10-12-2018, 10:45 PM | #2281 |
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I can explain why the Impact viewership is down. Internet wrestling fans are nerds. We live in a bubble. We talk to each other and reverberate the same, often completely misguided, opinions to each other. There are people who thought the "Woken" Matt Hardy stuff would be huge. Why? Because nerds on the nerdiest corners of the wrestling's internet forums liked it, because they have been brow-beat into liking shit just because it's not the bland vanilla they are being served up by WWE.
But they confuse dog shit with chocolate. All the time. "Broken" Matt fucking SUCKED. He was a weird-sounded goof with putting on a weird voice saying words over and over again playing with a drone. It was bush league as fuck and the only people who like that sort of thing are the only people who like that sort of thing. Wrestling nerds. Some of them are in the business, some of them are on the message boards, but NO ONE outside that cares. Impact Wrestling SUCKS. It is awful. It has been that way for years, and it was that way when it was officially TNA, and the combined efforts of the brain trust over there literally -- fuck, not even decimated, that means destroying 1 in 10 -- they destroyed 9 in 10 of their fans. And it is awful now. Eddie Edwards and Sami Callihan had a fight to Final Cut Pro mood music. It's bush league. Hey, just like Broken Matt Hardy. That worked though, right? Wrong. They had about 300,000 viewers then, and all the people it appealed to never made a damn bit of difference. By the way, The Hardy Boyz return at WrestleMania 33 and that YouTube video has more hits in a hour than all of the Broken stuff ever got put together. We live in a bubble. We get excited about stuff. It's cute. But it does not reflect reality. TNA is still fucking terrible. It's still burning out its audience and it still has no clue what it really wants to be, and the stuff it is sure about SUCKS. Eli Drake, Sami Callihan and Eddie Edwards, Moose, Don Callis on commentary (probably) -- it's awful. I saw one YouTube clip and it made me want to punch my computer it was that bad. And when people watch that on TV, they think "Oh, this is fucking awful. Isn't wrestling a waste of time," and they turn off their TV. TL;DR: TNA is losing viewers because it continues to suck. Bad television turns people off. |
10-12-2018, 10:49 PM | #2282 |
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Fucking Vince Russo with a new podcast. I liked Matt Koon enough too. "It was all about getting ratings, bro!" How did that go for ya, you fucking dumb cunt?
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10-13-2018, 12:41 AM | #2283 | |
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10-13-2018, 12:55 AM | #2284 | |
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As Ive also said you really don't understand how bad 2017 was. The lone bright spot for the company last year was Eli Drake. With your opinion of Eli Drake just think about that. |
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10-13-2018, 04:50 AM | #2285 |
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No, I'm not trying to act like the company is trying to beat WWE at anything. I'm saying that internet fans blow its effectiveness as an "active" entity to proportions it is not. We will see how many paid attendance and PPV buys or whatever BFG gets. And we'll see how long this "money" experiment lasts, because running on fumes and the goodwill towards The Jackyl is not going to last forever.
And how bad 2017 was has nothing to do with how LolTNA it is in 2018. You know what's sad? It could even get good and it'd be interesting to see if it even makes a difference. Faith has been broken. TNA has well and truly jumped the shark. I'm sure Callis tries and gets Jericho in to reciprocate lending talent for the cruise and because they're buds, if Jericho can get away with it because New Japan and Vince McMahon both still hate their guts. Well, Vince might be easing up now that they are a complete non-factor. But I imagine that gets no higher than 300,000 viewers, and the moment it reminds them that they are TNA, they will tune out. |
10-13-2018, 12:07 PM | #2286 |
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BFG has been sold out for weeks bro.
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10-13-2018, 12:57 PM | #2287 |
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Is selling out a 1,200 seat theater for your "biggest show of the year" really an accomplishment and indicator of "improvement" or "success" when your company has been around for some 15+ years?
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10-13-2018, 02:55 PM | #2288 |
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It is when the past few year they've been in Orlando not selling tickets at all. Trying to be WWE hurt the company so bad they were just filming 3 months of TV at a time and having 2 PPVs in the Impact Zone. Going back on the road and selling tickets has added so much more to the atmosphere around the their shows.
