01-30-2014, 02:43 PM | #241 |
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Whether you like HHH or not, he's the the top heel in the company right now, moreso than Orton. A match with him would be the culmination of the Authority angle, and would be a big deal.
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01-30-2014, 02:49 PM | #243 |
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I don't think that's his problem with it. He probably thinks HHH SHOULDN'T BE a top heel right now and it would be another case of a part timer (as an active wrestler) taking away from a young guy. But that is pure speculation on my part.
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01-30-2014, 03:16 PM | #244 |
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Or it could be, just MAYBE, that CM Punk actually understands and pays attention to storylines and the show and sees that Daniel Bryan has been feuding with the authority and not Punk so having HHH v Punk is a backhanded throw together of a match just like last year, and the year before.
You guys want to act as if he is supposed to always take bullets for the company even if they are the one shooting him. That time honored code nonsense is from a far different generation. The internet age Punk knows he can create his own stir and hold the cards. Furthermore, imagine for a second there was somewhere else that was legit competition, how much more do you think creative would be coming up with better ideas and direction? IMHO that's where Punk's head is If he walks off does he burn bridges, sure. But how many did the ultimate jackoff burn and now he's getting a bust in the HOF. He can always come back and work part time for rumbles and Mania and get in the main event that way |
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01-30-2014, 03:21 PM | #246 |
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I'll agree with Norman Smiley. He doesn't need them at this point either. I'm not the #1 CM Punk fan but I appreciate that he has a set of balls on him, and a brain in his head. He actually DOES care about the product and it seems to piss him off how bad the writing is, (which it really really is in every way)
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01-30-2014, 03:23 PM | #247 |
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HHH is well within his rights to think Punk unprofessional, he walked out on a contract after all. But once again, I SPECULATE that HHH is probably pretty offended the Punk doesn't really want to work with him, because the only thing bigger than Mr. "I AM THIS BUSINESS"'s nose, is his ego.
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01-30-2014, 03:25 PM | #248 |
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01-30-2014, 03:35 PM | #254 |
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And Punk was obviously aware of the direction, he was just not happy with it.
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01-30-2014, 03:37 PM | #255 |
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I am saying that Punk would have known for ages that he would be facing HHH given his storyline, so why wait till Monday to walk out? Assuming all this is true lol.
Also, it does not matter if HHH thinks he is incredible or not- the booking done so far will need a Punk/HHH match to really culminate the storyline. I am not saying the booking was good, but that's how I see it anyway. |
01-30-2014, 03:38 PM | #256 |
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I would go a step further to say Punk is trying to make a stand for DB. Trying to get a feel for the story without talking to Punk is difficult but fuck it if ryan clark can rattle off made up info without naming one single source so can I.
Punk is bitter/worn out/fed up of no progression. The 1 step forward 2 steps back thinking of who calling shots. It's not as much about not being in the title hunt because Punk is smart enough to know you don't need the title to be over or sell merch. But if you are a guy who has worked 50 minutes on Sunday night with no mention or fanfare from the announce team and here comes batista out of shaped and gassed for 10 minutes of work then your friend who has busted his ass all year is backseated STILL when its obvious the direction the crowd wants is DB , then why not say F it and bail his only direct quote was on twitter that read "the view never changes" |
01-30-2014, 03:39 PM | #257 |
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But we aren't talking about the same thing at all, you're making points about my posts that I'm not talking about. He chose Monday to walk out because he obviously reached a boiling point. the HHH storyline is ONE of the things he's not happy with. It's not like he was JUST informed of it and was like "THAT'S IT I'M OUT OF HERE"
It was just one of many things obviously pissing him off. Icing on the cake was Batista getting the title shot and not Daniel Bryan. (referencing VSG) |
01-30-2014, 03:42 PM | #258 |
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01-30-2014, 03:44 PM | #259 |
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Yeah, I think you're missing what Dale is getting at VSG. I think Hunter's ego has probably taken a massive hit by all this, if it is true that Punk didn't see having a match with him as high enough calibre.
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01-30-2014, 03:54 PM | #260 |
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All I am saying is that HHH being butt hurt is a huge assumption. If Punk wants to be in the title scene, good for him. But where I am coming from, Punk over HHH at Wrestlemania is a worthy main event.
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01-30-2014, 03:56 PM | #261 |
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Yeah, and nobody is arguing with you on that from a fan perspective.
