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Old 08-16-2018, 10:40 AM   #41
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Before the storm I had herd the comment on his show and it did raise my eyebrow because I find her very fit and attractive, but it didn't offend me. I think the anti-Dave community is using this as ammunition for their war against him. If you've herd Dave's latest show he speaks on the topic and deeply apologizes and expresses his regret over saying what he said. I think it's incredibly backwards to single him out when people who work for the company have said many more demeaning and offensive things on social media or interviews. WWE has been fat shaming since Vince Jr. took over. Dave said she wasn't as attractive as she was in NXT when she was a bit lighter. That is a comment that could be made about any performer male or female. For the community to constantly throw "professional journalist" as a slight is a joke. I don't care what anyone thinks about Dave or the sheets. Most people in the business have a bad opinion of Dave because they don't make the cut into the higher echelon of his work, or because they suck. It doesn't matter to me. Peyton is really hot.
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:55 AM   #42
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Doesn't the other one look "fatter"?
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:56 AM   #43
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Honestly, Dave is a bit "on the spectrum" and an easy target because he puts his foot in his mouth and is kind of the nerdy awkward guy. But I love him.
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Old 08-16-2018, 12:09 PM   #44
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Not for a second lol
Hate to break it to you guys but he isnt a journalist. He does tabloid pieces.
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Old 08-16-2018, 12:10 PM   #45
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Old 08-16-2018, 12:23 PM   #47
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Fu** Dave! and Fu** the SJW's that are overreacting to the comments.
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Old 08-16-2018, 12:39 PM   #48
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Hate to break it to you guys but he isnt a journalist. He does tabloid pieces.


I'd have to agree just to keep the value of the word "journalist" alive a little longer. Though a lot of integrity has been destroyed by tabloid reporting and the pap. As for Meltzer lots of his stuff is unverified and asks more questions than it answers. Specious speculation and a bit of dirt raking doesn't really qualify him as a journalist at all. So much bias.
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Old 08-16-2018, 12:46 PM   #49
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To me Dave is a critic and historian, journalist? I don't know, don't really care.
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Old 08-16-2018, 01:07 PM   #50
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Doesn't the other one look "fatter"?
He was most likely talking about her breast implants and not her weight (since he has apparently brought up not liking implants a few times)... She got them when she moved to the main roster. When he said "she was a lot lighter" I think he was "joking" about that.

He can't really be like, "I was actually talking about her breasts" though
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Old 08-16-2018, 01:08 PM   #51
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He should have said that in his follow up tweets.
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Old 08-16-2018, 01:10 PM   #52
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Not enough before and after pics in this thread.
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He should have said that in his follow up tweets.
Added another sentence to my post re: that

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He can't really be like, "I was actually talking about her breasts" though
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That wouldn't improve the situation
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Hate to break it to you guys but he isnt a journalist. He does tabloid pieces.
So it's the "journalist" who uses second hand information to put together his tabloid pieces vs the carny bullshit artists in a battle of who is more credible.

Still gonna give the edge to Meltzer.
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Old 08-16-2018, 01:21 PM   #57
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So it's the "journalist" who uses second hand information to put together his tabloid pieces vs the carny bullshit artists in a battle of who is more credible.

Still gonna give the edge to Meltzer.
pretty much where I'm coming from lol
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He was most likely talking about her breast implants and not her weight (since he has apparently brought up not liking implants a few times)... She got them when she moved to the main roster. When he said "she was a lot lighter" I think he was "joking" about that.

He can't really be like, "I was actually talking about her breasts" though
I thought it was obvious when he started out by saying she stood out on NXT and doesn't stand out anymore that he was referring to her implants and how they made her look more like everyone else. Oddly enough if he were a little less of a pussy about it and just came out and said it, he would have avoided this.
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Being in a bad relationship and wanting out via cheating isn't really the same thing. It's not great but it doesn't mean he can't defend a friend.
While cheating on your fiancé with an alleged Nazi is one thing, sending unsolicited dick pics to random girls he just met in a bar a few hours ago is probably the thing that makes him look less immaculate here.

