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Old 02-19-2021, 01:59 PM   #2681
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WWE came out of the gate using Raw and Smackdown to promote NXT, putting NXT titles on main roster stars and included them in a brand war on the main roster and ultimately put NXT OVER Raw and Smackdown in the brand war. AEW had YouTube and the indies. Who exactly had the advantage of a built-in audience?
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Old 02-19-2021, 02:25 PM   #2682
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AEW had all the New Japan fans. Look at how many bought Wrestle Kingdom

That's their audience.

Little kids with their parents who watch Raw aren't watching NXT
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Old 02-19-2021, 02:46 PM   #2683
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Okay. Add New Japan to that “built-in audience” I mentioned above. That doesn’t really change anything. NXT had Raw and Smackdown. They still had the advantage. By quite a fuckton.

Not being able to get the audience to watch isn’t a point in their favor.
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Old 02-19-2021, 05:00 PM   #2684
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Neither show should be bragging about 700,000ish viewers. The difference is for the most part, NXT doesn't. Tony Khan on the other hand is on twitter thanking fans for watching all the time. It trickles down from him, and you get advanced aged announcers and wrestlers also bragging about it.

Chris Jericho and Jim Ross have been on wrestling shows that have drawn over 5 million viewers a bunch of times. They shouldn't be making such a big deal over 700,000 viewers, but they can't help themselves at this point in their careers, trying to seem relevant.

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Old 02-19-2021, 09:35 PM   #2685
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Tony Khan on the other hand is on twitter thanking fans for watching all the time.
The nerve...
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Old 02-19-2021, 09:37 PM   #2686
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WWE fanboys just talking in circles. Leave them alone. Support them if they need it. It’s dark out there man.
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Old 02-19-2021, 11:40 PM   #2687
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No real problem with Tony doing that, but like I said it trickles down, and nobody else is very cordial about it. The point being 700,000 viewers shouldn't be such a celebration.
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Old 02-20-2021, 12:54 PM   #2688
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Old 02-20-2021, 07:11 PM   #2689
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WWE came out of the gate using Raw and Smackdown to promote NXT, putting NXT titles on main roster stars and included them in a brand war on the main roster and ultimately put NXT OVER Raw and Smackdown in the brand war. AEW had YouTube and the indies. Who exactly had the advantage of a built-in audience?
Sure. I wish we had the WWE Network numbers, because Im willing to bet quite a few AEW fans watch NXT on there the next day. But no, 700k for NXT isnt impressive either.

WWEs promotion of NXT has been very quiet. Ive seen that lobbed as a criticism of them, but its obviously intentional. This is why BigCrippyZ calls me a cocksucker. But if the WWE wanted NXT to be bigger, they would make it bigger. Daniel Bryan would be wrestling on there. Theyd probably have sent AJ Styles. Youd have Rey Mysterio vs. Ricochet. It isnt hard to do any of those things. But NXT is just there to niche AEW and reaffirm the main shows value to networks. And its succeeding.

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NXT is PG and a globally recognized brand and AEW is super-niche, not PG and doesnt have anywhere near the product awareness of NXT.

NXT should be crushing them in the ratings based on those facts alone.
Id agree with that. It is the third show WWE produces in a week, obviously less of a priority than Raw or SmackDown. 700k for a primary show is worse than 700k for an auxiliary show.
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Old 02-23-2021, 05:49 PM   #2690
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1.89 million for RAW this week, a nice bump from Miz winning the title
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Old 02-23-2021, 09:12 PM   #2691
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1.89? lol is this normal now ? That is about the same or worse then they were in shitty 95
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Lol they add another high priced ex WWE and again:no change.
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Lol, 831k with the biggest signing they are likely to ever get. Cue The Price is Right loser horn. Oh well, they get what they deserve. *farts*
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Lol they add another high priced ex WWE and again:no change.
Do you think TNT cares that much as long as the show isn't losing viewers? The head-to-head is a WWE show (not a main one, but still) and AEW usually "wins." Network has to see that as a positive, right?
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I don't think TNT is comparing AEW ratings to WWE outside of NXT. AEW consistently beats or comes 2nd to every non news show on Wednesday nights. They are doing great. It takes time to build an audience, obviously AEW has been in or around the same numbers since the beginning but as the roster and stories evolve, so will the ratings. For better or worse. WCW didn't "compete" with WWF for about 6 years until they finally overtook them in brand recognition and ratings. I think being on TNT is a better station for audience growth than WWE which has proved to decline massively over the years. AEW has maintained their audience from the beginning where WWE in the past year alone has lost a significant portion of theirs, as they have every year for the last 20 years.
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With that said obviously WWE is banking more money than ever on their tv deals because the state of cable tv is shuddering in the wake of streaming services as viewers are escaping the chains of cable subscription service in droves. In five years can we imagine what the torrential waters in the sea of tv viewership will look like? Radio was once king, then over the air, then satellite, then cable, then the cords were cut and now we have a monthly announcement of the next over the top service for programming. Really what will be the place for live tv in 5 years?
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