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Old 02-12-2021, 04:07 PM   #41
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It's sad that they need camera cuts to make their shit look realistic.

Yeah. Then I go back to Shinsuke v Zayn in NXT and think.... wtf?
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Old 02-12-2021, 10:35 PM   #42
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What I gather from this thread is that Raw went to 3 hours in 2012.

I thought that was what stopped me from watching. However I feel like it hasn’t been 9 years since I stopped watching...

I think it was just not being impressed with the new talent. They were all so green, and clearly needed more time.
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Old 02-13-2021, 01:27 AM   #43
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I stopped watching regularly at around 2016. Every once in a while I'll flip it on. I don't remember it being this bad. It's jarring. I feel like I'm gonna a get motion sickness watching this shit. I watched the Men's Rumble a couple of weeks ago and couldn't believe the amount of cuts. For the fucking Rumble! Which is completely unnecessary.

There's so many other options nowadays that weren't around even 10 years ago that there's little need to go back.
It is really jarring to watch a WWE show again. Even with crowds it was so quiet, sterile and choppy.
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Old 02-14-2021, 08:56 PM   #44
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Slow burn process...

-Around 2003, things seem to be slowing down a lot and went from "must see" to "I'll catch it if I'm in tonight"

-I spent the last 12 years working jobs that had me needing to be asleep before 7PM, so anything primetime was mostly ignored.

-Like others were saying, no real build up of new stars... or NXT building them up, and then getting the 'special' washed off of them till you couldn't give a shit anymore.

-I had still kept up through youtube and dirt sheets (well rumor sites like TPWW), but think the last 3-4 years I really don't remember anything that happen, so think that's were I really gave up.
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Old 02-15-2021, 03:36 AM   #45
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Yeah. Then I go back to Shinsuke v Zayn in NXT and think.... wtf?
Yeah, we're in an abusive relationship with WWE. We slog through weeks/months/years of shit to get the next Shinsuke v Zayn or Walter vs Dragonov matches we crave, or someone getting signed that we don't expect like Nakamura or AJ Styles or the entirety of UE because we think "hey, maybe they're turning a corner... they'll change!"

And then we get punched in the eye with more commercial breaks. More backstage segments. More camera zooms that enduce motion sickness. More camera cuts to "create" action where there already is action. More soulless pre-scripted promos. More dead-end pushes. More bullshit.

The worst part is, WWE is consistently made aware of what makes them bullshit, and at times, they even ADDRESS it. They hit the audience with "I won't hit you anymore, baby, I'll change!"... but it never goes anywhere.
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Old 02-15-2021, 03:47 AM   #46
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Old 02-15-2021, 09:54 AM   #47
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Slow burn process...
, but think the last 3-4 years I really don't remember anything that happen, so think that's were I really gave up.
Similar for me. I have like an photographic memory of almost every WWE event before WM 17. But after the Invasion I was disappointed, went to school. Lost interest for a year or so... And now I really can't remember anything WWE does. I remember a few select Mania's like when Daniel Bryan won the title and when Seth cashed in. But everything else is a total blur especially from the last 10 years or so.
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The worst part is, WWE is consistently made aware of what makes them bullshit, and at times, they even ADDRESS it. They hit the audience with "I won't hit you anymore, baby, I'll change!"... but it never goes anywhere.
The last time was the best!

We got Raw Underground for a few weeks before it disappeared and was never mentioned again and...

Retribution, who are still around every week solely to burn time and be lame.

Vince totally pleased with himself
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Old 02-15-2021, 07:26 PM   #49
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Old 02-16-2021, 12:51 AM   #50
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That's mainly what I was referring to when I posted it, but they've addressed shit before, either through commentary or directly.

Ironically, in spite of being the prime example the above feels a bit unfair.

I speculatively think the plan was for Vince to be preoccupied with the XFL and Hunter to basically get the keys to the kingdom.

The people who complained "recently" (relative - I'm talking months ago) about being "lied to" were probably actually not... the plan was to call up the NXT crop like UE and feature them and some of the lesser used main roster talent heavily in spite of not being Vinnie's cup of tea. Better to ask forgiveness than permission, since they'd be over and prob'ly moving merch by the time he'd look.