Why does his friend even need to be defended? Does he think she can't do it on her own or something?
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"Being in a bad relationship and wanting out via cheating".

lol Such ridiculous wording
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Also, he wasn't defending a friend. He was trolling Meltzer.
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If he really wanted to break up with his fiancé with no chance of reconciliation he should have just gone on a podcast and said he didn't like her tits.
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Or I dunno, talked to her maybe?
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So it's the "journalist" who uses second hand information to put together his tabloid pieces vs the carny bullshit artists in a battle of who is more credible.

Still gonna give the edge to Meltzer.
"I dont trust the carny bullshit artists i only trust the guy who gets stories from the carny bullshit artists."

Brilliant.

The part you're missing is the carny bullshit has more people backing it than metlzer. Meltzer has one guy tell him a story and he prints it. No self respecting journalist on Earth would do that. Yet everyone on the internet swallows that jizz like its printed gold.

Its not journalism. at all. The fact you believe it says something negative about how you consume information.

Kayfabe commentaries is the closest thing to journalism in wrestling at this point. scores of workers telling stories that verify or scrutinize the others. and it ROUTINELY goes against the tabloid rags you guys love so much.
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Either way, you're getting stories from carnies though. Hate to burst that bubble.
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:10 PM   #68
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"I dont trust the carny bullshit artists i only trust the guy who gets stories from the carny bullshit artists."

Brilliant.

The part you're missing is the carny bullshit has more people backing it than metlzer. Meltzer has one guy tell him a story and he prints it. No self respecting journalist on Earth would do that. Yet everyone on the internet swallows that jizz like its printed gold.

Its not journalism. at all. The fact you believe it says something negative about how you consume information.

Kayfabe commentaries is the closest thing to journalism in wrestling at this point. scores of workers telling stories that verify or scrutinize the others. and it ROUTINELY goes against the tabloid rags you guys love so much.
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"I dont trust the carny bullshit artists i only trust the guy who gets stories from the carny bullshit artists."

Brilliant.
So you seem to think everyone in the wrestling business is equally as much of a bullshitter as everyone else. I know it adds to the "too cool for school" gimmick. It's not true though. There are guys who are known, verifiable bullshit artists to a compulsive level. Because of that their credibility is insanely low. The guy getting his stories from many different sources within the group and "reporting" on it instantly has more credibility than the known pathological liars of said group. And the fact that Meltzer's biggest detractors in the business seem to be the biggest known bullshitters and his supporters are guys like Cornette who, say what you want about his philosophy or his temper, doesn't have NEARLY the track record of bullshitting as a Prichard or Russo or Bischoff, only adds to that.

And for the record, I don't even care that much for Meltzer. Never subscribed to the Observer. Never really cared about his opinions, even. I'm indifferent toward him. And on top of that, he surely has a habit of showing favoritism toward his friends. So the "Meltzer Sheep" thing just doesn't work. It's just common sense. The bullshitters and the guy who reports what he hears from the group as a whole are not even on the same level of credibility.
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:28 PM   #71
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I watched Roddy Piper tell yarn after yarn on his Timeline with KC
lol That isn't even the beginning of it.

Sean Oliver is more credible than Russo or Bischoff though, too.
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Given how the topic has grown, I vote that the thread title be changed to "To Sheep or Not to Sheep: The Definitive Dave Meltzer Thread".
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A lot of the time, the newz is right, but I still don't trust it one bit.
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We have three blondes on the poster of the FIRST-EVER WOMEN'S PPV, and nobody says anything. Dave has a right to have his own opinion, moreover, he was mentioning her breast-implants not her weight.
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this whole thing just shows you how many people love to say shit about people behind a computer screen. If Dave really meant her boobs, then whatever. if he meant to actually call her fat, then he's a moron anyway.

But what gets me is all these wrestlers with twitter accounts attacking Meltzer. so childish. I'm surprised the WWE allows them to have twitter accounts. like bro, he apologized, get over it. wtf is calling Meltzer a piece of garbage over twitter going to do?
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