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09-14-2018, 11:39 AM | #42 |
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I get the feeling they think what they're doing IS episodic. Like, you have to tune in to see what happens next in the Braun vs Reigns saga. The answer is nothing. But it's like they think "they fight" suffices as story telling.
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09-14-2018, 07:40 PM | #43 | |
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Everything is just so...broad. There's nothing sharp or jutty or pinpoint about this product. I can't even say it in familiar English terms, haha. It's like if play-fighting was exaggerated to pantomime levels and everyone was an idiot. Whens someone hears queued music play, they'll turn their whole body around, lose their fighting stance, and spread their legs so someone can roll them up. The recaps actually read like these "and then wrestler (x) cut a promo, while wrestlers (y) stood there and listened to the promo, but then wrestlers (a) came out and beat up wrestlers (y) who let them, then wrestlers (a) were in the back and got arrested for "breaking the law" and wrestlers (a) cracked bad jokes..." It's fucking gone. I don't know when it happened, but everything's gone. The working element is one of the worst parts of current WWE, and no one really talks about it. They act as if the matches are great, but they're all these illogical trope-filled bore-fests where they give themselves away all the time. If the booking suddenly got good, you'd still have that problem. |
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09-15-2018, 12:32 PM | #44 | |
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What if they don’t go to a show local to them and something big happens? There might only be a slim chance of something big happening, but there’s still a chance. There’s always the hope that another “CM Punk Pipe Bomb” or “Nexus Attack” might happen at the show that you’re at, even if they are the most recent ones that come to mind for me. |
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09-15-2018, 01:32 PM | #45 |
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Half these angles would get over a shit ton more if the guys could cut better promos, instead of the pre-produce stuff today with no emotion.
Newstead and I were talking about Don Muraco last night on facebook messenger so I went back and watched the Rogers Corner that started their legendary feud. Watch how awesome Muraco is at getting himself over as this loudmouth, obnoxious slob. A simple angle that turns into an amazing one because Muraco believes what he's saying. Listen to that pop after Snuka goes after him. Pure emotion. This is Muraco standing in front of an empty ring with Vince cutting a local promo and it's better than anything on Monday night Last edited by Bad News Gertner; 09-15-2018 at 02:45 PM. |
09-15-2018, 05:02 PM | #46 |
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Wrestling in the late 90’s was interesting. There was always something going on. You felt like random people might come down an interrupt a match. Matches went longer than 10 minutes. Even if the product is better, the attention span of wrestling fans can only go so far. There are some days wear I like the pacing of the product today but most days I just want to see the chaos from the 90’s
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09-15-2018, 06:26 PM | #47 |
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Matches in the late 90s did not go 10 minutes regularly, not on Raw anyway.
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09-15-2018, 11:46 PM | #48 |
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My bad. I meant to put shorter
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09-16-2018, 04:52 AM | #49 |
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Outside of the fact that they're on the Network instead of cable, at least to me in recent years, most of the Network/PPV events feel and are too much like any other Raw or SD and vice versa. For example, Wrestler A pins Wrestler B in a match on a PPV, and Cole screams about what a big shock or deal it is. However, it doesn't really matter because we just watched the two wrestlers trade wins back and forth in the same fashion on Raw/SD for the last several weeks or months. So in the end, it's all meaningless and nothing really happens, let alone is interesting.
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09-16-2018, 05:07 AM | #50 |
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The sweet release of death.
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09-16-2018, 01:49 PM | #51 | |
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09-16-2018, 01:51 PM | #52 |
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Really don't think "Steve Austin says I'm the best and you fans are all trash!" or whatever cliche some overpaid TV writer would have come up with would have been as iconic as what the guy just channeling an over-the-top version of his own unique personality came up with.
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09-16-2018, 01:55 PM | #53 |
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Hell, imagine a coked up Savage or Hogan or Warrior or a hungover Flair just focusing on reciting some lines from today's writers instead of doing their thing? FUUUUUUCK.
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09-16-2018, 04:15 PM | #54 |
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The problem also being instead of an eclectic group of characters a la the circus you have boring straight forward athlete types on strict CrossFit regimes in bed by 9.
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09-16-2018, 04:17 PM | #55 |
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And it always seems they are trying to play a character versus that is who they actually are throw scripted promos on top of that and it’s death, at least creatively, to a product.
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09-16-2018, 04:17 PM | #56 |
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The lack of cocaine in wrestling has hurt promos more than anyone will ever give it credit for.
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09-16-2018, 04:25 PM | #57 | |
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You talk about a higher power, well, I'm now the higher power and I've just beaten you so badly that you'll be praying for it to never happen again! You're not what you used to be Jake. I'm the King Of The Ring and you're just a loser, like every other WWF Superstar in the back! As for tonight's WWF Championship match, I don't care who wins because I'm gonna destroy the champion when the time comes and be your WWF Champion! Trust me on that!" |
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09-16-2018, 04:25 PM | #58 |
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If I ran a rassling fed there would be mandatory cocaine
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09-16-2018, 04:26 PM | #59 |
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Would be random drug checks to make sure that they ARE on drugs
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09-16-2018, 04:28 PM | #60 |
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09-16-2018, 04:56 PM | #61 | |
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Closet WWE ever got to having another JR & Austin type connection was with Cole and Cena. Problem is Cole comes off a lot as a poor man's JR and it made very little sense when he was a heel commentator. |
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09-16-2018, 07:44 PM | #62 |
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09-17-2018, 10:04 AM | #63 |
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I think John Cena will live forever.
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09-17-2018, 07:27 PM | #64 |
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I don't care who WWE pushes, what I want is LOGIC.
Example, Braun and Becky now being heels because WWE said so, is not logical. Finn Balor putting paint on one night and being the most dominant guy in the company, then not putting the paint on again for another 9 months, that is not logical. Taking a guy who was an amazing heel, and turning him face on the main roster because he has a great entrance theme so he is obviously a good person, not logical. Building a woman as an unstoppable warrior for 3 years, just to have her tap out in 5 seconds to put over a woman who they then had lose 2 fucking days later to a former manager that can BARELY wrestler, is not fucking logical. Having two guys who have walked away from everything including ambulance crashes, lay motionless after 1 spear for 10 minutes while 5 run ins happen, Holy Hell in the Cell is that not logical! That is what I want. |
09-18-2018, 06:57 AM | #65 | |
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Wrestling has pretty much always operated under "niche fandoms". WWE's success has become one of their biggest hinderances. |
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09-20-2018, 12:06 PM | #66 |
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09-20-2018, 12:49 PM | #67 |
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09-20-2018, 01:22 PM | #69 |
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09-20-2018, 01:51 PM | #71 |
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The cow is from a farm I got 1/4 of a cow from. Delicious. Cheap.
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09-20-2018, 09:37 PM | #72 |
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