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Old 01-03-2019, 02:01 PM   #81
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I'm sure he's got a few quick matches left in him. He'd be a good choice to be their first champion.
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Old 01-03-2019, 02:49 PM   #82
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All Elite Wrestling sent out a press release which notates Brandi is Chief Branding Officer and that the rally on Tuesday will be streamed live and free on YouTube.


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Keeping in true The Elite fashion, attendees can expect the unexpected as the rally will showcase the true spirit of wrestling entrepreneurialism and feature special guests, inside info and limited edition merchandise.

Fans can also watch the event rally live on the “Being The Elite” YouTube channel, as well as @AEWrestling (Twitter), /TheYoungBucks (Facebook), @TheBrandiRhodes (Instagram), and can interact socially at #AEW.
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/01...ly-livestream/
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Old 01-03-2019, 03:25 PM   #83
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Isn’t BTE their YouTube sketch comedy show? Of course he’d hate a wrestling promotion if it was like that? Why wouldn’t he?
Yeah, it's a pretty daft point to bring up.

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You could call it a scetch comedy show but its not always comedy and they use it to push storylines and big announcements like this. If Cody and the Bucks are booking the show its not to much of a stretch to think their show would be in the same light as BTE only on a bigger scale with wrestling involved.
Well, they use it for that at the moment because it's their platform. They don't necessarily have full backing from New Japan and/or ROH to promote that sort of stuff. That doesn't mean that when they do a wrestling promotion that it's philosophically going to be exactly the same. Cody, especially, seems to like trying to introduce a lot of pathos into what he's doing. I'm sure BTE is not going to go away, and it might even get its own platform, as I suggested earlier, but it's not fair to assume that just because they fuck around with a camera backstage at shows that that will be approach they take when they've actually got a budget.

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what would goldberg do for them would he be management storywise
I imagine he'll do some appearances, Spear and Jackhammer and bitch and talk about how All Elite is a new wave in wrestling people can get behind. I really don't see him going broadway with Kenny Omega or anything.

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I might actually watch that rally.
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If only we knew what would happen if they actually booked a show...

We do.

And apart from the Janella/Page thing and its aftermath, it was a damned good, decently put together show. And that debacle was the most BTE thing on the show, but it was bookmarked by better things. That was the only bad thing I have to say about the event. Everything else was great. Cody/Aldis was a great traditional match. The Six man used the limited time to produce a frantic high energy contest that was the Bucks' best work. Omega finally looked the like the big star that he has been sold as for the past couple years. They play it mostly straight, with a dumb bit on the bottom of the card, I'll be perfectly alright with it.

They know how to market in the modern age. We are not very likely to get PWG with a big budget.
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Old 01-03-2019, 05:36 PM   #86
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I'm all in on AEW.

Come on, Ted!



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If only we knew what would happen if they actually booked a show...

We do.

And apart from the Janella/Page thing and its aftermath, it was a damned good, decently put together show. And that debacle was the most BTE thing on the show, but it was bookmarked by better things. That was the only bad thing I have to say about the event. Everything else was great. Cody/Aldis was a great traditional match. The Six man used the limited time to produce a frantic high energy contest that was the Bucks' best work. Omega finally looked the like the big star that he has been sold as for the past couple years. They play it mostly straight, with a dumb bit on the bottom of the card, I'll be perfectly alright with it.

