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Old 05-17-2022, 11:15 PM   #1
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Old 05-17-2022, 11:23 PM   #2
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visually poor but im looking forward to it
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Old 05-17-2022, 11:51 PM   #3
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I don't understand how Marvel keep doing this shit with the CGI. Shulkie looks about as bad in this trailer as Black Panther did in his whole movie (before they went back and "touched up" his janky, cartoony movement for home release - the action scenes with him in full costume looked lazily done for the theatrical release and they got called out on it).

Are they going to go back and give this the Sonic treatment later after hordes of people bitch about it? Why not just, you know, make it look *good* to begin with?

It's almost like they weirdly WANT the negative criticisims up front, and there's a small part of me that's almost glad they cancelled Squirrel Girl if this is the benchmark they were shooting for visually.
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Old 05-18-2022, 12:19 AM   #4
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Jesus, I can normally handle bad CGI, but that is distractingly bad.
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Old 05-18-2022, 01:23 AM   #5
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Should have just painted a chick green.
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Old 05-18-2022, 01:34 AM   #6
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David Otunga with his MCU debut though
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Old 05-24-2022, 06:28 AM   #7
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David Otunga with his MCU debut though
I had to rewatch the trailer several times to make sure it was him. A bit hard to recognize without a bowtie and coffee tumbler. [/sarcasm]

Also, someone should dig up the old exploitable "selfie" looking image of him gesturing to the background and slap it on the front of this.
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Looks like woke horseshit again. I'm going to watch it though. The Peter David She-Hulk run of the early 2000s was one of my favorite runs. Super fun and goofy.
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CGI looks shitty. Hope they’re planning to refine it.
Looks super, super woke. Hopefully doesn’t get too much in the way of being an enjoyable romp.
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Honestly think Tatianna Maslany is way better than this.

By the way this is looking, probably a role for some up and coming actress.
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Thought this was a parody or something but apparently its real. Wow.
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From the rumor mill, apparently she looked better/more comic accurate at one point... but thanks to executive meddling, the artists were repeatedly told to trim down the bulk on her. The CG artists on project know this looks like shit, but have to follow the orders from on high.

I'm really thinking my Sonic theory is accurate, because that sounds super familiar.
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While its technically true the internet does love raging against the machine to the Nth degree, it doesn't necessarily mean the machine has clean hands and isn't worth raging against.

Anecdotal story: Back when KB Toys was a thing, and the initial popularity wave of G1 Pokemon was in full swing, the company had the foresight to push in heavy on the property - and in particular, the cards. Tended to be sold for more than anyone else (which, to jump in on that train, was almost everyone else in the mall; toy stores, music stores, video stores, clothing stores, shoe stores... anyone with impuse counter room that decided they wanted some of that even if it were "inappropriate" for their marketing base, they sold them), with the notion that a) more profitable, of course, and b) when everyone else runs out, they'll buy our mountain of inventory at the higher cost. And because it was such a high commodity in high demand coupled with the "holographic charizard chasing" by folks with eBay get rich quick dreams, we sold a ton.

However, the other side of that is, because it was so popular, it was unsurprisingly a high shrink item. People could just stick the packs in their pockets, but a lot of the theft was done by people who overthought about security systems, and felt they needed to open the packs in the store and hide the wrappers somewhere out of eyeshot of employees... so we ususally found these wrappers shoved in amongst the plush. Even though they were *on* the impulse counter right by the registers we still would lose a number greater than zero. It got so bad, our manager decided to display them BEHIND the counter and place signs about anyone wanting cards to ASK for them.

In comes the dumbass idea from someone in a suit in an office far removed from the store level.

We had one of our monthly storefront changes, and one section was slated to be a 4 foot section mostly populated by individual packs of pegged Pokemon cards. To add to the stupidity, we were supposed to build the company's coveted "bulk stacks" right in front, which pretty much cut off eyeshot to all this high theft, high profit merchandise to someone even standing right there in the front of the store. We weren't the only store that voiced displeasure at this obviously ill advised marketing blunder in the making, but I don't know how many actually worked against it outside of our store. Our manager initially refused. We populated the section with other Pokemon merchandise. District manager came in and made us change it. She said she gets the concern, but began threatening to write everyone up in our entire store (there or not) for insubordination if it wasn't changed to what was supposed to be there because that's what's mandated to be there.

