11-26-2017, 05:59 PM | #441 |
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Huh, this barely made the budget.
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11-26-2017, 06:10 PM | #442 |
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Budget is 30mil pre marketing. Safe estimate is 450mil
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11-26-2017, 06:12 PM | #443 |
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Its doing well in china though. Will cover cost for sure. Profit margins will be far less than projections so stocks will take a hit
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11-26-2017, 06:22 PM | #444 |
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11-26-2017, 07:05 PM | #445 |
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@83mil in china right now
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11-26-2017, 07:06 PM | #446 |
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Its going to clear 500mil for certain. So it wont lose money. Return of investment is still looking to be poor but not abysmal
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11-26-2017, 08:40 PM | #447 |
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I think what DC really needs to turn things around is to make sure all their solo movies are really good. So hopefully Aquaman doesn't suck. Really worried about it.
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11-26-2017, 08:40 PM | #448 |
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Same. I think if its bad only wondy will draw
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11-26-2017, 08:50 PM | #449 |
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11-26-2017, 08:57 PM | #450 |
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No, but maybe it can sink.
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11-26-2017, 08:57 PM | #451 |
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I'll show myself out.
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11-26-2017, 08:59 PM | #452 |
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lol
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11-26-2017, 09:21 PM | #453 |
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I just don't want WB to freak out because the second half of JL is honestly enjoyable and they can salvage what they have without some drastic bullshit like dumping the cinematic universe for something 'loosely tied'. They need to get over themselves if they think they're gonna make MCU money without the cohesion and creative effort MCU does. Even though Fox adopted a decentralized cinematic universe they still adhere to a core of X-Men films, with consistent actors. At least since Days.
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11-26-2017, 09:24 PM | #454 |
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11-27-2017, 01:07 AM | #457 |
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Joss should have been in charge of Superman from the word go.
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11-27-2017, 01:09 AM | #458 |
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The superman choice was top down. They wanted the universe to be grity, matching batman's tone. So everyone was to be more drab...course the end result was they lightened batman up. Which was the right call.
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11-27-2017, 03:02 AM | #459 |
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Snyder stepped down from Justice League way before it was finished, cause of his daughter's suicide.
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11-27-2017, 07:51 AM | #460 |
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Kinda wonder if the actors playing Batman feel just a bit stupid when they're the only ones who always have to speak in a stupid voice. Well, except for Dark Knight Rises, Bane stole the show with his gibberish.
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11-27-2017, 08:44 AM | #461 |
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Film was in post production when synder left but my point was more during man of steal
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11-27-2017, 08:53 AM | #462 |
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Fair enough.
Ok, just watched this. It was ok, nothing great but I liked it. I really like the casting. Too b ad Aquaman was pretty fucking useless, he could at least slap Steppenwolf with a herring or something. |
11-27-2017, 05:44 PM | #463 |
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The concept is predicated on Superman pretending he needs help.
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11-27-2017, 05:47 PM | #464 |
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Right. Haven't read much DC books, but if I remember right it wasn't that obvious there. They somehow always came up with problems that could use the whole team, not everyone getting punched around till Supes decides to come over.
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11-27-2017, 06:35 PM | #465 |
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11-27-2017, 06:38 PM | #466 |
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Kryptonite?
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11-27-2017, 06:40 PM | #467 |
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Man of steel falls on Snyder and Goyer because it's their movie. Just because the studio wanted something darkahs gritty doesn't mean it needed to suck or top out and interestinglymediocre. Which is the best compliment I can give to any of the three Snyder films.
I also don't believefor one second he stepped down. His daughter passed well before he left the project. I think they saw his assembly cut and realized it sucked hard, so forced him out with Whedon finishing and salvaging it, saving face by letting him "stepdown" and "be with his family". |
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I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. The family issue could have just built up on him and WB was... more than understanding that he had to step down.
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11-27-2017, 06:47 PM | #470 |
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I honestly can't see how he stepped down without being forced. He finished the movie. Was already into pre production. Maybe he was stressed sure, but I think he finishes the film and releases whatever train wreck he played if they didn't force him out
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11-27-2017, 07:05 PM | #472 |
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Maybe he's more a team player than we realize? After the shame of BvS was fresh over him at that point.
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11-27-2017, 07:07 PM | #473 |
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Biggest fuckup with BvS was the ending. A fucking kryptonite spear. Why exactly Wonder woman couldn't use it? You know, as opposed to the guy who can die because of it?
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11-27-2017, 07:16 PM | #474 |
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Women cant use spears
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11-27-2017, 07:17 PM | #475 |
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Ah, right. Neither can bats. Makes sense.
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11-27-2017, 07:17 PM | #476 |
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Aquaman grunting > Batman grunting
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11-30-2017, 10:00 AM | #477 |
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Rumor until I find a credible source:
TL; DR version- WB execs put out a bad movie on PURPOSE for a quick payday. Here's a timeline to explain- -After the Batman trilogy, WB wanted Nolan to do Superman- but Nolan said no and instead pushed for Snyder (a family friend). -During Man of Steel and BvS, Warner Brothers execs didn't even read Snyder's notes on the films... instead just trusting him. - The President and The CEO of WB hated BvS so much that they wanted to fire Snyder from JL... but it was set to begin filming the following week so they kept him on and sent in a babysitter to oversee everything. -Warner Brothers hated the direction JL was going and kept trying to get Snyder to change things, which he would but it was difficult and stressful for him. -Snyder was about to quit or get fired when the tragedy happened with his family. He choose to get lost in the work and go all in to separate himself from the tragedy. He made it worse. -Huge pressure from WB execs at this point who were understanding of what Snyder was facing in real life, but they were very against the movie. They called it a Frankenstein movie and said it was incoherent and made no sense and way too dark. -Snyder quits to attend to his family. ***-INSTEAD of delaying the movie into 2018, WB CEO and President decide to bring in another director and throw in $100m studio money for reshoots for a quick turn around (This includes down to things like the infamous CGI over Superman's lip being done poorly- because they didn't have the time/resources) and to keep the release date BECAUSE if the movie was released in 2017 they would be able to apply it to their bonus checks for the year and get $$$$... but they were both sure they wouldn't have a job in 2018 so if the movie released then, they wouldn't get the bonus. WB execs made a conscious decision to release a poor product which they acknowledged would be bad- simply because it would mean $ up front for them. |
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Also WB wouldn't give a damn about coherency. I mean, the whole theory is predicated on WB knowing what a good or bad movie is before the fact, and they fucking don't. And one thing that will never be true in the entertainment industry is purposefully allowing garbage to be attached to your name.
A bad movie or game is attributed to incompetence, not malice. And Joss would never be in on a hack job. This is all salty conspiracy theory. |