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Old 04-11-2023, 09:12 AM   #1
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Old 04-11-2023, 10:29 AM   #2
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I'm all for it as long as they've got a better script for the character this time around.
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Old 04-11-2023, 10:32 AM   #3
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Old 04-11-2023, 02:00 PM   #4
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Already looks more interesting/entertaining than the first Captain Marvel movie, perhaps due to less Captain Marvel and more other Marvels.
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Old 04-12-2023, 07:19 AM   #8
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It has more personality already. Hopefully Kahn can breathe life into the project
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Old 04-12-2023, 09:15 AM   #9
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The choice of music is a bit on the nose, but then again so was "Just a Girl" in the first one. I'm just glad to finally see something from this project other than more news about delays.
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Looks like the same current Marvel trash they've been pumping out for the last 4 or so years. I couldn't care less
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I give it two Pakistani Booksmarts out of ten.
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Old 04-16-2023, 03:05 PM   #12
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Don’t think I’ll be catching this in the cinema. Should have been a Disney+ show.
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Old 04-17-2023, 03:57 AM   #13
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Well any hope of Moonstone being in this as I had hoped (the heroes are fighting a blonde person at the end of the teaser) got dashed as apparently it's just some rando Kree. Unless they want to do some kind of swerve or whatever.

A few things that I hope they feature because I think they need to be addressed:

1. There needs to be some kind of interaction between Carol and Maria during the latter's ordeal with her cancer. I liked their relationship in the first film and it could be a huge opportunity for some emotional bits.

2. I'd like to see how Monica's attitude towards Carol has changed, if at all, after all the events in the time since Carol left. Is she resentful? Angry?

3. If they can wiggle in some of the style that was present in the first episode of Ms. Marvel that'd be a neat callback and give Kamala a distinct identity.
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Old 04-17-2023, 09:29 AM   #14
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Looks fun! I've enjoyed all the Marvel stuff, even She-Hulk! I totally don't get the hatred for Captain Marvel/Brie Larson... whatever. This looks enjoyable.
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Looks like the same current Marvel trash they've been pumping out for the last 4 or so years. I couldn't care less

They tricked us into thinking it was going to be great.
Loki and Falcon and the Winter Soldier were way too good for this shit.
I haven’t even watched the new Ant Man and he was the best one left.

I just ain’t interested.

I will say that the new baddie turning out to be a monster IRL is pretty fucking funny considering how focused the brand has been on all the woke shit.
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Captain America fought actual Nazis and went on to have a black partner.
Carol Danvers was at the forefront of equality between the sexes.
The X-Men were an allegory for persecution.
Black Panther was Marvel's first prominent African superhero.
Stories like Civil War were used as critiques of questionable civil liberty policies.

I don't get where this idea of Marvel "going woke all of a sudden" comes from.
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On top of that, I don't even get what's supposed to be "woke" about this movie. Is it because of the three female leads? A black guy in an authoritative position? What am I missing?
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On top of that, I don't even get what's supposed to be "woke" about this movie. Is it because of the three female leads? A black guy in an authoritative position? What am I missing?
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Captain America fought actual Nazis and went on to have a black partner.
Carol Danvers was at the forefront of equality between the sexes.
The X-Men were an allegory for persecution.
Black Panther was Marvel's first prominent African superhero.
Stories like Civil War were used as critiques of questionable civil liberty policies.

I don't get where this idea of Marvel "going woke all of a sudden" comes from.
Because you think common sense morality is what woke is. But it's absolutely not about equality or punching fascists. If that was the case you'd have to explain why X23 and Mara Jade fans suddenly started hating female characters.
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Old 04-18-2023, 10:50 PM   #20
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Comics have always been influenced by cultural snd social movements. But they did it while telling great stories and not pandering to said movements. A lot of modern comics can't say the same.
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Bingo. The subtext is not only text, but poorly expressed text. It's unattractive and clearly lacking the draw of older work (Marvel and DC comics attempts at woke did not translate to sales, Phase had the most woke integrated into projects and became a polarizing era for MCU).

And it's an irradiated element now. Ms Marvel simply looks woke on paper and suffered for it despite, imo, being one of the better MCU TV shows. I fear the same will happen with Marvels. Almost certainly gonna happen with Star Wars with what we may as well call Disney SW Phase 2. I'm particularly interested in Acolytes but it might not pull numbers because the cast is a red flag and it shouldn't.

But back to the point, there's a clear difference in story telling and tho people can't articulate it, they can smell it. And they're turning their nose.
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There is supposedly a Young Avengers project in the plans, but if there is I'd like it to consist of Kamala, Riri Williams, Cassie Lang, and Kate Bishop. It needs a dude, but I'm drawing a blank on who it could be, outside of Peter Parker.

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That actually brings up a point.

Has the MCU introduced a new young male hero in that age group? Spider-Man is kind of within that age group but I doubt he'll head up the teen league. Red Dagger? Maybe the IM3 kid could be Iron Lad? Patriot?
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They could try to work in Elijah Bradley. They kind of missed out by not doing New Warriors.
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Captain America fought actual Nazis and went on to have a black partner.
Carol Danvers was at the forefront of equality between the sexes.
The X-Men were an allegory for persecution.
Black Panther was Marvel's first prominent African superhero.
Stories like Civil War were used as critiques of questionable civil liberty policies.

I don't get where this idea of Marvel "going woke all of a sudden" comes from.
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On top of that, I don't even get what's supposed to be "woke" about this movie. Is it because of the three female leads? A black guy in an authoritative position? What am I missing?
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Because you think common sense morality is what woke is. But it's absolutely not about equality or punching fascists. If that was the case you'd have to explain why X23 and Mara Jade fans suddenly started hating female characters.
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Comics have always been influenced by cultural snd social movements. But they did it while telling great stories and not pandering to said movements. A lot of modern comics can't say the same.
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**EDITED*** I don't want an argument. I just want my Captain Marvel sequel, which I am finally getting.

Intellectual cowardice is big right now too, fancy not arguing about that?
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Ultimately everyone's reasons for not liking something are there own. I have strong feelings about the subject, but at the end of the day I don't really feel like browbeating people who aren't on my side of the matter. I figure people have enough going on in their lives without me piling on.
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**EDITED*** I don't want an argument. I just want my Captain Marvel sequel, which I am finally getting.
Our posts were more in response to your first statement. We don't know yet if Marvels will face the same problems, but I like the trailer.

My only real disappointment is the villain apparently being another random kree, instead of moonstone.
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Moonstone, the Dr. Sofen version, would've been great because they could have worked the psychological antagonist into it. I brought this up before, but imagine Carol being required to have sessions with Sofen as some condition of service or whatever, unknowingly revealing Kree secrets and personal issues that can be used against herself. Plus, if they're going with the angle of Carol being this beloved public figure, but having trouble dealing with that kind of thing, you could have Sofen not just jealous of Carol, but angry with her. Like, she's a sociopath, so she wouldn't be able to understand what Carol has to complain about. I had even thought of this line that she could throw at Carol: "Here's the real definition of insanity; it's having everything, AND THEN WHINING ABOUT IT!" A bit much, sure, but she's a bad guy.

I mean, that's the approach I would have taken, but we also don't know how much this ties into Secret Wars, if at all.
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I says before and I stand firm on this: The villain or at least sub-villain in a Cpt Marvel sequel should be Rogue. For obvious reasons.
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Rogue as the villain of the marvels, with mystique manipulating her from the shadows.
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I mean, that's the approach I would have taken, but we also don't know how much this ties into Secret Wars, if at all.
Fuck, I meant Secret Invasion. I don't know why I mix the two up.
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