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10-14-2018, 11:00 AM | #2289 | |
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10-14-2018, 12:19 PM | #2290 |
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Welp. There you have it. Dale has decided that Noid is the deciderer on this issue. /Thread
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10-14-2018, 12:39 PM | #2291 |
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10-14-2018, 01:10 PM | #2292 |
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10-14-2018, 01:22 PM | #2293 |
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HHH also said he has an announcement later today...
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Like, I'm glad people are enjoying their wrestling. Whatever. But don't shove it down my throat as something that is changing the game when they manage to sell 1,200 tickets. They should have been doing this right from the start. That is seriously the least a wrestling promotion could do. |
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10-15-2018, 09:31 AM | #2295 |
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10-15-2018, 10:20 AM | #2296 |
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They should air the PPV WCW did in Korea
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10-15-2018, 12:35 PM | #2297 | |
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10-15-2018, 11:18 PM | #2300 |
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Attendance was down for Impact at the same venue. They couldn't get people hooked enough to come back.
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10-16-2018, 12:20 AM | #2301 |
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No doubt that ratings have a say in something but its not the be all end all anymore. If Pop drops them and they have nowhere to go than they'd have reason to be concerned. That's a possibility but Pop has been good to them and I imagine they'll give them time to shop around. I realize the ratings are low but that doesn't mean the product is bad. People have been turned off by the company in the past but if the current administration just said the hell with it they'd already sold the company by now. They've been committed to creating their own brand with thier own identity that can work with any company including WWE. I |
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I've always disliked the argument of "Well, there's something better on." That's a problem. Of course major events are going to cut into ratings a little bit, but the problem is that TNA just can't get eyeballs and can't keep the eyeballs it has on its product. Sometimes great shows aren't ratings successes, but when you've got an audience and you can't keep it, then it's not working. There's not much else to it besides that. I'm sure everybody is working hard, and that Don Callis, Scott D'Amore and Ed Nordholm or whatever his name is do care deeply about what they're doing. But it doesn't change the fact that it's not working. I don't know what working with other companies has to do with anything. That's something, like charging for tickets, TNA should have been doing years and years ago. And they've had the opportunity and burnt bridges and burnt their audience. They're "nice guys" now, but let's see how it all transpires. |
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Also, if they are #2 by default, I'm not sure if that's something to be proud of, exactly, when you consider how far they've fallen as #2. I expect too much? As in for it to be good? |
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10-16-2018, 03:34 AM | #2306 |
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If you want to break it down internationally than Impact has deals around the world as well and I'm not sure ROH has those type of deals.
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10-16-2018, 11:20 AM | #2307 |
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Sorry, Chris, but you're wrong re: Cyrus. He's a shit commentator and New Japan is well within their rights not to use him. If Jericho is so bummed out he stops working with New Japan, that's a real shame, but for him too, since it's been his best work where he get out of the WWE grind of "nothing matters." But honestly, there may not have been a billion other things for Jericho to do anyway. I could imagine him taking a break after Wrestle Kingdom anyway.
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Odd that they were going to use James Ellsworth after the BFG stuff. Like, the guy's got to work and I'm sure there wasn't "heat," but it just seems weird to be promoting a guy that might do more work with them imminently.
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Showbar is an awful name.
God, I hope there is some fire to go along with that Chris Jericho/Jim Ross story. If there was ever a time to start a new promotion, it is probably now. ROH are getting more backing from Sinclair, but it's got that stigma of its style. A new "rassling" promotion would do the scene some good. |
10-22-2018, 08:32 AM | #2317 |
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On Wrestling Observer Radio Dave Meltzer said the reason for the Daniel Cormier tryout on commentary (when it happens) is because FOX has asked for him to do play-by-play for SmackDown when it moves, as they really like him doing play-by-play for UFC.
Dave said FOX thinks Cormier will help give the product a more 'sports feel' and re-iterated that a 'sports-feel' is what FOX is indicating they want for Smackdown (translation : no more New Day/R-Truth segments) |
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slik note : wouldn't a more 'sports feel' basically be NJPW (or copying the NJPW style)?
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10-22-2018, 11:55 AM | #2319 |
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10-22-2018, 01:16 PM | #2320 |
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Tis true!
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