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Old 02-04-2008, 07:50 PM   #4641
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Although i hate how the commentators said 'world champions' its only american teams, duh!!!
in a few years you'll have the Toronto Bills.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:53 PM   #4642
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Still hardly 'world' though is it? English football is far more worldly than american football. And actually have a world cup, where it makes sense to call them world champions.
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:00 PM   #4643
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in a few years you'll have the Toronto Bills.
Never. if they move Buffalo, it will be somwhere else. Not enough money in Toronto to move to, but just enough to try to expand the Buffalo Region.
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:01 PM   #4644
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Well, go ahead and field another Football team to take on America and we can name a world champ.

I think it is fine. let them be World Champs, its a given we would win, we are the only ones that play it.
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:11 PM   #4645
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It makes about as much sense as calling the sport football in the first place, since kicking and punting is such a minor part of the game.

It's annoying, but I live with it.
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:21 PM   #4646
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Yeah y2ant i agree, theres only a couple of parts in the game where they fucking kick it. Someone suggest what else it should be called. us english should call it soccer, just to take the piss.
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:25 PM   #4647
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Splitting hairs really. I think the 'World Champion' moniker is justified since football isn't played anywhere else on the globe. The best talent in the world is in North America (primarily the United States.) Of the 120 or so division 1 college football teams, all the best talent makes its way to the NFL. The best of the best are in the NFL. I would wager anyone that anybody else in the world couldn't field a team to beat the NFL's best, given unlimited resources to do so.
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:34 PM   #4648
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I would wager anyone that anybody else in the world couldn't field a team to beat the NFL's best, given unlimited resources to do so.
And thats the point. Its only played in america, the definition of world champs to me means you've competed against other countries around the world. But thats just me being logical.
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:42 PM   #4649
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And thats the point. Its only played in america, the definition of world champs to me means you've competed against other countries around the world. But thats just me being logical.
You're raising a logical point, I agree. Until an international team is fielded and competes, then its open for contention. Thats just my take though. Thats why I think its more logical to call them Superbowl Champions, or World Series Champions, or NBA Champions or Stanley Cup Champions etc. Avoid the whole discussion altogether.
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:46 PM   #4650
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Yeah, thats what i would do to. Superbowl champs sounds right.
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:46 PM   #4651
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Not only did the Patriots lose, now there is no meaningful football until September......................god damn it
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:47 PM   #4652
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Draft man. April. Love the fucking draft. I'm especially more excited since we had some damn significant contributions from all our rookies minus 1, I believe. I think Jerry Reese is going to turn out to be a hell of a GM.
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:47 PM   #4653
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Time to pay more attention to the Celts.
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Can someone explain to me what happens in the draft/what the rules are?
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Time to pay more attention to the Celts.
If they can pull off a championship this would be a hell of a year. Mets got Santana too, so thats promising. Not into the NBA or the MLB as much as I am the NFL though.
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Time to pay more attention to the Celts.
Don't get me wrong, I've always loved the Celtics but I am much bigger fan of the Patriots. It will be sick if the Celtics are able to go all the way and win it all, but I would much rather have it be the Pats.
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:04 PM   #4658
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Can someone explain to me what happens in the draft/what the rules are?
Teams pick players coming out of college...order is determined by overall record for the most part
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:17 PM   #4659
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Ah yes..the draft. With the success that the pass rushing Giants had, do you think some teams will make it a priority for those pass rushers? I know there's a couple 1st rounders. I want Desean Jackson and Mendenhall to the Cowboys with those 2 1st rounders.
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Yeah every team is gonna have some sort of premier pass rusher pretty soon...just like almost every team is now using a 2 back system, while a few years ago it was all about one premier rusher.
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Don't get me wrong, I've always loved the Celtics but I am much bigger fan of the Patriots. It will be sick if the Celtics are able to go all the way and win it all, but I would much rather have it be the Pats.
Yeah, I understand. I think I'd rather have a Rams superbowl than a Lakers championship. Actually I dunno. Tough call.
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Old 02-04-2008, 10:41 PM   #4662
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Ok ESPN is unwatchable now.... seriously Ive never seen so many grown men salivate to have one mans nuts in their mouth so bad. Like every single segment might as well be eli cumming on anyone of the analysts face and taking it in the ass simultaniously from strahan and tyree. I mean my god it is rediculous. Now Im no Pats fan (bills fan ) but I got behind them because I figured that if they didnt win the superbowl then this whole season was a huge waste of my time. There are so many other teams Id rather see in there winning it, but they ran the table... I figured I might as well enjoy saying I saw a team go undefeated. FUCK!!! FUCK YOU PATS!!! And in case you were all wondering yes I hate the giants. The only thing worse than the giants winning would be if the cowboys made it and won. I might take a sledge to my TV
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Yo one thing I am kinda pissed off and confused about is how the Patriots challenged and won that 12 men on the field call. I didn't think you were allowed to challenge penalties at all. It's not like you can go back and challenge that there was holding on a play
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Yeah, I understand. I think I'd rather have a Rams superbowl than a Lakers championship. Actually I dunno. Tough call.
I think the reason I can't get into other pro sports leagues as much as I get into the NFL is because the championship is decided with 1 game. There are pros and cons to both formats (1 game, 7 game format) but its all or nothing, win or go home with 1 game.
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Yo one thing I am kinda pissed off and confused about is how the Patriots challenged and won that 12 men on the field call. I didn't think you were allowed to challenge penalties at all. It's not like you can go back and challenge that there was holding on a play
You are allowed to challenge certain penalties, especially when it is something as cut and dry as that. Pass interference, holding etc are all judgment calls within the game.
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GOD MOTHERFUCKING DAMNIT!!!!! THATS ANOTHER REASON I WANTED THE PATS TO WIN
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Do not forget free agency. Not too many HUGE names but some guys will probably get cut. Asante Samuel, for one, is gonna be on the market. Maybe Moss too.
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I heard something about Stallworth being owed a big option or something so they may let him go.
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I think Moss will be back, Stallworth will probably have to restructure his contract or he'll be gone I think. Samuel I'm unsure on but if I had to guess I'm seeing some other team throwing him a bunch of money, which the Patriots won't match.
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I read that was happening DURING the game
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I read that was happening DURING the game
Even better, if it's true they all deserved to get STOMPED OUT, just like Strahan just said
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I think there's a better chance of stallworth being back, after seeing what Moss did this year and how he handeled himself someone will give him top dollar and it will be tough for someone his age to turn it down.

Stallworth will get good offers but could be cheaper to keep and leaves money for Samuel.
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