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Old 09-23-2021, 06:34 PM   #6081
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That’s literally what the press release says, dude. They’re making a big deal out of him being Indian. Got to love that critical reading the US school system teaches.
They made a big deal about him being the first player from India to be drafted by an NBA team. That’s not the same as “making a big deal about him being Indian”. He’s a groundbreaking pro athlete. But you saw “tall” and “Indian” and decided to jump on another desperate “AEW bad” gripe.

Critical reading. Lol
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Old 09-23-2021, 06:52 PM   #6082
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Great Khali was jacked though. Sounds like this skinny nerd is just a failed NBAer. He is their El Gigante.
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Old 09-23-2021, 06:54 PM   #6083
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Bit surprised Rampage is staying on TNT since the whole purpose of moving Dynamite was due to preemption issues with NBA and NHL games, especially during the playoffs.

Guess Rampage's late time start and having less preemption issues made TNT way more willing to digest that problem whenever it comes up.
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Old 09-24-2021, 09:37 AM   #6084
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Old 09-24-2021, 09:45 AM   #6085
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Are AEW Execs hi-fiving in the hallways??????
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Old 09-24-2021, 09:48 AM   #6086
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For real want to see a behind the scenes video of WWE or AEW employees high-fiving each other after someone comes up with a really dumb idea. This would be funnier if it was at WWE HQ, but I'm not picky. Suits celebrating mediocre shit would be hilarious.
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Old 09-24-2021, 10:02 AM   #6087
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Suits celebrating SUCH GOOD SHIT.
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Old 09-24-2021, 10:37 AM   #6088
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Old 09-24-2021, 11:01 AM   #6089
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I'm voting for "or something" being what's taken place.
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Old 09-24-2021, 12:27 PM   #6090
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STD signed in to rep me and let me know AEW is failing in the rep comment. Thank you Slicky lol.
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Old 09-24-2021, 12:45 PM   #6091
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Damn. STD said that?

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Old 09-24-2021, 01:06 PM   #6092
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Old 09-24-2021, 01:53 PM   #6093
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Old 09-25-2021, 08:20 PM   #6094
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I am so tired of these supposed journalists "moving the goalpost" as they say. So they lose the demo they have been crowing about forever, and suddenly its "Well we still won Men in that demo". If that is the important demo, why wait until now to bring it up?

Wrestling would be so much better without these turd reporters.
They’re trying to sell subscriptions, I guess. WWE = bad and Not WWE = good is the easiest way to milk money from marks. You can see through any of this bullshit, but you’ll have people like Smeat who regurgitate it as fact even if you can think past it in a second, and you even have people like #1-wwf-fan who will sea lion the shit out of this company.

In viewership they lost. In the alleged “key demo” (absolute bullshit pushed by the newsletters) they lost. The way they gather the information for Raw is false on its face. Anything to spin a story and make the “babyfaces” look good. And very few people have the integrity to admit it, and will insult the people who point it out.
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Old 09-25-2021, 08:26 PM   #6095
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STD signed in to rep me and let me know AEW is failing in the rep comment. Thank you Slicky lol.
Why would you even bring this up? Why would you check your rep? Insecure as shit.

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Criticism and opinions bad. Where was this logic when people were bashing the WWE for 20 fucking years? Goddamn it, this fanbase is sooooo insecure.

Take shots at WWE and it’s all gravy. Insult AEW? “Why would you do that, bro?” Fuck off. AEW sucks. It isn’t popular. It isn’t good. It’s funded by a billionaire who gets his blood money from dirty places just like Vince McMahon. And celebrating this shit as special holds everything back.
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Old 09-25-2021, 08:32 PM   #6096
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Slik told me SlickyTrickyDamon is shaving his head?
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Old 09-25-2021, 08:33 PM   #6097
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That’ll draw more than Matt Hardy vs. Orange Cassidy.
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Old 09-25-2021, 10:22 PM   #6098
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It seems like Noid has reverted back to trolling people for enjoying AEW. I thought he was making some progress, being a decent human being and just enjoying bits and parts.
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Old 09-25-2021, 11:17 PM   #6099
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You want good wrestling takes? TPWW says avoid the Noid…
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Old 09-25-2021, 11:45 PM   #6100
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He's not that bad. A little aggressive at times because wrestlers and promotions don't cater to his preferred style of wrestling. Seems frustrated...that's all.
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Old 09-26-2021, 12:13 AM   #6101
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He’s fucking annoying and all he does is bitch and moan about a product he claims not to watch but can’t stop talking about and insult others for either liking the product or discussing things read in the dirt sheets. Damn near every quote tweet of his falls into those categories. I’m surprised more people haven’t muted him at this point.
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Old 09-26-2021, 12:15 AM   #6102
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No. He’s being a complete dickhead about it. If he did that in person he would either get asked/told/forced to leave or punched out. It is the internet though, so he can really do whatever he wants without repercussion.. as long as he has thick skin. There is a way to debate/discuss. This is being a cocksucker just for the sake of it.
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Old 09-26-2021, 12:20 AM   #6103
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I’m a football fan. I don’t like the CFL. I’m not going to a big fans CFL party and talking about how shit it is. Not the most astute example but you get what I mean.
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Old 09-26-2021, 12:22 AM   #6104
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Plus he’s just condescending in general. Who the fuck wants to hang around or discuss anything with that guy?
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Old 09-26-2021, 12:23 AM   #6105
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i feel as though i am on the verge of finally accepting, through utter shame and disgust with my own tastes as revealed to me by this diaper boy's sanctimonious rasslin rants, that i have been the idiot all along.
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Old 09-26-2021, 12:24 AM   #6106
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No. He’s being a complete dickhead about it. If he did that in person he would either get asked/told/forced to leave or punched out. It is the internet though, so he can really do whatever he wants without repercussion.. as long as he has thick skin. There is a way to debate/discuss. This is being a cocksucker just for the sake of it.
And this is good debate? I present my cases and no one can do anything but insult *me*. I do take jabs when people are credulous or illogical, but no one has a fucking answer for my takes. They just call me names and say I’m trying to ruin their fun.