They know how to market in the modern age. We are not very likely to get PWG with a big budget.
I've got to admit to not having watched it yet. I might just to see, since your tastes seem to match up with mine. I did find it a bit ridiculous that Scurll went so long over his time, and I've heard Jericho talking about how you can see a lot of backstage stuff that needs ironing out, but that will come with time. It's also kind of endearing when things have room to grow and get better. If everything kicked ass 100% of the time immediately off the bat, how bland would everything be? You'd also have nothing outstanding to call your favorite or "the best" or whatever.
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Fuck, I just want something to happen in wrestling. It's so possible because WWE is not as invincible as people say. Like, they're not going out of business or anything, but people don't like that shit anymore. There's room for something better and preferred. And if it makes WWE actually try, then bonus.
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I hope Mark Cuban, Rick Rubin, Ted Turner, Barry Bloom, Jim Ross, Wale, Toby Keith, Billy Corgan, The Rock, Dana White, Conan O'Brien, Hulk Hogan, Barack Obama and Todd Sinclair all throw a bit of money into a big vat along with Khan's $100 million and everyone gets a piece of the pie and they have endless funds to fuck around with and pay wrestlers to be actual wrestlers.
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AEW could offer benefits to talent to help entice them over. They could offer pensions to talent who spend enough time wrestling for the promotion. Offer AJ Styles $60,000 a week for five years with 1% of his contract to be paid in order to retain licencing fees after that if he doesn't want to wrestle. Getting paid $15,600,000 over five years with a guaranteed cheque of $600 a week coming after that for as long as AEW stays in business just so they can use him in video games and documentaries or whatever would be a pretty appealing offer to me.
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AEW also doesn't need AJ Styles under exclusive contract. It's very unlikely Vince would use him, but they could gain an edge in negotiations by simply taking priority with licencing and booking dates. There's no reason they couldn't let AJ Styles still wrestle at WrestleMania as a special attraction if Vince wanted him so bad. Now, would Vince bite? Probably not and everybody knows that, but it doesn't technically need to be one or the other.
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Tony Khan is a good looking man.
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Like, it's bullshit to judge this from people's photos, but he seems "nice" too. Like he's genuinely happy to meet and hang out with athletes. From a PR perspective, he comes off a lot more sincere than the McMahons.
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That could end up being his downfall if AEW becomes successful enough to actually go up against Vince. The McMahons are where they are because they’re not nice. They’re ruthless bastards.
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Dad is the coolest looking majority owner in all of the big 4 pro leagues

Eat your heart out, Vince. Your family is only worth 2.5 billion? lolol!
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I find it.. amusing a guy that runs an NFL team is competing in wrestling with a wrestling company that's trying to compete with the NFL.
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1. Billionaires don't get that way by throwing a bunch of money around. How fast does Khan pull the plug when they lose $20 Million.
2. The Jaguars suck, they have the lowest attendance in the NFL, but this dude is gonna run a wrestling company that draws? He can't even draw is his main business.
3. I was looking forward to this, but the amount of people nutting in their pants over how amazing this is gonna be is already annoying me.
4. Good for the wrestlers finding another ATM owner. They convinced this Mark to pony up money just like Anthem, and Panda Energy before that, and Ted Turner before that.
5. Good for the non wrestlers past their prime like Jim Ross getting one more run and collecting a paycheck.

Can't wait until Vince Russo gets the book and Hulkamania tries to run wild...
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The old XFL wasn't trying to compete with the NFL. Is the new one?
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I've seen some people express concerns about the Bucks booking their own promotion, saying they'll try to get themselves over, etc.

I dunno, guess I must've missed that Jado IWGP Heavyweight Title run.
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Yeah the thing that bothers me about this promotion is that they are going to be booking themselves. That usually ends up sucking.
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Well the fact they in a time crunch during the main event of their first ever PPV they chose to cut their spots and highlight the guest stars more says a lot about their priorities. Of course keeping the Young Bucks brand alive is important but I don't think they are going to be mark booking themselves like Hogan or something.
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I don't particularly like the Young Bucks at all. They're like wrestling hipsters and quite annoying. That said, I'll still check this out.
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Old 01-04-2019, 08:23 PM   #108
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I've seen some people express concerns about the Bucks booking their own promotion, saying they'll try to get themselves over, etc.

I dunno, guess I must've missed that Jado IWGP Heavyweight Title run.
I do worry that Cody and The Bucks have a disproportionately high opinion of themselves. Like, do they think it is genuinely them and their personalities that drew that crowd to All In? If they do, then that could be a problem.
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I watched a bit of that "Being the Elite" YouTube show once and it was incredibly cringe-worthy and I couldn't finish it...... so hopefully this is nothing like that.
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Am I missing anyone? I'm trying to come up with a list of who could/would join up. Bubba Ray, perhaps?
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Frankie Kazarian and Scorpio Sky will likely be involved.
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I don't particularly like the Young Bucks at all. They're like wrestling hipsters and quite annoying. That said, I'll still check this out.
I fucking hate The Young Bucks, in truth, haha. The only thing more annoying than them are their hipster fans. I hope they have plans to settle down and expand their fan-base as opposed to relying on them.

