,105
|
Like, if Chris Jericho, Jim Ross and Tony Khan sat opposite me and promised to pay me $5 million over 5 years, regardless of what happens with this promotion, I’d definitely consider going against Vince. Especially at 42 when I am already considering retirement.
|
01-02-2019, 10:57 PM | #58 |
Let me talk to ya
Posts: 11,749
|
Can't wait until this gets started and Noid hates it.
|
01-02-2019, 11:07 PM | #59 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
Posts: 38,371
|
I'm sure success and failure relies on who signs ELI DRAKE
|
01-02-2019, 11:32 PM | #60 |
Let me talk to ya
Posts: 11,749
|
Doesn't matter if its a success or not Noid won't like it. Especially if it's similar to BTE I feel. Eli Drake is locked up with Impact for now though so don't worry.
|
01-02-2019, 11:35 PM | #61 |
Posts: 61,105
|
|
01-02-2019, 11:36 PM | #62 |
Posts: 61,105
|
|
01-02-2019, 11:37 PM | #63 |
CodeBot Engaged...WOAAHH!
Posts: 9,673
|
I like how everybody keeps talking about creative freedom.
You honestly think all these guys are just gonna be able to do whatever they want? There are no details at this point, but the fact that they are selling AEW merch at prowrestlingtees suggest it is gonna be a new Indy promotion, not a new wrestling company. The more I think about it, the more it feels like isn't really gonna be some new big thing. It's one thing to put on a big show twice a year, btw are they going to truly draw people in week after week. Either they have to be very good at being very different than WWE, or they will run the same course as TNA with an older roster. You can't just throw a bunch of money into a wrestling company and assume it is going to be good and make money. WCW made an actual profit maybe 2 or 3 years only, and that was back when there were only maybe 60 cable channels. And ultimately throwing a bunch of money into gave a short term return, but then it ended up losing more then it ever had. AEW will be cool for a bit, then unless they really catch fire with a few things, it will just end up being to much to sustain, especially if they are giving multi million dollar guarantees to a roster full of top Indy guys. In the end, hopefully it will push WWE to work harder instead of just sitting on their ass knowing they are guaranteed to turn a huge profit every year for the next 5 years no matter what they do. |
01-02-2019, 11:51 PM | #64 |
Posts: 61,105
|
Creative freedom doesn’t mean do whatever you want. I think people are just talking about being able to talk like a normal human being or cut genuine promos.
Lol, the Khans could probably just buy ProWrestlingTees and use that as a starting base for their merchandise. The Bucks have that deal with Hot Topic, don’t they? This is all part of those ironing out things to set up your revenue streams. What are they going to be marketed as? Are they real wrestling making a comeback? Are they a new wave? Are going to use stars from the past or focus on guys <40? All this remains to be seen, and their platform and marketing is going to determine whether they can get a decent audience in. But the Khans could literally buy television if they wanted to. They don’t want to do that, and they won’t need to, but they could. I don’t think people really appreciate just how much money might actually be going into this, and how self-sustaining this could be. |
01-03-2019, 12:20 AM | #65 |
Posts: 61,105
|
Like, this isn't just a few million to start up a wrestling company, buy a wrestling ring, lock a few people under contract and then hope it somehow gets over and profits. If the rumors of $100 million are true, then that is going to be enough stimulation to not only pay talent, but cover a lot of overhead without even factoring in television rights, ticket prices and merchandising. Let's say no one watches, but they still get a one-year deal for $65 million. That more than covers what WWE's production costs would be for a year (I saw something that your average Raw costs $885,000 to produce). Their overhead is not going to be that high. But assuming it was, that still leaves them with almost $20 million to pay talent, which is only $365,000 a week, but says nothing about the money Khan is going to sink into it and doesn't account for any other revenue streams or licencing deals.