Discussing wrestling is fun for me. More fun than actually watching the current shit. I’m wrestling obsessed, but even that has worn thin and I’m actually upset by it. It’s closure I never wanted to reach.

Where is this vitriol for people who don’t like WWE? It stopped existing post 2016 when I said Alexa Bliss was the shits and people attacked me for that. Welly, welly, welly.

People are allowed to not think what you think. People can enjoy AEW if they want. I point out why it is bad and not helping wrestling in the way people say it is. Then I get attacked and am told that I cannot discuss/debate while no one has an argument for what I say. Ever. Ironically, you folk are the ones that try to shut down my good time. Only you can’t do it with anything other than ad hominem.

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Old 09-26-2021, 04:08 AM   #6108
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Noid is just misunderstood. He means well.
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Old 09-26-2021, 06:14 AM   #6109
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Man Noid's been doing the same shit for years now. Hope life gets better for you to the point where you might be able to enjoy something.
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Don't get why anyone engages with noid about AEW at this point. He's just going to be a giant bitch about it. He lost the ability to have real discussions years ago.
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Don't get why anyone engages with noid about AEW at this point. He's just going to be a giant bitch about it. He lost the ability to have real discussions years ago.
All he is good for now is a little entertainment if you need to blow off some steam.
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TPWW is way better with Noid on ignore. He used to be a good poster but it’s gotta be at least 5 or 6 years in the rear view mirror at this point. Now all he does is get mad that people like something he doesn’t like and try to ruin everyone’s fun. Sad.
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Old 09-26-2021, 10:53 AM   #6113
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And this is good debate? I present my cases and no one can do anything but insult *me*. I do take jabs when people are credulous or illogical, but no one has a fucking answer for my takes. They just call me names and say I’m trying to ruin their fun.

Discussing wrestling is fun for me. More fun than actually watching the current shit. I’m wrestling obsessed, but even that has worn thin and I’m actually upset by it. It’s closure I never wanted to reach.

Where is this vitriol for people who don’t like WWE? It stopped existing post 2016 when I said Alexa Bliss was the shits and people attacked me for that. Welly, welly, welly.

People are allowed to not think what you think. People can enjoy AEW if they want. I point out why it is bad and not helping wrestling in the way people say it is. Then I get attacked and am told that I cannot discuss/debate while no one has an argument for what I say. Ever. Ironically, you folk are the ones that try to shut down my good time. Only you can’t do it with anything other than ad hominem.
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Old 09-26-2021, 11:03 AM   #6114
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Lol at people regurgitating the same bullshit talking points. I’m not the one that cannot have a discussion. Don’t you think it might be the people just waving away anything I say without actually responding to it are the ones with the difficulty there? Hmm.

The problem is that some people can’t handle being challenged. Everyone says they can and that they do. But when they actually have the reasoning behind their thinking questioned, they get defensive and insecure. How many posts in a row are just people going “Noid’s just an asshole. He won’t let people enjoy things”?

How about explaining *why* you enjoy them? Or why you think they are good? And how many times do I have to explicitly state, point blank: People enjoying AEW is not the issue. People being unable to make arguments as to why they think it is good is. Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining.

Nope. Much easier to say that Noid just doesn’t like the rain. Nah, I don’t like bathing in urine. But there are literally about three people left on TPWW who are smart enough to understand that. And yeah, that might sound insulting, but it’s not like it’s not fucking true, lol.

And again: Where is all this “just let people enjoy it” defense of the WWE? Why does it make any sense to get all indignant at people saying “AEW sucks” if the narrative in the same place is going to be “WWE sucks?” I’m not saying WWE doesn’t suck. But where is the consideration there? It doesn’t exist. Because it’s only convenient for the cult to use it when it suits them.
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I have fun watching it, most of it. I try not to think too hard beyond that, you know, being a yank with no critical thinking skills and what not.



