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Old 09-25-2020, 01:21 AM   #3161
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Old 09-25-2020, 08:59 PM   #3163
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Miro and Kip already a serious contender for Most Handsome Tag Team in Wrestling.

Probably will wait until they have a match together to formally make a decision but all other handsome tag teams you are officially put on notice.
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Old 09-26-2020, 12:25 AM   #3164
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I can't believe they've debuted Miro is such an unimpressive manner. I mean, I totally can believe it (I predicted foreign hairdresser to "mock" WWE for caring about their performers' images), but they went with best friend for a wedding angle...a wedding angle...get it?
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Old 09-26-2020, 02:41 AM   #3165
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I can't believe they've debuted Miro is such an unimpressive manner. I mean, I totally can believe it (I predicted foreign hairdresser to "mock" WWE for caring about their performers' images), but they went with best friend for a wedding angle...a wedding angle...get it?
Holy shit. It's not "best friend". You're such a dumb fuck you don't even know it's "best man". Instead of commenting on U.S. media and culture, which you clearly know absolutely nothing about, you should really stick to Aussie media and culture analysis, you pathetic idiot.
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Old 09-26-2020, 01:55 PM   #3166
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Old 09-26-2020, 04:30 PM   #3167
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Old 09-26-2020, 11:31 PM   #3168
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Holy shit. It's not "best friend". You're such a dumb fuck you don't even know it's "best man". Instead of commenting on U.S. media and culture, which you clearly know absolutely nothing about, you should really stick to Aussie media and culture analysis, you pathetic idiot.
It was a fucking typo, you bitter slug. "Best man" in not a unique phenomenon to the US, but it's pretty predictable you hick cunts can't see past your own nose. It explains why you very often get knocked down on legal stuff by amateurs (and not just me) about something that is apparently your profession. I apologize for ever defending or deferring to you.

It's also pretty telling that you miss the point entirely. You're picking up on my misuse of a word because the meaning must fucking crush you. Imagine having an irrational hatred of WWE (and that's saying something, because they are a gross fucking company) to the point that you will hitch your little blue buggie to ANYTHING else. Then you defend it to a hysterical degree. Finally, you're left just insulting people for getting a word wrong in their criticism.

The point is they got handed an apparent bad-ass and misused star. Again. They made him a comedy gimmick. Again. They can't help themselves but be obsessed with WWE and STILL do bad attempts at comedy to needle at the big dog. Everything I've said about them has been absolutely right and now you know it.

You won't be a big enough man to admit it. I don't care if you do. This place has got exactly three good posters left -- Gertner, #1-wwf-fan and Destor. That's if you even consider #fan and Destor as being around anymore. Why? Because interest in wrestling is dead and at an all-time low. Why? Because wrestling is FUCKING SHIT. Top-to-bottom. There's just more of it. I just come here as a struggling wrestling addict to sort through my own thoughts. This is probably the nadir for wrestling outside of being able to find just about whatever you want from the past on the internet somewhere. And it's just nice to tell you how wrong you have been about everything AEW. They fucking suck and you know it, and you kind of even admitted it yourself.

"The Best Man" Miro...yep, the promotion where things matter. Fucking mark.
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Old 09-27-2020, 01:19 AM   #3169
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Whether you love AEW or hate it, I don’t know how you can look at how they’ve used Miro the last couple weeks and see it as anything other than objectively terrible.
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Old 09-27-2020, 05:56 AM   #3170
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Whether you love AEW or hate it, I don’t know how you can look at how they’ve used Miro the last couple weeks and see it as anything other than objectively terrible.
Completely fair post.

And I know you weren't trying to stir shit, but that's obviously why BigCrippyZ is so salty.
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Old 09-27-2020, 10:43 AM   #3171
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Old 09-27-2020, 12:35 PM   #3172
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Watching Miro in that tag match was just ridiculous.