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01-30-2014, 03:57 PM | #262 |
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But HHH being butt hurt, it's HHH FFS. like I said, if it is true, I think his ego would have taken a hit, especially with all the publicity coming from all this.
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01-30-2014, 03:57 PM | #263 |
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As I said, it was pure speculation. But let's get serious, it's not like it's grasping at straws. HHH THE GAME THE CEREBRAL ASSASSIN THE KING OF KINGS gracing Punk with a match is supposed to be a big deal, and Punk said "Nah, no thanks, I'm good".
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01-30-2014, 04:01 PM | #264 |
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I guess my issue with the assumption was not just that he got butt hurt, but that he is hiding behind the "Punk was unprofessional" excuse instead.
Anyway I am thinking too much into this, fuck HHH and fuck Punk. We will just see what happens. If this all was a massive work, then good for them. |
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01-30-2014, 04:06 PM | #267 |
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Yeah but I could see him fighting Vince a little extra hard tooth and nail because of the shot to his ego, just my view on things. Regardless of the fact that HHH IS THIS BUSINESS and knows it's just business, he's a human being like the rest of us, and has a big ego, and would let that get in the way of things, I think. Especially considering Vince wants to mend fences, and what Vince says, goes.
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01-30-2014, 04:12 PM | #269 |
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looking forward to james steele coming in here and busting out "facts" about how HHH is a god and put everyone he could over, and was a massive draw and the be all and end all of THIS BUSINESS and how CM Punk is and always was a bum.
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01-30-2014, 04:15 PM | #270 |
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Remember when HHH put Booker T over? First at WM, and then when he returned from injury that time at SummerSlam.
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01-30-2014, 04:15 PM | #271 |
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Punk flat out said "dave is my friend but now is not the time for him to be here, its Daniel Bryan's time"
same sentiment I think for HHH, I think if it made sense and added something to the whole scheme of it he would be a team player but I think Punk sees it more for what it is 2 years ago "hey punk we are going with Cena/Rock so we are gonna give you Jericho and they are going on last not you last year, hey same thing as last year but this time you get to have the undertaker this year, we found another guy to come back and be in the main event so what about you and HHH on 4th? |
01-30-2014, 04:15 PM | #272 |
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Sorry NormanSmiley, I'm going off topic here.
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01-30-2014, 04:16 PM | #273 |
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Oh and that time he gave Punk that HUGE main event rub when they feuded after Punk and Cena. I don't know why Punk wouldn't want to wrestle him after all HHH did for him in that match.
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01-30-2014, 04:17 PM | #275 |
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Yeah honestly I'm sure Punk has no problems with HHH friend wise, they're probably perfectly cordial, but the mark in me is loving this
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01-30-2014, 04:21 PM | #276 |
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agree Dale, for me the appeal to the story is Punk put himself in a position to say no thanks when his name can generate some buzz outside WWE and show how much the people in charge have their heads up their ass
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01-30-2014, 04:23 PM | #277 |
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If true, I don't think Punk magically decided Monday would be it. He's been more than vocal in the past about part time guys/retreads coming in and taking main event spots. We know having to see Rock main event 2 years in a row didn't make him happy, but it can be argued easily that Rock was a huge deal and was "best for business" as a draw. Batista is not, and never was. He was always second fiddle to Cena, and now he comes back, with one match, and gets auto penciled into the main event. I can completely understand how that would be the tipping point for Punk.
I also would understand that the idea of working with HHH is an underwhelming one. Outside of Mr. Steele, did anyone really enjoy his matches with Lesnar. The first two bored me to the point that I didn't bother with the third. His matches with Taker weren't anything special either, and are book ended by two classics with HBK and CM Punk. Not to mention, the last time I remember Punk and H having a match, during the summer of Punk, H won with a pedigree, 1-2-3, after a clusterfuck of run ins. Then ends the show crotch chopping the hottest name in the company to end the show. So yeah, Punk having little to no interest in a match with H is not surprising at all. I get that walking out is unprofessional, and H having his ego stepped on a bit is only natural, but he, Vince and WWE need Punk a lot more than Punk needs them. Replacing his merch sales, the live crowds that cheer him, and his ability to put on matches with just about anyone is not going to be easy, and there's no one currently on the roster in position to take his spot. |
01-30-2014, 04:31 PM | #278 |
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^^ well said sir. ALL excellent points
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01-30-2014, 04:32 PM | #279 |
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He really just reiterated what I already said
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01-30-2014, 04:44 PM | #280 |
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gold stars for you both
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