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Old 09-02-2023, 10:49 PM   #201
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He definitely doesnt deserve violence but he is most definitely an idiot if he thought prowrestling didnt require a spine. You cant keep a locker room of cockstrong guys in check on hugs alone.
Nobody in their right mind is going to defend TK's decisions. His incompetence is on full display for the entire world to see.
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Old 09-03-2023, 12:02 AM   #204
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I think TK owes The Elite a big apology.

I love how The Elite literally stayed the fuck out and away from CM Punk while allowing Punk to just go find some other persons/reasons to go full OceanGate submarine implosion on.

It is bittersweet though because I do enjoy CM Punk's in-ring work and psychology so the whole thing not working out sucks for the fans.

I'm no head doctor and maybe AEW just was not the right place for Punk but it is kind of worrisome that Punk cannot seem to hold it together and keep things in perspective AND instead of being able to keep perspective of 80K fans salivating for his match, he just looses his shit and flies off the handle.
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I get it man, I dont think I could make it a week working for this spaz manchild without wanting to quit.
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I think TK owes The Elite a big apology.

I love how The Elite literally stayed the fuck out and away from CM Punk while allowing Punk to just go find some other persons/reasons to go full OceanGate submarine implosion on.

It is bittersweet though because I do enjoy CM Punk's in-ring work and psychology so the whole thing not working out sucks for the fans.

I'm no head doctor and maybe AEW just was not the right place for Punk but it is kind of worrisome that Punk cannot seem to hold it together and keep things in perspective AND instead of being able to keep perspective of 80K fans salivating for his match, he just looses his shit and flies off the handle.
Lol fuck off.
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Lol, Tony Khan trying to babyface himself in Chicago by pretending he gives them pro-wrestling.
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Just watched the whole video. Jeez, what’s up with that guy? I’m not trying to make fun of the neurologically atypical, but he’s holding his eyes shut. Beyond being awkward and a bit of a knob, he hasn’t been that obviously…is impaired the right word? Is he fucked on something?
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Just watched the whole video. Jeez, what’s up with that guy? I’m not trying to make fun of the neurologically atypical, but he’s holding his eyes shut. Beyond being awkward and a bit of a knob, he hasn’t been that obviously…is impaired the right word? Is he fucked on something?
he definitely has something.
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That video is the saddest thing I have seen in professional wrestling in the past 10 years easily.

Who in their right fucking mind thought that it would be a good idea for him to do that? On top of that, if he had simply come out and said "I terminated CM Punk because it was the right thing to do after he had been given so many chances and he had burned all of the important bridges"...EVERYONE WOULD HAVE AGREED.

But instead he made it all about himself and his safety. Him adding in the wrestlers and the production crew was such bullshit. It was all about him not feeling safe. He's a huge pussy.

And I guarantee you that independent council of people that determined this have common names like Kenny, Matt, and Nick.
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Something’s being exasperated. I can honestly see the guy having a nervous breakdown. He looks like he is struggling to function.
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That video is the saddest thing I have seen in professional wrestling in the past 10 years easily.

Who in their right fucking mind thought that it would be a good idea for him to do that? On top of that, if he had simply come out and said "I terminated CM Punk because it was the right thing to do after he had been given so many chances and he had burned all of the important bridges"...EVERYONE WOULD HAVE AGREED.

But instead he made it all about himself and his safety. Him adding in the wrestlers and the production crew was such bullshit. It was all about him not feeling safe. He's a huge pussy.

And I guarantee you that independent council of people that determined this have common names like Kenny, Matt, and Nick.
He thinks he’s getting ahead of something like anyone gives a fuck how threatened the bullies backstage feel. No one wants to have their content fucked with. Especially because it’s pretty indisputable that this has to be, AT LEAST IN PART, the fault of the environment they’ve fucking cultured. There’s no sympathy for these fuckwads. Nor is there any “justice” perceived out of this decision.

Why isn’t Jungle Boy fired? This isn’t his first brush with bullshit. Sammy Guevara? Swerve Strickland and Ricky Starks got into a fight.

