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Old 06-15-2018, 09:23 AM   #41
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I was just watching the Naito match, it's really awesome but there is a theme I'm seeing with Jericho since he returned for AJ. He's heavier, and he botches spots from time to time. His timing is off a little because of the extra weight or maybe also injuries. But there is something about the sloppiness that comes off raw and real, kind of like a better version of CM Punk. But I gotta say, I do want him to lose the gut.
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:25 AM   #42
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I thought he carried the match with Omega. I like that he gets to work more of a brawling style, which is the smartest thing he can do. Yet to see the match with Naito, but I will check it out.
I think the Naito match is better than the Omega match.
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:51 AM   #43
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He's not getting rid of that gut. It's now part of who he is. #GutIsJericho

He's almost 50 and he's not on the gas or HGH, so it's just how it's going to be. As long as he's not trying to work a technical style, the small botches will be fine and actually work with the flow of his dirtier, grittier matches. Unfortunately, he'll come back to WWE and they'll have him trade wristlocks with AJ again.
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:54 AM   #44
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Man the first 10 minutes of that Naito match are so fucking raw. He looks so legit as he beats the shit out of him.
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:54 AM   #45
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He actually said he put on weight for his NJPW run on purpose. It's not a company based on bodies any way. Stan Hansen wasn't exactly chiseled out of granite.
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:55 AM   #46
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Also with the #GUTISJERICHO the Lion Sault has never looked more devastating. True story.
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Old 06-15-2018, 12:01 PM   #47
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He's not getting rid of that gut. It's now part of who he is. #GutIsJericho

He's almost 50 and he's not on the gas or HGH, so it's just how it's going to be. As long as he's not trying to work a technical style, the small botches will be fine and actually work with the flow of his dirtier, grittier matches. Unfortunately, he'll come back to WWE and they'll have him trade wristlocks with AJ again.
#GutIsJericho is comedy.
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Old 06-15-2018, 12:16 PM   #48
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I thought he carried the match with Omega. I like that he gets to work more of a brawling style, which is the smartest thing he can do. Yet to see the match with Naito, but I will check it out.
He may have carried your interest but he didnt carry the match.
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Old 06-16-2018, 05:39 AM   #49
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He may have carried your interest but he didnt carry the match.
You'd know more than me. He was definitely the most interesting part of that match. Kenny loses me. It was a more refined performance from Omega, that's for sure.
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Via the immutable laws of physics, #GutIsJericho couldn't carry a match versus Kenny. Remember, if Kenny decided he wanted to blow Chris up, Chris would be fucked.
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Old 06-16-2018, 07:07 PM   #51
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It was more the pacing and psychology I was focusing on. It felt like Jericho set the tone for it all. I do think Destor is right, because the spots needed Omega to be on, but Omega upped his game for it. And Jericho is a much better personality to me.

The match worked because of everything Jericho put into it, but saying he "carried it" was a bit extreme and naive on my end. I spoke without thinking.
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Old 06-16-2018, 07:09 PM   #52
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By the way, I like the gut on Jericho. It plays into him being the bitter vet and makes him feel more "burly" which plays into the brawling he's doing. I don't really need Jericho to have abs in 2018.
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Oh yeah it totally works for him. And he still looks athletic and has ab muscles. I know lots of athletic dudes with guts - the two aren't mutually exclusive.

The only thing KIND of hurting his look is his chest, which is quite saggy but I'm being nitpicky.
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Yeah, agreed. I do have to say though, I fucking cringe every time Jericho goes for the Lionsault now. I've never seen him fuck it up, but every time feels a little bit closer to that time. It just feels like the move is "slow" and out of place for him now anyway. He's fine using the Codebreaker and the Walls.
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Lol, remember when Jericho started using The Stroke for a few months in 2001 and called it "The Breakdown?"
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Old 06-17-2018, 02:11 AM   #56
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Jericho has some weird post steroid pecs for sure.
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Apparently he's also had a few injuries that have made it hard to work the chest properly.
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Apparently he's also had a few injuries that have made it hard to work the chest properly.
I don't doubt it. It looks like there's a problem with his chest. Kind of weird though, you don't nec. need to work your chest super hard to have some definition.... but he's not lean.
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Old 06-17-2018, 10:39 AM   #59
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Apparently he's also had a few injuries that have made it hard to work the chest properly.
Anyone remember hearing about Jericho ripping his pecs? That's what it looks like when steroid users rip a muscle and doesn't have surgery to reattach the muscle.
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I don't remember hearing about him ripping his pecs, but I do remember Brian Last pointing out that Jericho's chest looks weird on Cornette's podcast, and Lance Storm took exception and said "he's injured, you moron" or something, so Last started calling him "Cunty" Lance Storm.
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