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Old 11-29-2018, 07:18 PM   #1
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Keith Lee and Steve Dijak are horrible

Both of them are big and Keith Lee is fat as well but they do flip flop like monkeys as if they are cruiserweights. I don't know why marks these days are so fascinated by flips that they now like wrestlers like Keith Lee and Dijak who shouldn't be doing this.
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Old 11-29-2018, 07:25 PM   #2
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Franco, you should do a weekly hot take thread. Give it a catchy name. I'm so down.


Anyways, I don't 100% disagree with you. You can still be a mobile big/fat man without trying to emulate Rey Misterio. See: Stan Hansen. Even Vader and Bam Bam went to the top, but the majority of their offense was bruising big man stuff.

And the only Keith Lee move I really like his his pounce.
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Old 11-29-2018, 07:27 PM   #3
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I don't get how Keith Lee can be all telling people to bask in his glory and be a face...... feel like that is a very arrogant heel thing to do.....
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Old 11-29-2018, 07:36 PM   #4
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I hate Keith Lee.....I mean just look at his face during the matches.....He's like as if he's doing all of us a favour by wrestling. This man is gonna be a big flop on MR (given he gets there)
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Old 11-29-2018, 11:43 PM   #5
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Haven't seen either of them in NXT but I wasn't really impressed by their runs in ROH.
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Old 11-30-2018, 04:18 AM   #7
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I watched only one match of Steve Dijak and that was against Ricochet. I wasn't really a fun of his flipping and jumping like a monkey.
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Old 11-30-2018, 04:27 AM   #8
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Keith Lee has not been showcased very well or allowed to do much in NXT really

He was freaking incredible in EVOLVE and PWG imo
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Old 11-30-2018, 04:38 AM   #10
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MockR8r0ris

This is probably the worst 2 minutes of wrestling I have watched all week. Even worse than RAW and that's saying something. I don't know what they see in Lars Sullivan. If anything, he looks like the next Snitsky
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Old 11-30-2018, 06:18 AM   #11
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Two brick shithouses smashing the shit out of eachother is a pretty great time if you ask me.

Sounds like you've got a touch of the gay, son.
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:27 AM   #12
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I had never seen either of them wrestle before, but that wasn’t bad at all. Keith Lee seems legit
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:57 AM   #13
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Yeah not the best link to bring up if you're deriding the guy. Was pretty good. Could do without the springboard stuff but mostly just two big guys smashing each other.
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Old 11-30-2018, 01:02 PM   #14
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I haven't seen much of either, but I like Lee's presence. Steve Dijak is Donovan Dijak, right?
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This is probably the worst 2 minutes of wrestling I have watched all week. Even worse than RAW and that's saying something. I don't know what they see in Lars Sullivan. If anything, he looks like the next Snitsky
That was a good clip bro.
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Why'd they name him Steve?
They really shouldn't have changed his name. I can see him being a big player in the next couple of years.
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Old 11-30-2018, 02:05 PM   #18
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I don't know why people liked that fat Lee jumping and flipping like a monkey. Lars Sullivan is more like Snitsky rather than Braun Strowman.
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Old 11-30-2018, 07:50 PM   #19
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They really shouldn't have changed his name. I can see him being a big player in the next couple of years.
Should have just gone with Dijak, they'll drop the Steve if he gets to the main roster I'd hope.
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:09 PM   #20
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They have now changed his name and its worse than Steve Dijak: Donovan Dijakovic
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:22 PM   #22
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They wanted it to sound more Croatian or whatever Balkan state his parents belonged to.
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He's never jumped out at me, but that might be because I see him as an ROH opening card guy and I've never moved past that emotionally.
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If they want Keith Lee to really take off they should change his gimmick to chubby, boisterous Officer Carl Winslow. Pull Lio Rush's pants up to his armpits & give him a pair of dorky glasses to make him Officer Carl's mouthpiece, licence



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When I google Steve Dijak, Steve Jobs' pics show up.
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The problem with Dijak is that in ROH, he was a big and "imposing" guy. Moved around kinda lanky, but made up for it with comparative presence. In WWE, he's just another guy that hit's Vince's height requirement. Same with Martinez. The only hope I have for DD is that he tightens up his two left feet in developmental, and maybe subs in for Sheamus in The Bar if it so happens that he has to hang 'em up sooner than later.

As for Keith Lee... I don't see it. Truthfully, I don't see it with Shane Taylor either. I couldn't tell them apart when they both showed up as a tag team in ROH, and I can't tell you why one of them ended up in NXT and the other is still in ROH. It wasn't in a "we all look alike" kind of way, it is more in a "two interchangeable, generic big guys" way. Like AoP. For specifically the "Bask In My Glory" thing, it seems so much like "Curse of Greatness" that I'm surprised he isn't lumped in with Street Profits already to make one of those 3 man stables they love so much nowadays. I mean, they're already not doing anything with Big E. Or worthwhile with Rusev. And Sanity will run its course soon enough. And again, AoP. And add Lars to that mix. There is becoming a glut of meaty dudes who are "agile for their size", and pretty soon, it will just be a thing that exists everywhere and they will all be generic.
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