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Old 05-24-2021, 02:53 PM   #7321
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I tried to get into the Eternals comics a number of times because they're tied to Marvel's cosmic side, which I love, but they're just so uninteresting.

I was never as surprised as other people that Guardians was a success, because the run it was based on, was one of the best reads in comics at the time. There are no great Eternals runs, however, so this is going to be Marvel Studio's biggest test yet.
Yeah.... Guardians would have been unknown to mostly everybody too, but at least they had entertaining source material.
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@fignuts i agree with that. the mcu in general going forawrd is a huge test. they have no star power really. cap and stark were huge draws.

spidey will revert to sony after this 3 picture deal is up. so he will be gone by phase 5.

Black panther is dead.

star lord can hold his own as a draw. i dunno how long pratt wants to go but they do have him. so thats a plus.

it starts getting scarce from there. i dont think captian marvel is going to have the legs they want her to have. i think a big chunk of the audience who saw the 1st film left very unimpressed

i think the x-men can save it but outside of that... very pivotal moment for them.

will the audience view Avengers 4 as a good point to get off the ride?
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Concept art Disney released at D23 shows the Deviants will be massive in scale
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Wonder if it being post-Endgame will hurt it too.... Like before, people would go "I gotta go see it they are building up to this massive thing" but now people might be "Meh, they are done. It's over. I have no reason to go see this random movie"
exactly this.
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With BP being this phases cap i thought they would be fine...losing him is a huge blow
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Those are Celestials.
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My bad

I haven't watched any of the MCU shows on Disney yet. I know Wandavision and Falcon/Soldier are both probably really good but I haven't gotten the vibe I needed to watch them to understand future MCU films. I also think future MCU films won't be as big of hits, seems hard to top the hype/interest Infinity War and Endgame had. I don't think they'll flop by any means but I just don't see them being as big as before.
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Yeah, I think they might have made "enough" fans who will stick with it no matter what and see whatever they are fed (barring several critically panned movies in a row or something), but I think a lot of the more casuals will jump off.
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i think wandavision is going to be massive.. i think its how think we are going to get mutants. you can sum up the vitals of falcon/winter soldier in a single sentence. falcon is cap now. thats all you need. its good but its impact is far less.
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@fignuts i agree with that. the mcu in general going forawrd is a huge test. they have no star power really. cap and stark were huge draws.

spidey will revert to sony after this 3 picture deal is up. so he will be gone by phase 5.

Black panther is dead.

star lord can hold his own as a draw. i dunno how long pratt wants to go but they do have him. so thats a plus.

it starts getting scarce from there. i dont think captian marvel is going to have the legs they want her to have. i think a big chunk of the audience who saw the 1st film left very unimpressed

i think the x-men can save it but outside of that... very pivotal moment for them.

will the audience view Avengers 4 as a good point to get off the ride?
It's a shame because Captain Marvel could have been a really big deal. I don't even blame the casting, because Brie is a good actress, but the way they had her portray the character was baffling. Carol is meant to have an aggressive, outspoken personality, and it's the exact opposite in the movie.

They do still have Thor, don't forget. Love and Thunder has the potential to be really good, as it's based on, imo, the best Thor run of all time.

I think what they have will still get them through phase 4, but X-Men and FF will make or break phase 5 and beyond.
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WandaVision was slower and more drawn-out to watch I think, but feel like it definitely "mattered" more and will have more "long term" repercussions seen in the movies.

While Falcon/Winter Soldier I think I definitely enjoyed watching more, but did feel more like just another typical Marvel movie (which really have all become just, "yeah, that was entertaining and good but I have no desire to ever watch it again")
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I think FF being done by the same director as the Tom Holland spidey movies is promising. Thor: Love and Thunder I'm really looking forward to. I'm personally really interested in Eternals since I think it will be really good but after that comes out Love & Thunder is the next MCU film I'm most excited for.
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oh and Ant-Man: Quantum-Mania

I really enjoyed the first two Ant-Man flicks a ton
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Yeah, I think they might have made "enough" fans who will stick with it no matter what and see whatever they are fed (barring several critically panned movies in a row or something), but I think a lot of the more casuals will jump off.
It's honestly hard to say after all the unexpected success stories they've had. Hell, the whole thing started with a hero that most people had only heard about, if they knew him at all.

I think building towards Galactus as a phase 6 villain could get casuals just as invested as they did towards Thanos.
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It's a shame because Captain Marvel could have been a really big deal. I don't even blame the casting, because Brie is a good actress, but the way they had her portray the character was baffling. Carol is meant to have an aggressive, outspoken personality, and it's the exact opposite in the movie.

They do still have Thor, don't forget. Love and Thunder has the potential to be really good, as it's based on, imo, the best Thor run of all time.