People smell the bullshit on this one. And even if they don’t, they don’t give a fuck if CM Punk beats up the entire locker room for being dunderheads. He’s the biggest and best act they’ve got right now.
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Well, was. You get my point.

Watch him go to the WWE and there be no issues. Can’t wait for CM Punk vs. Dominik Mysterio. AJ Lee’s birthday’s in March just in time for Dom to sing for WrestleMania.
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Sammy got into a fight with Andrade and Eddie Kingston. Sammy said he wanted to rape Sasha Banks in one podcast, and in a different podcast wanted to rape I think it was Miley Cyrus. He also went to Impact and refused to do anything and got told to leave. He did invite Tiny Khan to his wedding though, so he is probably ok forever as one of Tiny's loyal toys.
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I actually thought it was really great he did that. Yeah, it was awkward as fuck but it was real.

There is no way he would terminate CM Punk unless there was undisputed legit evidence and reason to do it.

The fact that he had the guts to go out there and face the Chicago crowd to explain it because he actually cares, shows me something.
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I'm going to have to re-think watching AEW post-Punk


Big fan of MJF, Ricky Starks, The Acclaimed and others...but this is a major L
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Omega, Hangman, The Bucks, Moxley, Jericho are so boring and they will likely eat up Collision now too
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Ricky Starks caught the break of all breaks. He got to avoid having to keep working with Punk! As a bonus he traded up to a PPV match with Bryan Danielson, that is a win all around!
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So... remember when Dana White and Tito Ortiz hated each other? They were even going to have a boxing match after he re-signed him and that was a contract stipulation

Also. Remember recently when Colby Convington threatened to slap Dana if he tried to put the belt on him? Dana was asked about that at a press conference and Dana's response "we’ll see about that. Good luck with that. He’s a big-mouth fucking idiot".

That's how it's done. Given Tony is a fan of Dana surprised he didn't square up when Punk threatened his life and the lives of all his employees.
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Hey on the brightside Punk finally successfully intimidated someone. This a big milestone for him
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I wonder if we get a Goldberg debut at All out now. I still cant for the life of me think who he could work with in AEW though.
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CM Punk is 100% a little bitch who can’t handle anyone thinking he’s not the greatest of all time.

But AEW definitely needs to fix their management problem. I oversee 300+ staff (so about the size of AEW men’s roster LOL) and in any workplace there will be disagreements and people hating each other, but you have means and processes to follow to ensure things don’t escalate. I get that it’s going to be much worse in a steroid fuelled, testosterone high environment, but that’s why you spend the money he has to bring in people capable of dealing with it.
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I cannot support CM Punk in good faith despite being a fan in the past. While AEW is undoubtedly problematic, he only exacerbated the issue by his conduct over the past year. You cannot pretend to be the locker room leader when not everyone wants to follow you. It was the same case in WWE. I hope he works on his well-being and not work himself into a shoot in the future, brother.
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I actually thought it was really great he did that. Yeah, it was awkward as fuck but it was real.

There is no way he would terminate CM Punk unless there was undisputed legit evidence and reason to do it.

The fact that he had the guts to go out there and face the Chicago crowd to explain it because he actually cares, shows me something.
He's using magic words that his dad's lawyers told him are the grounds to fire CM Punk in case he sues them. That isn't guts. That's being a fucking fanny while pandering to dizzy prats like you who don't know any better because Tony needs to be constantly reassured that everyone likes him.

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Omega, Hangman, The Bucks, Moxley, Jericho are so boring and they will likely eat up Collision now too
That's if you're lucky. This might be Michael Nakazawa's best chance to get back out there with his baby oil gimmick.

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So... remember when Dana White and Tito Ortiz hated each other? They were even going to have a boxing match after he re-signed him and that was a contract stipulation

Also. Remember recently when Colby Convington threatened to slap Dana if he tried to put the belt on him? Dana was asked about that at a press conference and Dana's response "we’ll see about that. Good luck with that. He’s a big-mouth fucking idiot".

