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Old 09-07-2019, 02:32 PM   #1
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Does anyone else think SD will bomb on FOX?
I just can't picture this influx of old fans or new fans watching WWE as it currently is, even if they upgrade the cameras and set. I feel like the storylines and creative will still be pretty 'eh'.

Since Friday is a bad night for TV I am guessing the best shot is hooking people under 10 and over 60 - and I am not sure people under 10 really watch TV these days, I think they mostly watch YT/Hulu/Netflix/incoming Disney +
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Old 09-07-2019, 02:42 PM   #2
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Yeah I don't see any good coming out of this I wonder what made fox say yes it is and think it was a good idea I wonder if they really know what they're getting unless the WWE really really steps up their game
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Old 09-07-2019, 03:51 PM   #3
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I could see the show debuting with a decent number - between 3 and 4 million - but eventually sliding to where it is now, around 2 million, maybe 2.5 million.

Certainly not some 7-8 million new 'boom' period lol.
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Old 09-07-2019, 04:37 PM   #4
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I could see the show debuting with a decent number - between 3 and 4 million - but eventually sliding to where it is now, around 2 million, maybe 2.5 million.
That is my guess also
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Yeah, I think 2.5 million sounds about right. It will be bad for the slot, but they’ve got them all year round. That will be the justification for it.
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They somehow managed to get 5 million for the last Raw milestone show before losing half the audience within a couple weeks. I figure the same will happen here. Draw in an audience with nostalgia, chase them away with the current guys/product.
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Old 09-07-2019, 06:42 PM   #7
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Then again, you’ve got a part of that potential audience that got reeled in by the last nostalgia show and won’t fall for it again so they may have lost a portion of that 5 million for good.
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Old 09-07-2019, 06:42 PM   #8
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Honestly think it depends on Vince.

If he's gonna keep re-writing the script 1 hour before showtime and have zero faith in the Smackdown writing team, the show's in big big trouble.
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Feel like he’s done that for the better part of 2 decades now. I can’t see any reason he’d change now.
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True, yes.

But, it's these past few weeks recently that's should have people worried. Raw's probably had a few tweaks here and there or run pretty smooth lately.
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Hopefully, yes.
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like 99% sure the long-term results won't be great.
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Even with the Friday time spot, it probably will still do better than the numbers on USA Network but FOX and WWE are fooling themselves if they think its going to hit 3+ million for the long term.

WWE hasn't shown its willing to do serious rehauling of their entire creative process and mentality while FOX is putting way too much faith in their sports audience supporting the show in huge numbers.
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Lol, the sporting audience isn't going to watch WWE. It's way too "fruity." I don't mean that as a sexual slur, but it's just bouncy, warm, cuddly and smooth. Except for the nauseating jump cuts.

The promotion material makes me think they're going for families. "We're All Superstars -- Isn't WWE FUN?!?"
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Yeah I don't see any good coming out of this I wonder what made fox say yes it is and think it was a good idea I wonder if they really know what they're getting unless the WWE really really steps up their game
Because WWE fits in exactly with Fox's new business model.

Fox cashed out most of their assets in the sale to Disney. They are presenting live sports at a time when traditional TV is on its last legs. Love sports is generally accepted as the only bullet left in terms of the old model of watching something when it actually airs.

We think $1 billion is an incredible number, but that is over 5 years. They are basically paying WWE less than $1 million per 30 minute block of live Prime time television.

That is absolutely nothing compared to anything else they could air, and certainly not anything they could air live.

So they found something that can take up their Friday night's for $4 million. WWE will promote other Fox things on Smackdown the same way they now do for USA Network.

It all works in Fox's benefit, and WWE makes more than they currently do. It's a win win.
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It's good in conception, until you realize that WWE doesn't get watched like live sports. Wrestling is also bad for advertising.
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Nothing does well on Friday. This wont be any different. Itll do the same average the last time they moved SD! to Friday.
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If it was the only A show then I could see it becoming one of the biggest shows on Friday nights but considering by the time Friday rolls around most people will have already seen at least 4 or more hours of wrestling that week. I doubt it will be priority viewing for fans. I do think this whole deal is gonna end badly for WWE.
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It's good in conception, until you realize that WWE doesn't get watched like live sports. Wrestling is also bad for advertising.
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If it was the only A show then I could see it becoming one of the biggest shows on Friday nights but considering by the time Friday rolls around most people will have already seen at least 4 or more hours of wrestling that week. I doubt it will be priority viewing for fans. I do think this whole deal is gonna end badly for WWE.
How can it and badly for WWE? Define what would be a bad ending? They have a 5 year contract, so they are getting that money no matter what, even if moved to Fox Sports. They have already moved the show from network to cable in the past without any disruption. They clearly have other options seeing how quickly they got a deal for NXT. Worst case they can just air it on the Network if they need to.

I would think ending badly for Fox is a much more valid argument.
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Nothing does well on Friday. This wont be any different. Itll do the same average the last time they moved SD! to Friday.
I’m trying to remember the exact period that SmackDown was broadcast on Friday nights, and the Wiki says it was 2005-2015. There’s no way it could have been that long, right?
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Itll do the same average the last time they moved SD! to Friday.
I doubt it since the last time it aired on Fridays, it wasn't as a live show.

Moving the show from taped to live added a few hundred thousand extra viewers on average when USA Network demanded the change. That was on top of the added viewers they got when it was moved to Tuesdays.

Don't see it getting the extra 1+ million FOX thinks the show will get for the long term but it won't bottom out that bad unless WWE completely tanks the show. FOX would likely banish the show to FS1 before that even happens.
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I think it'll be funny if more people watch Smackdown on friday than RAW.

But honestly the true test of how the ratings will be should probably have already happened...or at least tonight..and thats with all the Smackdown advertising Sunday during NFL will more people be watching Smackdown tonight?
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Every time on Twitter I see people mention FOX or the NFL promoting WWE & SDLive I look up recent tweets and it's only wrestling fans talking about it -- I don't think the interest is there from the general public.
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I don’t know if there are many people that don’t know WWE exists but would want it to.
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These non-WWE fans are PUMPED for Friday Night SmackDown!
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FOX has been doing like 800k-1m on Friday nights from 8-10 for the past couple of months, so even if SmackDown stays at 2m, still gonna be a big improvement for FOX for a lot of the year
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I think it debuts at 4 million and settles (eventually) at 2.5 million
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Smackdown should be on UPN only.
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Apparently FOX's airing of Smackdown is going to be handled in a pretty weird way. East Coast being live and West Coast being tape delayed isn't an issue but Mountain Time Zone will have 2-3 different airing times depending on the cable provider.

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Status quo so far, right? The mountain time zone is where things get interesting.

Fox’s “Friday Night SmackDown” will air at 7 p.m. MT, according to Fox Sports and WWE, which is 6 p.m. PT (and 8 p.m. central/9 p.m. eastern). In other words, the mountain time zone will soon get “SmackDown” two actual hours before the west coast does, and just one-hour tape-delayed overall.

Which feed mountain-time viewers actually received depended on their cable affiliate. So some fans there would see the show starting at 6 p.m. local time (MT), others at 9 p.m. local time (MT). That is, unless a viewer had DirecTV, which picked up USA’s east coast feed for the entire country. Any west-coast DirecTV subscriber* got USA’s “SmackDown Live” at 5 p.m. PT explaining our asterisk from above.

Not anymore. DirecTV customers can no longer watch “SmackDown Live”…live. “Friday Night SmackDown” on Fox will start at 8 p.m. PT on the west coast– even for satellite TV customers.
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But west coast people with Directv can watch AEW live since theres an East and West coast feed of TNT.
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