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I watched a bit of that "Being the Elite" YouTube show once and it was incredibly cringe-worthy and I couldn't finish it...... so hopefully this is nothing like that.
Yeah, what I've seen from BTE is awful.
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Is Jericho good these days or has he become cringe-worthy? Last I saw of him he was doing a Shannon Moore gimmick and also using curse words..... not my cup of tea.....
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Has Jericho said he will be in this or is that just Internet Speculation?
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It's just speculation, but it's fairly strong speculation. Jericho has dropped hints, etc. Plus he was part of the initial news. I think Jericho is much better in New Japan than he is in WWE. He gets to play pro-wrestling heel there, as opposed to sports entertainment comedian.
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Nakamura did an interview with Sports Illustrated where he said that most of the WWE's main roster is underrated and they don't get to show it on TV. It obviously doesn't mean much and the question as to who is underrated could lead to that answer, but it certainly adds fuel to the speculation that Nakamura might be frustrated with creative limitations.
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I'd just like them to get a good roster started and bring back a decent tag team division.

Please don't rush a women division (their marketer and britt being the only gals right meow).

Main title, 2nd title, Tag
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Emphasizing tag teams would make a lot of sense since WWE nor New Japan really puts emphasis on that. They've already got The Young Bucks and Daniels & Kazarian. It's likely Gallows & Anderson could end up there and also The Revival whenever their deals are up. I'd like it if they worked out something with ROH and had The Briscoes show up there. Jim Cornette is done with managing, but I'd like it if he were a "sponsor" of The Briscoes and got to cut some promos on The Bucks.

Women are going to be a part of this from the get-go. I think they are going to have to work out deals with a bunch of promotions. There's that Women of Wrestling thing starting up, which seems largely built around Tessa Blanchard. Is there a way to get around her TNA involvement? Jazz had a great women's match at the NWA 70th show. Kiera Hogan is a name I constantly hear. Amazing Kong has some exposure thanks to GLOW. I'd throw money at Gail Kim and Molly Holly to come in and work as veterans. Meiko Satomura had a good run in the Mae Young Classic. You can probably bring in Nicole Matthews. Santana Garrett has got babyface potential. There's stuff you can do.
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Those folks who know who to talk to seem to be saying that the AEW contracts are competitive with WWE, and have been described as "WCW level." This isn't really surprising given how much money the Khans have and how much they want TV networks and other potential business partners to know it.

Guys with their contracts up or coming up are in an excellent position for themselves. And I do stand by my bold prediction that AJ Styles could very well jump. The Khans were about to spend $800 million on a stadium. That much money is enough to pay AJ Styles $2 million for 400 years. They can back the truck up and it's important that they get perceived as big-time players when negotiating TV deals, merchandising deals, etc. If they want deals with WarnerMedia, Hasbro and the like, then looking like they can poach Vince McMahon's top guys, biggest stars and biggest merchandise movers is a great start. If it lands them a good toy deal, a video game and great slot on basic cable, then the insane amount of money they can pay Styles would be justified.

Guys like Styles, Nakamura and Omega are in a position to write themselves a blank cheque with the Khans. And that's something that Vince McMahon can't necessarily match in fear of blowing up his pay-scale. Is Omega going to be able to ask for $5 million a year if John Cena and Undertaker aren't making that much? If Omega gets $5 million, then does Styles get $5 million? What about Nakamura? How much does Becky Lynch ask for when her contract is up?

The difference between this and WCW is that the Khans don't necessarily have to build creative control into the contracts, they can learn that pushing these guys once they are way past their prime is going to chase people away, etc. And they don't need to be so focused on ratings. It's all about securing those TV rights fees and establishing those business partnerships that are going to get you visibility enough to nurture your revenue streams.

They're also a private company, so they don't need to justify the money to anyone but themselves. If Vince McMahon blows up his own pay structure and talent salaries go right up and profit margins therefore come down, investors are going to start asking questions about how vulnerable they are to other market forces.

AEW actually have a huge edge when negotiating with talent. If they decided to offer Omega, Nakamura and Styles five-year deals for $5 million a piece -- let's just go ridiculous with it -- that's $75 million between them over 5 years. But if they snagged them and got a television deal. Let's say that they manage to get something for $50 million a year. That's $250 million which is more than enough to pay off those contracts. It doesn't factor in any other expenses or revenue streams, mind you -- but it's really not insane when you're trying to get your presence felt.
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