That's how it's done. Given Tony is a fan of Dana surprised he didn't square up when Punk threatened his life and the lives of all his employees.
Trying to imagine Vince or Dana saying they feared for their safety so they fired someone.

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I wonder if we get a Goldberg debut at All out now. I still cant for the life of me think who he could work with in AEW though.
Edge. Feel like there's a 75% chance Tony threw more money at him than he could say no to just so he could have him debut and get a reaction for one night.

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CM Punk is 100% a little bitch who can’t handle anyone thinking he’s not the greatest of all time.

But AEW definitely needs to fix their management problem. I oversee 300+ staff (so about the size of AEW men’s roster LOL) and in any workplace there will be disagreements and people hating each other, but you have means and processes to follow to ensure things don’t escalate. I get that it’s going to be much worse in a steroid fuelled, testosterone high environment, but that’s why you spend the money he has to bring in people capable of dealing with it.
This.

The other reason Tony keeps saying those magic words of "not feeling safe" are because fights (workplace violence) have happened at AEW and no one has gotten fired. There has been precedent set but apparently up until now, no one has ever felt unsafe. Now that this threshold has been crossed, there are grounds for termination. That's how he's going to deal with things going forward. He'll threaten to scream "I DONT FEEL SAFE!"
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Old 09-03-2023, 07:15 AM   #229
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Trying to imagine Vince or Dana saying they feared for their safety so they fired someone.
Self awareness > Bravado

Vince and Dana are genuinely horrible human beings and not shining examples of how one should conduct themselves or their business. People conveniently forget the amount of free range Vince afforded stars like Hogan, Michaels and Austin.

Despite TK's series of poor decisions, they pale in comparison to Vince's. Scheming Bret Hart out of the title in '97, aiding Snuka to cover up a crime (allegedly), leaving wrestlers behind in Saudi Arabia, hush money payments for sexual favors amongst many other.
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Vince is a man. Tony is a gimp.
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Woah woah woah. Vince sure. But Dana is the man. Best promoter in the world.
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Explain your pov, Gertie
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You know the scene in Step Brothers where Brennan and Dale get in a fight and Brennan screams "rape" and says he seriously thought Dale was gonna rape him because he had that look in his eyes.

Tony Khan is Brennan.
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More than anything I just hope the backstage drama can go the fuck away now.

At the same time, damn I hope the Wembley footage eventually leaks.

Would be kinda hilarious if it’s like 20x worse than any of the reports made it sound making TK’s comments actually not seem overdramatized.
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I mean I’d sure hope the footage is worse for Khan to willingly go out in front of the audience live and face the firing squad that was Chicago and say what he said.
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I suppose we'll get to see the footage one way or another if Punk decides to sue.
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I mean I’d sure hope the footage is worse for Khan to willingly go out in front of the audience live and face the firing squad that was Chicago and say what he said.
That takes cojones of steel. To put yourself out there in front of fans despite the expected reaction.
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I love Punk. I really do. But lunging at your boss (and by the sounds of it, physically threatening him in an ensuing tirade) is not the best way to keep your job.

By the way Dave "Totally Unbiased I Have No Horses In This Race" Meltzer tells it, it sounds like Punk wanted out and was trying to find ways to get fired. If there's a hint of truth to that, trying to fight Tony was one way to go about it.


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AEW handed Punk everything on a silver platter in the last run. Basically his own show where from all indications he had the authority to ban people from and mold to his own creative vision. And he couldn’t make it 3 months without throwing it away.

Whether or not you think Jack Perry deliberately goaded him on by making a comment during a pre-show match, Punk could’ve just shut the fuck up and ignored what was, at worst, petty bullshit and continued coasting his way to a very well-paid retirement run.

You don’t have to like AEW or Tony Khan but anyone taking the sympathy route for Punk to try to justify the hatred more is hilarious. Punk deserves no sympathy here. This was complete and total self-immolation.
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Allegedly. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a strategy to try and keep Punk from getting paid out/PR bullshit. The guy grew up a soccer fan. He’s taking the dive and trying to get a penalty.
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