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Old 01-24-2012, 09:54 AM   #1
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laptop has gone all Nazi on me

posting from safe mode rn

so very occasionally over the last year or so, my laptop will starting making this little noise, like a click and mini bit of whirring and when it does this, the computer basically stops working/freezes (can still move the mouse/"navigate" mostly but nothing responds. It first happened when I opened Photoshop one day and the computer would freeze, I'd hold the power switch, let it come back on, load Photoshop again and same result etc. So I simply stopped using PS) pretty annoying but with it only happening occasionally, I kind of turned a blind eye.

So fast forward to last night and I figured I'd illegally download Football Manager 2012, install, mount etc yadda yadda and now the computer is doing the above schtick but all the time. Like I can boot the comp, browse the internet or play music or even just navigate Windows etc for a few minutes before the click/whirring gimmick starts and makes the whole thing pretty much unusable. Uninstalled FM and Daemon Tools Lite and yet it persists. Working fine in safe mode tho (have no system recovery points ) but I want some bastard sound and my proper resolution. Help mah.


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Old 01-24-2012, 10:09 AM   #2
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Sounds like some sort of memory failure gimmick, especially considering Photoshop and Football Manager are the most memory hungry programs of all time.

Would say the hard drive because of the clicking, but if stuff opens fine in safe mode, can't think it would be that. May as well check it first though as it's easier. Right click on your hard drive in my computer, select properties and on one of the tabs, you should have an option to run scandisk and defrag. Do both of them and see any errors.

If that's clean as a whistle, try memtest.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:50 AM   #3
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ran scandisk (if it's the one that's now called "Error-checking", directly above defrag) nothing came up with that, can't run defrag in safe mode so restarted in "normal" mode, got 39% of the way through "Analyze" before the clicking/whirring/freezing started

going to check the memtest thang
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hold on, how does this memtest thing work? Do i need to get Daemon Tools/something to mount it with?
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Need to burn it onto an actual CD and start the computer with the CD in.
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this is what I feared. Gonna hunt the room for blank discs
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I'm pretty sure you can boot memtest from a USB stick, as well.

Edit: Here, http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1340783
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And I'm calling hard drive failure.
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but why now all of a sudden, specifically after installing FM? and why is it fine in safe mode? I feel like it's taunting me
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Hard drives fail, most of the time, out of the blue. Just reading the words "click" and "whirring" and "freeze" just screams HDD failure to me.
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Yeah, same here. But if that were the case, safe mode would fail pretty much too, especially if Scandisk is coming back all sexy-good.
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As Hasney said, the programs are memory eating monsters. How much did you have open when using these things? I know if I have a lot of stuff open at times my desktop will make whirring sounds and go really slow until I close some memory hogging application.
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nah, nowhere near that simple

ran the Memtest schtick, no errors.
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Its difficult to explain, but does your icons on your desktop go a bit grainy around the fonts when it freezes?
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nah, it doesn't "freeze" as in everything freezes, you just can't really do anything. Cursor still moves around and everything but outside of the occasional My Computer etc, nothing responds when clicked on
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Ah, thought you might be having the same issue I have been having. Comp will freeze and the icons will go grainy and I have to reboot. Think its either the video card or the HDD.
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so I was having this problem still until today when I had another butchers on the net for people with similar problems. Came across a guy who also has an HP laptop and he mentioned going through msconfig, unchecking certain processes etc at a time which I had already done, just not very thoroughly because, let's face it, doing that shit is boring as boring ass. However, he deducted that it was Windows Search causing the problem on his machine. So I've disabled that and touch wood, it appears to have sorted the problem, posting now from a normal bootup, it's been at least half an hour etc since I booted up, which is at least 15-20 minutes longer than it's gone without freezing since this problem started etc. Any idea why Windows Search could have given me so much grief? Pretty strange.
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my god I'd forgotten what a lovely sparkling resolution looked like
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Oh look, an Englishman asking Americans for help against Nazis.

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my stuff was obviously aimed at stand up scholar-esque Englishman Hasney, any Americans that got involved did so off their own backs and just butted in whether help was wanted or not. BIG SURPRISE THERE CHIEF
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and Canadians. But who are we kidding, they don't count.
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Well when you're better than everyone else, it's pretty noble to help your lessers out, when you could be carrying on being great and all.
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Canada is a country? I thought it was just a maple syrup company.
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Well when you're better than everyone else, it's pretty noble to help your lessers out, when you could be carrying on being great and all.
I'm drowning out your hatred with some very British music coming from my laptop for the first time in god knows how long. I feel like one of these beagles that were filmed seeing sunlight and grass for the first time.

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And snow I think. Maple syrup and snow.
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I'm leaning towards a power supply failure. All the noises, plus the shifting to lower res setting suggests to me that it's powering down whatver it has to stay running. Safe Mode uses the barest of barebone settings so that the user can at least troubleshoot an issue. It's basically doing what my old desktop was doing when the power supply startd going...only, it would just randomly shut itself down. That was my own doing though. I discovered that it was a video card I put in that was taking more to power than the PC was supplying.

Could also be an hdd issue as some laptops are very prone to that.
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Hard Drive is fucked. Replace it and reinstall.
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