But then, full on pandemic mode happened, and live sports gatherings went away. Vince abandoned the XFL with that horrendously handled shitshow and derailed any tenative WWE plans that didn't have his consent because his attention was solely back on his baby. Back to physiques and overscripting and headset micromanagement.
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Old 02-16-2021, 09:12 AM   #51
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LMFAO Lacey Evans is pregnant with Ric Flairs baby.

Yeah yeah, she's prego in real life. Still dumb AF to take up time with this stupid shit.


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Not sure a Satanic star circle counts as being PG.

This Fiend stuff with Bliss has really gone off the deep end. Like I don't think even Lucha Underground went as absurd in direction for their storylines as this Fiend possession storyline has gone in WWE.

Started off alright, but has def gone way too far at this point. Wonder what Bray's 3rd failed incarnation will be before he's future endeavored.


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at the tease of a potential Shane McMahon vs. Braun Strowman feud in the future.

Why tho. Can we never see Shane wrestle again please?


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Also Laceyís unavailability for Mania just guaranteed Charlotte vs Asuka. Iím sure Charlotte will get the win as per usual.

Fucking YAWN already
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Old 02-16-2021, 08:10 PM   #52
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Old 02-16-2021, 08:24 PM   #53
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Started off alright, but has def gone way too far at this point. Wonder what Bray's 3rd failed incarnation will be before he's future endeavored.
I was going to say comedic horror guy but that's what his Firefly Fun House persona has mostly been.

He's already done the creepy backwoods cult leader, the creepy backwoods cult leader with supernatural powers, the comedic horror guy, and the horror film supervillain with supernatural powers.

Only thing really left is an Undertaker face-style persona with supernatural powers.
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Old 02-17-2021, 01:18 AM   #54
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Old 02-17-2021, 01:22 AM   #55
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Old 02-22-2021, 08:18 AM   #56
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according to the timeline just posted by slik in the 100k thread, i would have dropped out briefly during the botched invasion, enjoyed the early/mid 00s otherwise quite well, then eddie died, wwecw was supposed to be awesome and sucked ass, then benoit happened, by then the ruthless aggression era ended and i stopped really giving a shit. only been really interested in some of the stuff punk did and the rise of daniel bryan, the latter being the end of "really interested"
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I think the conversation is all relative. Like; they do things we don't like, or rather I don't like a bunch but i tune in because being a fan for a long time it's not that simple to just turn away. I look at what i see as what it is rather then what it should be so i'm not completely "turned off" by what they do. Take what you can get i guess.


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Old 02-22-2021, 09:46 AM   #58
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My interest lessened more and more as WWE continued to devolve into the soulless corporate brand it is now. Raw lost me a long time ago where I realized I was just watching it because it was a thing I was familiar with and it used to be good. But I wasnít enjoying it and very rarely would I look back and say ďIím glad I watched that.Ē Smackdown was really good in 2016 with Shane and Bryan as the face authority figures with Ambrose and Styles feuding over the title. That actually felt fresh and fun. And NXT was putting together a string of Takeovers that were just incredible.

Now everything is just so bland and low stakes that itís really not that fun to watch most of it.
Yes pretty much this . Iíll read the results and watch the PPVís because I have the Network but I rarely ever watch the shows anymore . Itís just the same shit over and over and over without really any substance . The backstage segments I see now are awful. And it seems like half the show is centered around wrestlers and announcers trying to be funny and itís cringe worthy . I probably stopped watching religiously around 2019. Thereís still some cool shit like I do enjoy Roman Reignsí heel run (or what Iíve seen of it ) but I canít sit through 2-3 hours of the shows anymore

I have the Network and listen to a ton of podcasts and watch stuff like dark side of the ring to get my fix . Actually someone said something on a podcast the other day that resonated with me . He said the WWE doesnít even try to create stars anymore because they want a company where everyone is replaceable . They donít want people getting over and then leaving to make money elsewhere . They want wrestlers they can recycle as needed . 100% true
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Only time I watch is after I read it first and something piqued my interest. That maybe happens 5x a year, MAYBE. Rumble I usually try to watch. Mostly NXT stuff I guess.

It’s so fucking bad though. Like forever.
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