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View Poll Results: Poll: Is Monday Night Raw the worst show on television? (Vote below)
Yes, I believe it is. 18 45.00%
Eh, Iím not so sure. 7 17.50%
No, I donít think so. 15 37.50%
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Old 05-04-2019, 04:50 PM   #161
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Wrestlers work hard for your entertainment. More in-ring product than during the attitude era. Everybody is a top-tier athlete.
More in-ring product doesn't automatically mean good TV.

For example, Baron Corbin is a featured act on RAW and he fucking sucks. More Baron Corbin matches means the show is objectively worse.

See also: Lashley.

Last edited by screech; 05-04-2019 at 04:50 PM. Reason: I am weeks behind on RAW, so I've no idea if Lashley is still there. He still sucks hard, though.
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Old 05-04-2019, 06:07 PM   #162
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I give 0 shits about more in-ring product if thereís no stories being told or the stories being told are shit. And Iím pretty sure Iím in the vast majority of potential viewers.
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Old 05-05-2019, 08:44 AM   #163
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I give 0 shits about more in-ring product if there’s no stories being told or the stories being told are shit. And I’m pretty sure I’m in the vast majority of potential viewers.
What’s this? You don’t find wrestlers wrestling to build momentum a compelling storyline? What about wrestlers trying to get on a roll? What about wrestlers trying to make a statement? No? Jesus, you’re tough. You should be more grateful that these wrestlers are working hard for your entertainment.
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Old 05-05-2019, 10:21 AM   #164
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I’d accept just building momentum or wrestling simply because winning matches is important as a story. Even pre-2000s squash matches told a story. Doesn’t have to be too complex.

I have no idea why most matches in WWE nowadays happen. They drill the point home that the outcomes don’t mean anything. So fuck the in-ring product.
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Old 05-05-2019, 10:33 AM   #165
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Ricochet losing to Bobby Roode but then getting put into Money in the Bank might seem inconsequential, but it’s a wonderful example of this company just not making sense and things happening for no reason.
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Old 05-05-2019, 03:11 PM   #166
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Was catching up on Smackdown today and I realized that it is so much better than RAW because (among other things) Michael Cole is not there. I don't know if it's been mentioned here, but his grating voice yelling "IT'S BOSS TIME" and shit really hurts the show.
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Old 05-05-2019, 04:39 PM   #167
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The commentary is all-round terrible though.
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Old 05-05-2019, 06:18 PM   #168
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Was catching up on Smackdown today and I realized that it is so much better than RAW because (among other things) Michael Cole is not there. I don't know if it's been mentioned here, but his grating voice yelling "IT'S BOSS TIME" and shit really hurts the show.
The only irritating thing about Smackdown's commentary is whenever Graves continues his shtick from RAW with the random bickering to Saxton. Once in a while its funny but most of the time it just comes off as him being really irritating.

Started to appreciate Saxton more on commentary when he was paired with Percy Watson for the Worlds Collide specials since it showed he can be pretty decent on commentary when given a more relaxed or friendly environment to do so.
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Old 05-05-2019, 06:30 PM   #169
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Tom Phillips is a massive improvement over Michael Cole and he and Graves work well together.
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Old 05-05-2019, 06:35 PM   #170
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Saxton is by far the best main show commentator they have simply because he knows when to shut the fuck up.
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Old 05-14-2019, 05:13 AM   #171
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I watched a few segments on SmackDown the other week. Saxton was a lot less irritating than I remember. He was still not good, by any stretch, but commentary has gotten so bad that he seems like one of their best.
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Old 05-27-2019, 09:02 PM   #172
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Does anyone want to add to the list?

Maybe you really like Michael Cole telling us where Balor Club has come to that evening?
Maybe you like a wrestling show with no wrestling?
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Old 05-29-2019, 07:47 PM   #173
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After this week's Raw, I am changing my answer to "yes".
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:42 AM   #175
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It's started to affect SDLive too.

I had to turn my beloved brand blue off when I saw a graphic onscreen saying "Tonight is Shane McMahon Appreciation Night".
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:15 PM   #176
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Unfortunately for the WWE, the Creative team isn't "creative" enough to come up with compelling characters that can captivate an audience or bring in new fans. Hence - instead of building two brands and increasing the overall depth of both shows, you now have two very sub-par rosters. The same thing happened 17 years ago when the WWE attempted the roster split. I have been a wrestling fan for quite some time and so it's entirely possible that I know what I'm talking about here.
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