If they hypothetically made AJ Styles an offer of $2 million a year, that's about $38,500 a year. Let's say they just round it up to $2.08 million a year and call it $40,000. That's over 9 AJ Styleses they can afford. But let's just say we get a roster of 30 people -- you can get $12,000 a week, on average, to talent, which means the average pay could be about $624,000 per year quite comfortably, which is really meaty without being insane. Shave that down to $500,000 and you've got more than enough money left over to make AJ Styles that offer. That's of course grossly oversimplified, but these guys can pay to play. $100 million, if that is the right figure, is an insane amount of money -- and there's potentially more where that came from, and revenue streams I haven't even mentioned. YouTube is potentially a big one. Action figures and other licencing deals to get the AEW brand into shopping centers. WWE have led the way with reality shows too. It's possible that Brandi Rhodes could spin-off into her own cooking show or whatever. Doesn't she do something like that? If they end up getting into bed with Turner, would it be so surreal to see Tuesday Night Dynamite on TNT, Cooking with Brandi and something zany with Cody and The Bucks on Adult Swim? That's all going to help people going to their shows, which is going to hopefully allow them to sustain themselves even more. |
01-03-2019, 12:28 AM | #66 |
Quality Meme Producer
Posts: 19,371
|
|
01-03-2019, 12:35 AM | #67 |
king of sucks
Posts: 4,414
|
|
01-03-2019, 12:41 AM | #68 | |
Wrestling Marks Rejoice!
Posts: 10,146
|
Quote:
|
|
01-03-2019, 12:44 AM | #69 |
Posts: 61,105
|
They probably would reign in some of the shit that makes me absolutely despise him. Things might "click" there. But I still wouldn't watch him because he offends me so much for looking like the pervy uncle you have that works as a stripper but ends up needing to lick the cream off himself because women generally find him way too depressing.
|
01-03-2019, 12:44 AM | #70 |
Wrestling Marks Rejoice!
Posts: 10,146
|
WWE's reaction would be to release another season of Southpaw Regional Wrestling.
|
01-03-2019, 12:51 AM | #71 |
Posts: 61,105
|
I think I touched on this earlier, but it may have been in my giant post that I lost before posting: Landing TNT is not only a huge thing because of how much exposure Turner's networks have, but it would also have that panache of being a return to the specific platform. There's potential nostalgia in that, and it could really help them.
People are cutting cable, yeah? But cable wants to stay in the game, at least for the foreseeable future. There are moves within these conglomerates to move towards digital and on-demand services, but if the idea is to make cable a thing that people keep and still have a use for and won't cut just yet, then having something like wrestling is really good: * A lot of the people who watch are over 50, so they're more likely to have cable in the first place. * There is nostalgia for those times. Wrestling coming back to TNT and being that thing where people have a few beers and some pizza on a weeknight as they watch people beat each other up might have some sort of appeal that goes beyond what the actual brand does if it were to appear on even another reputable network. It might actually be able to mine something subterranean in people that makes them go "Hey, remember when we used to watch wrestling?" "Yeah, lol." "Well there's a new wrestling that isn't like that shitty WWF stuff." "Fuck yeah, man. Let's hang out and watch it." Like not in massive numbers or anything, but I think it's a good fit. |
01-03-2019, 12:52 AM | #72 |
Hey Mister!
Posts: 54,947
|
Good. Love that shit.
|
01-03-2019, 02:35 AM | #73 |
Let me talk to ya
Posts: 11,749
|
I'm not trying to sullly the thread. I'll probably support the promotion more than you. I just know you'll get all your fantasies in your head and then be disappointed when something else happens. If it's anything like BTE you'll hate it for sure.
|
01-03-2019, 02:45 AM | #74 |
Posts: 61,105
|
Shut up, Simple. Stick to TNA and animal porn.
|
01-03-2019, 07:19 AM | #75 |
Hellraiser Extraordinaire
Posts: 670
|
If this does indeed become reality, what's the chance that Khan would maybe talk to Tony Schiavone about doing play-by-play?
That wouldn't shock me that much to hear. =P |
01-03-2019, 08:53 AM | #76 |
Trickster Demon
Posts: 59,778
|
— Ryan Satin (@ryansatin) January 3, 2019 |
01-03-2019, 10:14 AM | #77 |
Resident drug enabler
Posts: 45,473
|
|
01-03-2019, 12:05 PM | #78 |
Let me talk to ya
Posts: 11,749
|
|
01-03-2019, 12:23 PM | #79 |
Let me talk to ya
Posts: 11,749
|
You could call it a scetch comedy show but its not always comedy and they use it to push storylines and big announcements like this. If Cody and the Bucks are booking the show its not to much of a stretch to think their show would be in the same light as BTE only on a bigger scale with wrestling involved.
|
01-03-2019, 12:35 PM | #80 |
king of sucks
Posts: 4,414
|
what would goldberg do for them would he be management storywise
|