I think what they have will still get them through phase 4, but X-Men and FF will make or break phase 5 and beyond.
i love thor. he's my 2nd fav hero behind spidey. but his films have not been draws. im ultra hyped for thor 4 and i think thor 3 won over a lot of people but until he starts pulling bigger numbers i dont think its fair to count him in the "big star" camp. he could become far more. i hope he does. but thor 1 and thor 2...nearly flops. thor 2 is considered by many to be the worst mcu film (rediculous because its objectively The Incredible Hulk [Ed Norton])
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oh and Ant-Man: Quantum-Mania

I really enjoyed the first two Ant-Man flicks a ton
very low box office numbers for the 1st 2
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Really liked the second Ant-Man and third Thor movies. That being said, haven't watched them since the theater and don't really feel a pressing urge to rewatch them. Same with a lot of Marvel movies. They have become more like... dunno... disposable entertainment. One and done.
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WandaVision was slower and more drawn-out to watch I think, but feel like it definitely "mattered" more and will have more "long term" repercussions seen in the movies.

While Falcon/Winter Soldier I think I definitely enjoyed watching more, but did feel more like just another typical Marvel movie (which really have all become just, "yeah, that was entertaining and good but I have no desire to ever watch it again")
We're also possibly getting a Thunderbolts movie, based on how Falcon/WS panned out.
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ive never rewatched a marvel movie. its the serial that hooks me. i dont need to see them again.
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i love thor. he's my 2nd fav hero behind spidey. but his films have not been draws. im ultra hyped for thor 4 and i think thor 3 won over a lot of people but until he starts pulling bigger numbers i dont think its fair to count him in the "big star" camp. he could become far more. i hope he does. but thor 1 and thor 2...nearly flops. thor 2 is considered by many to be the worst mcu film (rediculous because its objectively The Incredible Hulk [Ed Norton])
Hulk beats out Dark World for me, just because the villains are better and the romantic story between Bruce and Betty is done better than Thor and Jane. Otherwise, yeah, they're both equally low.

I think Thor 4 will be the best one yet based on how well 3 did critically. People know not to sleep on it now.
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Yeah.... haven't rewatched a non-Avengers movie since before Doctor Strange. Infinity War I rewatched before Endgame came out... and Endgame I rewatched and was like... "you know, without the thrill of the event of seeing it for the first time this is quite long and tedious. What am I doing?"
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Hulk beats out Dark World for me, just because the villains are better and the romantic story between Bruce and Betty is done better than Thor and Jane. Otherwise, yeah, they're both equally low.

I think Thor 4 will be the best one yet based on how well 3 did critically. People know not to sleep on it now.
Tim Roth was good in Hulk but I'll never not swoon for Nataly Portman. id simp for anything she does ever.
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I still enjoy rewatching them once in a while, as the fight choreography is the best in the superhero genre. Lots of neat team up moves and such.
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Tim Roth was good in Hulk but I'll never not swoon for Nataly Portman. id simp for anything she does ever.
It really had nothing to do with her performance, as she's Natalie fucking Portman, of course she did the best job anyone could. It was more how the characters were written and the scenes they were in which left me with that impression. Which isn't to say they were bad, just that Hulk did it a little better imo.
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Old 05-24-2021, 03:40 PM   #7345
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her role in 2 felt forced. like she was shoe horned into a script 1 month out from production
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Old 05-24-2021, 03:41 PM   #7346
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like in star wars i felt like she got as much mileage out of the script she was given as any actress on earth could have
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Old 05-24-2021, 03:46 PM   #7347
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I still have no idea why Angelina Jolie is in this.
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Because all actors/actresses will eventually be a part of the MCU
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Because all actors/actresses will eventually be a part of the MCU
Keep Rob Schneider and Kevin James out of my super hero movies.
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That's 2 of the Fantastic 4 right there
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I still have no idea why Angelina Jolie is in this.
I think it's good casting. She has a look well suited for the whole.
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I still have no idea why Angelina Jolie is in this.
She's a good actress and one of the few who did well in action movies pre-Marvel taking over the world so it doesn't bother me.
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Did Gemma Chan die in Captain Marvel? I can't remember.

Confused as to why she went from Kree to Eternal.
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Did Gemma Chan die in Captain Marvel? I can't remember.

Confused as to why she went from Kree to Eternal.
Yeah, her character got blown up in her ship by Rambeau.
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I'm still thinking that Richard Madden and Sebastian Stan look like the same guy and that is gonna confuse people
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Lol maybe they have a slight resemblance to each other. Saying that might even be a stretch.

You might be alone on that one.
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i mean

he is obviously not even close to alone on this
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Yeah apparently it’s a thing. I didn’t know that.
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Did Gemma Chan die in Captain Marvel? I can't remember.

Confused as to why she went from Kree to Eternal.
She didn't. She's playing a completely different character. Apparently Fiege loved her so much he wanted to bring her back for a more substantial role.
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Get an "Inhumans" vibe from it. Hopefully it turns out better than that did.
That's because this was supposed to be an Inhumans movie. Until Pearlmutter fucked it up.
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