This guy is a monster, has tons of live TV experience, and charisma. The only reason he wasn’t introduced at the top of the card was either because:

1) They are sticking to their booking plans rather than calling an audible.
2) He’s not part of the cool kids yet

Or both of the above
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Old 09-27-2020, 02:04 PM   #3173
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Watching Miro in that tag match was just ridiculous.

This guy is a monster, has tons of live TV experience, and charisma. The only reason he wasn’t introduced at the top of the card was either because:

1) They are sticking to their booking plans rather than calling an audible.
2) He’s not part of the cool kids yet

Or both of the above
Or neither of the above?

They bring him in at the top they get criticised for doing what TNA did; putting a WWE castoff over their own guys.

Or, bringing him in at the top means there’s only one way to go; down. I remember a lot of criticism about how Archer was handled when he came in and ended up losing to Cody.

Or, maybe the guy is happy doing what he’s doing? And they’re playing a longer game?

But those scenarios make me an AEW apologist...
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Old 09-27-2020, 04:03 PM   #3175
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You can bring someone in and make them look strong without putting them at the top of the card.
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Old 09-27-2020, 04:53 PM   #3176
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Yeah you can. I was responding to Pierre who specifically spoke about bringing him in at the top of the card.
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Or neither of the above?

They bring him in at the top they get criticised for doing what TNA did; putting a WWE castoff over their own guys.

Or, bringing him in at the top means there’s only one way to go; down. I remember a lot of criticism about how Archer was handled when he came in and ended up losing to Cody.

Or, maybe the guy is happy doing what he’s doing? And they’re playing a longer game?

But those scenarios make me an AEW apologist...
Why would they stop with him? Both their single championships have only been held by WWE castoffs. Not to mention Miro already has the "WWE held me down gimmick" like half of their roster. Why stop leaning into it now, when out of all the castoffs he is probably the best they have got since Moxley.

Seems like a weird guy to start taking a stand and holding back WWE guys with.
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AEW fans have to stick their fingers in their ears and go “la-la-la! I’m not listening!” and talk about “long games” and shit. Maybe the short game doesn’t need to suck in the meantime?
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multiple AEW fans are in this thread, and they've criticized AEW. You dumb fuck.
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Old 09-28-2020, 11:46 AM   #3182
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I'm a Kip Sabian fan, so I like that Miro is teaming with him. I think they "mesh well."

But this angle seems...off. I don't hate it, but it also kinda seems below Miro.

I know that doesn't make a lot of sense, but neither does Miro being used for this story.
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AEW fans have to stick their fingers in their ears and go “la-la-la! I’m not listening!” and talk about “long games” and shit. Maybe the short game doesn’t need to suck in the meantime?
I’d barely consider myself an AEW fan to be honest. I watch most weeks but skip a lot of it in the same way I do all of WWE’s product. I watch it after NXT. I don’t put a penny into the pockets of AEW. I’d hardly say I’ve got a horse in the race.

There’s plenty that sucks on both shows (I personally couldn’t give a shit about Moxley for a start).
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Old 09-28-2020, 05:20 PM   #3185
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I'm a Kip Sabian fan, so I like that Miro is teaming with him. I think they "mesh well."

But this angle seems...off. I don't hate it, but it also kinda seems below Miro.

I know that doesn't make a lot of sense, but neither does Miro being used for this story.
Yeah he's meshed well with Sabian pretty quickly in terms of their characters but his current angle feels more like early Dark Order territory.

Probably going to stumble along until it hits that wedding moment and then the angle sinks or swims afterwards.

Dark Order's storyline only really started to turn around for the better when the "Join the Dark Order" vignettes started to air. Then it hit a big stumbling block due to AEW pulling the trigger too fast on their big moment and had to get course corrected afterwards.
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Old 09-28-2020, 07:15 PM   #3186
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I like Sabian and Miro together. I don't care for this best man gimmick. It's weird and I don't see the endgame. I think the idea of not immediately pushing him to the moon is fine. But the current storyline is meh so far. I'd have liked it better if he was hired muscle.
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I’d barely consider myself an AEW fan to be honest. I watch most weeks but skip a lot of it in the same way I do all of WWE’s product. I watch it after NXT. I don’t put a penny into the pockets of AEW. I’d hardly say I’ve got a horse in the race.

