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05-01-2019, 10:16 AM | #122 |
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Feel like Noid is deliberately not saying he likes me to hurt my feelings.
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05-01-2019, 04:37 PM | #124 |
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Noid displaying that versatile sense of humor he's so well-known for.
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05-01-2019, 04:39 PM | #125 |
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And I’m getting weird acts way more clever than they are vibes from you, which is annoying. You’re also trying to act like a top dog without any merit behind it. So nah, I’m not sold on you. If you have useful stuff to add to a discussion, cool, since that’s what I come here for. Don’t really care if I like you or not, lol. But since you seem so hung up on it, I’ll give you my opinion.
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05-02-2019, 02:17 PM | #126 |
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05-02-2019, 05:16 PM | #127 |
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They usually operate on your chin and forehead, bopping off them repeatedly propelled by a squatting motion.
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05-02-2019, 06:59 PM | #128 |
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Yeah but in fairness I was trying to suck my own dick.
You always leave that part out. |
05-02-2019, 11:35 PM | #129 |
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Vince adding time to independent contractors contracts for injuries sustained in the workplace or freezing contracts for wrestlers who want to resign for years is more than likely going to backfire if anyone bothers to challenge it in court.
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05-03-2019, 08:58 AM | #130 | |
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I recall a former wwe wrestler (possibly raven, can't remember exactly) saying that if you were truly an independent contractor then technically you could hire someone else to do the match\appearances for you. It's always just been a scam for wwe to not pay pensions, health benefits etc, yet they're allowed to get away with it. Supposedly it would require someone currently under contract to take them to court over it, when it was challenged before the wrestlers concerned were out of wwe over 5 years, and there was some time constraint applied to how soon after it could be brought up in court and they were beyond that limit. |
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05-03-2019, 10:02 AM | #131 |
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I would have loved it if Raven had hired a decent wrestler in his place.
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05-03-2019, 10:24 AM | #132 |
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Raven had a good run from ECW thru 1998/Beverly Hills Raven angle.
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05-03-2019, 10:26 AM | #133 |
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05-03-2019, 12:40 PM | #136 | |
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Can't recall if they also had an alternate name for No Way Out in Germany or not, since that also seems real bad. |
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05-03-2019, 08:16 PM | #138 |
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Someone needs to give the miserable talent being hoarded the idea to challenge the independent contractor thing. The Revival, Sasha Banks, Luke Harper, etc.
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05-04-2019, 01:28 AM | #139 | |
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What's great is Brock said fuck it, paid the legal bill, won, and now has made back the money WWE cost him 30 times over. All the wrestlers who genuinely bitch about Brocks contract are idiots. That dude has had Vince by the balls from day one, and it makes me happy knowing he flat out refuses to play any of their bullying games, and because of that he rakes in Vinces cash like no other person has in 40 years. |
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05-04-2019, 08:24 AM | #140 |
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Brock Lesnar is a brand based on more than image alone. Vince can't control that and has an ugly history of attempting to take a piece of the action when it comes to guys who bring in their own revenue.
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05-04-2019, 08:34 AM | #141 |
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I just wonder how they keep letting themselves be roped into these stupid contracts part of me wants to say you guys are dumb enough to sign them then you get everything you deserve the other part of me goes you guys are f****** idiots to not see that that contract is complete b******* you don't even have to need a lawyer to see how messed up and one sided it is
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05-04-2019, 06:02 PM | #142 |
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I hope talent now ask for an out clause.
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05-04-2019, 08:16 PM | #143 |
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That being said, I did have a good laugh upon hearing that he was supposed to return to UFC only to try to demand some outrageous amount of money for his fight he was to have and now he might be done. Good. Screw him.
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05-04-2019, 08:30 PM | #144 |
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What’s wrong with Brock wanting to get paid?
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05-04-2019, 09:00 PM | #145 |
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Yeah. If he needed the money, he would have brought his price down to meet them. But he doesn’t. So he can just let Vince pay him a disgusting amount of money to work 5 minutes every couple months because he made himself a star. Good for him.
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05-04-2019, 09:30 PM | #146 |
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People who say Brock is only in it for the money at this point confuse me. He must have more money than the US government, at this point. I’m sure being paid is nice, but I think Brock’s way past the point where he has to do it.
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05-04-2019, 11:49 PM | #147 |
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You missed my point (r/woosh). I have no problem with him getting paid, but it sounds to me like he was probably valuing himself at way more than what they were willing to offer him.
If I was in his situation, and I was offered 7 figures, and I thought it was a lowball offer, sure, I might counter-offer but I'm not going to demand, say 8 or 9 figures just because I think I deserve it. I don't have the full facts of what happened, but it's easy to see based on what reporting was done, where some people (admittedly, myself included) would think he probably acted like an entitled brat and then threw a hissy fit and threatened to never fight for UFC again. I hope to be proven wrong, but unless I am, I stand by my opinion. |
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News flash, every citizen, even those in debt, in the US, have more money than our government. In case you hadn't heard, the government is in debt to the tune of nearly $22 trillion.
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It's an expression, hombre. $22 trillion to play with is more than most banks will lend the average citizen. |
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05-05-2019, 12:20 AM | #150 |
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It's a debt, "hombre". They're not playing with house money no matter how much it might seem like it. It's literally money the government owes to its coffers just to get out of the red.
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05-05-2019, 12:26 AM | #151 |
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Jesus Christ, I wasn't being literal, DAMN.
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05-05-2019, 12:26 AM | #152 |
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It's an expression. When you call someone "the dog's breakfast," they're not really the dog's breakfast.
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05-05-2019, 12:34 AM | #153 |
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Well that's a weird expression and certainly one I've never heard, but C'est la vie or Que sera, sera or whatever. Sorry for interrupting the "adults" talking. Carry on.
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05-05-2019, 01:07 AM | #154 | |
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The issue is UFC is like WWE now, their deal with ESPN means their PPV buyrates are far lower, so a guy like Lesnar might have got a guaranteed purse or a million, plus a percentage of PPV money. Now with traditional PPV down, Brock asked for a higher guarantee to make up the difference, but Dana White isn't going to inflate the purses for anybody or he will have to do it for everybody. |
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05-05-2019, 01:52 AM | #155 |
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Was gonna say I thought I heard UFC got a guaranteed deal and don't necessarily need to worry as much about buy rates because they now get a flat payout or something like that, so having to pay up the ass for a legit draw like Lesnar isn't necessarily needed anymore.
Nobody loses. If UFC is healthy and stable enough to the point that they don't need to pay Lesnar his rate and Brock is obvs stable enough to only fight if the money's right, then it's really no big deal for either camp. The one who's really getting fucked is Vince. He's paying out the ass to use Lesnar 5 to 10 times a year and his company isn't really better off for it. Lesnar, thru no fault of his own, certainly hasn't made anyone. |
05-05-2019, 02:53 AM | #156 |
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Brock Lesnar doesn't want to fight for less than his retirement would cost. He is a good businessman.
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05-05-2019, 11:36 AM | #157 |
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He has a price and he doesn't negotiate. He's brilliant really.
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