Predictably, we lost thousands of dollars worth of that shit. Being around $10 a pack, that's a ton of shrink on our inventory. Inventory tracking wise, it was "worse" than if people came in and walked off with Playstations, because the consoles were high ticket, low profit, and would show losses of lower numbers. All things being equal, losing around 15 packs of something easily pocketable was EXACTLY THE SAME ON PAPER as someone leaving the store with one video game console. And we're losing hundreds of these things in a matter of days. Per store. Per district. Totally predictable outcome, but we "had to".

So, in a few days we get this semi-condescending sounding memo from corproate telling us to "please hold all Pokemon cards behind the counter". The thing we were doing in the first place for exactly this reason. "Shut up and do as you're told" cost untold amounts of money company wide over a car crash anyone with any sense could see coming.

That's not the only incident I've experienced like this, and that wasn't the only company I've worked for it happened in, but it is my "favorite" story that perfectly encapsulates it.

On that, I will generally side with the lower rungs on how shit really is, because in a lot of these cases, all it takes is one suit with a bad idea to fuck up a lot of things down the chain... then that same suit, to save face, will throw folks underneath to the wolves to save their own ass and/or reputation.
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Don't think that most people's problems are with the bulk.... she's been portrayed as pretty slim in the comics too...

More the face region
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Wong is contractually obligated to be in everything now isn't he?
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Wong is contractually obligated to be in everything now isn't he?
It is something to see that freaking Wong of all people is one of the more beloved and popular characters going on right now. With him and Daredevil being in this, I imagine Marvel wants as many eyeballs on it as possible.
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Also, with Wong and Blonsky being in this there'll probably something that explains their presence in Shang-Chi?
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Old 07-25-2022, 02:09 PM   #29
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I have to LOL at the fact that this is the freaking series that gets more than six episodes. To be fair, though, it does look like there's a lot to tackle judging from the trailer. They have to cover how she got her powers, how Bruce found out about her being able to turn into She-Hulk, the main antagonist (if any), the other powered people they mentioned, her personal life, Daredevil, and Wong. I can't see this being paced well with only six episodes but then again, some of the other shows should have had the same courtesy.
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She gets her powers from bruce so the first 2 are the same beat
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I think it looks like it could be fun, especially if the stories are somewhat self-contained every week. CGI still looks a little off in the trailer though.
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I don't think any show should be 6 episodes. 8 should be the standard.
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I like a show to have as many episodes as it needs. Far too many shows with saggy middles.
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agreed. The ep count should fit the narrative. If they can tell it in 4 so be it. If they need 13 fair enough
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Kind of an awkward start as it feels they rushed her origin and Mark Ruffalo comes across as wanting to get done as fast as possible. Credit for doing the 4th wall bit, though, and it does what it needs to do as far as setting the stage.
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Also, props to the show for FINALLY settling that "Was Captain America a virgin?" question that nobody was pondering. If your characters have to have conversations about subjects not pertaining to their close circle, it kind of makes it hard for me to be concerned about their close circle.
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The thing that i think is important is that this ohase was penned before the fox merger. They went into their C and D tier and planned to do what was then the best option. Once we're through this theyre going to have A and B tier level heroes to build up and get us hyped again. Couple that and the growing realization that "the message" is being rejected with consumers wallets and i think phase 5 will get back on track with stories and characters that more organic and relatable.


(That said im looking forward to She Hulk.)
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I think my interest died when it became obvious that the performance and writing quality in the new additions/storylines have been substantially lower than the previous phases.
When they make better shows for the lower characters in the original stories than they do movies for the new ones the real problem is that we still want the original characters to have more to do with it than any new people. The very thought of new people taking centre stage annoys me and has done since Captain Marvel turned up.

The chemistry isn’t there with so many new folk all at once. Loki and F&WS were great because they kept the new folk down to supporting status. Introduce all newcomers through OG interactions.
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I agree with to an extent. They have to try to get these characters over one way or another. A rub from an established character is useful but you also dont want to spend guardians 3 doing an origin story for Werewolf by Night. The series model is a decent way to have these weaker characters be able to launch onto the big screen without bogging down the film they're in.



That said American Chávez was introduced in Doctor Strange 2 and was well featured, even if she's a bit flat as whole. So they are doing both, objectively.



One of the major issues is this phase hasnt made its central conflict clear so nothing is unifying into a central climax. I think thats coming soon but right now everything feels disconnected.
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