There’s plenty that sucks on both shows (I personally couldn’t give a shit about Moxley for a start).
Moxley's reign has been mostly unforgettable. I would like to think it would be better if it wasn't for the pandemic, but I can't make a single good promo he has given, and he has done all the same goofy shut he hated so much. Tricking Jericho out of a car, a eye patch gimmick, a different injury angle that wrote him off TV right after he won the title, being off a few weeks a different time because of covid, and a bunch of matches that didn't feel like he was in any real danger.

Jericho was awesome as champion, everything he did felt big. Nothing Moxley has some since winning the title has felt any more important than when he was Intercontinental Champion in WWE.
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Moxley proved how overhyped he is way back in 2016.
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Old 09-29-2020, 11:21 PM   #3189
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Kip and Miro together is fine. I just hope they don’t make Miro the dumb muscle like Wardlow and Hager. We all know he’s well beyond that in his career and it would be a huge step backwards for him.
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Old 09-30-2020, 08:26 AM   #3190
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Moxley proved how overhyped he is way back in 2016.
Only two types of people would have this opinion of Moxley:
1) Those that haven't bothered to see his any work after he left WWE
2) Those who are willfully ignorant and pick and choose stuff just to conform to their negative views of him.

Maybe three types if you include those who didn't bother to care about anything he's mentioned about his time in WWE since he laid out the issues he had with the company that affected his work there and why he left when he did.
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Old 10-02-2020, 02:50 AM   #3191
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Only two types of people would have this opinion of Moxley:
1) Those that haven't bothered to see his any work after he left WWE
2) Those who are willfully ignorant and pick and choose stuff just to conform to their negative views of him.

Maybe three types if you include those who didn't bother to care about anything he's mentioned about his time in WWE since he laid out the issues he had with the company that affected his work there and why he left when he did.
Get off the shaft, Smeat. He shat the bed in 2016 with Brock, with Jericho, with Austin and got outshined by Styles. He's shat the bed in AEW. He's boring as fuck and a wannabe bad-ass that can't sell or throw a good working punch.

There are two types of people who present this underdeveloped opinion of Moxley as fact:

1) People who are so far up Meltzer's ass that they don't have any critical faculties of their own.

2) Modern fans without any sense of taste that are making it harder and harder for new people to get into wrestling.

Fuck you, Smeat.
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Old 10-02-2020, 03:20 AM   #3192
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Old 10-02-2020, 04:35 AM   #3193
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In the minority, but I loved his WWE feud with Jericho
That's fair, but at least you admit that you are in the minority and are not airbrushing history and making it all WWE's fault and it was actually really good just because Jon Moxley was in it and Jon Moxley is awesome, because he says so and explained why it wasn't his fault he sucked on a podcast.

He basically had the same feud with Jericho in AEW, but with a car instead of a pot plant.
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I had a blast being there live. I almost want to get tix for the anniversary show in Jax next week but short notice screwed me over since I have a doctor apt and I wouldn't be able to leave til late Monday.

Full Gear a few weeks later was much better live too.
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Maybe three types if you include those who didn't bother to care about anything he's mentioned about his time in WWE since he laid out the issues he had with the company that affected his work there and why he left when he did.
What are you referring to? I don't remember him talking about WWE at all since he left.

Oh and by "at all" I mean he hasn't stopped crying about it in every interview or podcast he has done for the last 18 months.

It's almost like Tony Khan has given a specific directive to about a dozen people (no matter what, be sure to say how bad it is to work for WWE, but how AEW is the bestest job you ever had).
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Its like people get mad that they are happier elsewhere. Shit jobs happen. Something better comes along, it is easy to look back at the toxic environment left behind and remember things like that.

Strange to me also that people pay attention to something they dislike so much.
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Wrestling fans follow wrestling. More bad wrestling flooding the marketplace is a bad idea. I can’t believe some people still can’t get this.
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