Same with WWE when I did watch it. I've been on the WWE sucks wagon for about 6-7 years now. I cannot pinpoint the exact catalyst, I just know I found myself not giving a shit anymore, and bored by what was on the TV.



AEW seems entertaining right now, but isn't perfect. There it is, nothing more
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Take, for example, my argument that the Nielsen ratings are not worth what people on AEW’s dick make them out to be. That they’re compromised of archaic data measuring an increasing archaic medium. Why would advertisers go out of their way to appeal to 200k 49 year old white men through cable television? What about my suggestion that advertisers are interested in other stakeholders now, including women, LGBT+ and POC. That the audience for AEW might be fiercely loyal, but is there any evidence that it’s much deeper than the people who watch weekly, or that their audience is willing to spend money on other things, or be consumers advertisers would want engaging with their products?

Has ANYBODY tried to engage with that point...ever? You maybe have a 14 year old boy level response from someone “No, you’re wrong. You don’t understand TV like *I* do, because here is my appeal to authority,” but you don’t get anyone disputing the actual logic of my thinking there. Because they can’t. Because I. Am. Fucking. Right.

That’s why AEW got booted off TNT for a sport that generates a way lower “key demo” than them. Because AEW might get higher numbers, but it has less appeal than hockey, and it’s just possible that hockey attracts more unique viewers over a season than the 1.1 million diehards that watch AEW every week.

Yep, I am the one that cannot have a discussion.
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Old 09-26-2021, 11:33 AM   #6117
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I have fun watching it, most of it. I try not to think too hard beyond that, you know, being a yank with no critical thinking skills and what not.



Same with WWE when I did watch it. I've been on the WWE sucks wagon for about 6-7 years now. I cannot pinpoint the exact catalyst, I just know I found myself not giving a shit anymore, and bored by what was on the TV.



AEW seems entertaining right now, but isn't perfect. There it is, nothing more
That’s a fair enough subjective view to have. Entirely your prerogative. But do you see what I mean when you’re allowed to say WWE sucks, but not liking AEW is trying to stop people from enjoying things. It’s just that one’s en vogue to shit on, the other isn’t.

My argument has always been that for the majority of wrestling fans who don’t want to engage with wrestling beyond the immediate sense of it (the “casual fan”), AEW does way too much goofy, in the weeds, deep-cut, ironic bullshit that is going to disengage that viewer, or turn off people potentially attracted to the star power they obtain when they get a CM Punk or Bryan Danielson.

The average fan doesn’t want to see something like Orange Cassidy that slaps in the face that they’re engaging with artless fiction, because they are not obsessed on a molecular level with all things pro-wrestling. Being a glutton for punishment isn’t in their DNA like it is people who can actually get through a three hour Raw.

My big gripe with AEW is that it isn’t a wrestling show. It’s a parody show aimed at the most hardcore fan of the wrestling genre. That isn’t for everyone, it isn’t tailor-made for the successes of something that is closer to what has historically worked in wrestling. This isn’t a show aimed at people who liked Raw in 1997 or 1998. It’s a show aimed at people who actively don’t like Raw now.

1.1 million people.
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That could be what it is. But it would be nice to have a true alternative to the WWE that doesn’t rely on the narrative that they’re this stale oppressor as the source material for all its drama. It would be great if there was something at a certain level in wrestling, with a certain accessibility and prestige, that presented pro-wrestling in a way that doesn’t have to be insecure with that being what it is. It would be nice to have a promotion that can take these stars from Vince and really challenge him to adapt the way he presents his product, instead of validating his decisions and billions of dollars.

It would also be nice if the narrative surrounding the promotion we do have wasn’t one of “they’re so fucking great, wow so great” when there are common sense reasons and actual evidence that they’re not. And if they want to be a niche product that appeals to 1.1 million people when it is unopposed by any other wrestling (“appeals” might be too strong a word there), then fine. But can we stop this forced narrative of “they’re beating Raw they’re so good!” when you have to squint and sometimes compare separate weeks, looking at very specific subsets of the audience to make that case?

If AEW wanted to be its own style of sports entertainment? Ugh, fine. It’s the last thing I needed, but whatever. But again, it’s the pissing on my leg. If they were fine being that, we wouldn’t have these weekly parties over a largely arbitrary and trivial number that comes in.
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Old 09-26-2021, 11:45 AM   #6119
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It’s not like you don’t have some good points. It’s just exhausting to debate with you. Plus you hate 99% of what they do so why bother? I like most/a lot of what they do. All wrestling companies did some dumb shit over the years. Even when WWF and WCW were red hot, so many bad decisions. I just like to enjoy it and let it play out as it may. Just like I did back then. Sure I can recognize the crap and even call them out for it… but you just shit on it as a whole. You also do it like an asshole. You can’t blame anybody for feeling the way they do towards you but yourself.
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And the ratings thing is just fun! It’s trivial. Who cares? It brings some people back to the Monday Night Wars. It isn’t THAT serious. You are being a rain cloud. Nobody likes a rain cloud.
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