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Old 04-12-2023, 05:08 PM   #41
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He was the first champion and they made a big deal out of what a big achievement it is. He has been around for years. Heís not going to magically catch fire when nothing about him has really changed. I guess he wears leather pants and mainly reps purple now.
It was also 7 years ago. And a championship with no lineage. And a belt design that people hated. And again, it lasted less than a day.

Iím not actually advocating for Finn Balor World Champion or even that he definitely should have beaten Edge but heís never been used to his full potential. Heís had stop-start booking and some of the worst creative in the last 10 years (original debut of The Demon King, that whole thing with Sister Abigail, the way he lost to Roman, mostly anything with The Demon).

Take a look at Sami Zayn for a guy on the roster with enough short comings to deny him access to the top of the card that managed to catch fire.
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Old 04-12-2023, 05:56 PM   #42
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It was also 7 years ago. And a championship with no lineage. And a belt design that people hated. And again, it lasted less than a day.

Iím not actually advocating for Finn Balor World Champion or even that he definitely should have beaten Edge but heís never been used to his full potential. Heís had stop-start booking and some of the worst creative in the last 10 years (original debut of The Demon King, that whole thing with Sister Abigail, the way he lost to Roman, mostly anything with The Demon).

Take a look at Sami Zayn for a guy on the roster with enough short comings to deny him access to the top of the card that managed to catch fire.
I donít think any of those points negates what Destor said. He didnít click 7 years ago, hasnít really in the past 7 and probably wonít in the next. At least not with a kayfabe win over Edge.

Heís not horrible or anything, but itís Finn Balor, dude. The best thing about him for the first 8 years of his WWE run was his entrance. Itís possibly topped by him being a sneaky assist to Dominik Mysterio.
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Old 04-12-2023, 05:59 PM   #43
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I’d argue that Balor has actually been pushed too hard over the years. The guy’s a meaty edition to a cruiser division. They’ve tried and tried again to push him as a guy on the upper-mid/main event level.
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Old 04-12-2023, 06:06 PM   #44
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I'm just glad he's a heel.... he just looks "slimy" and always has, so him going heel was best all around. Plus he's getting showcased more than he would if he was a face. If he was face he would totally be Ricochet/million other guys who are "just there".
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Old 04-12-2023, 09:50 PM   #45
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He is much more useful as a heel. The dude looks like he’s aged a lot in the past couple of years too.
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Old 04-13-2023, 03:03 AM   #46
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I love Finn and all but what's the point of pushing him if you got the better version of Finn Balor on the roster already in AJ Styles.
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Old 04-14-2023, 12:54 AM   #47
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AJ Styles is a well travelled 46 year old that is now heavily leaning on his indy cred to get by in basic boring WWE style matches now which are mostly 5 minute throw-aways that do nothing and inspire or awe no one.

Finn's still got TIME to build, carry and pass the torch. AJ Style's time is just running out.
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Old 04-14-2023, 03:20 AM   #48
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And I am a big AJ Styles fan and not a hater but there is no doubt his quality of work has significantly decreased and even his presence on RAW's or SD's or PPV's is inconsistent at best and significantly degraded since his debut in 2016.

He literally is just going through the motions on live WWE TV giving the bare minimum fucks when that MOFO used to tear up the high school gymnasiums and bingo halls wrestling any half decent indy wrestler and carrying them to a 3-4 star match for 20 minutes or more. That is passion! This is just sad, poorly booked WWE AJ Styles whose making BIG money wrestling in front of the largest crowds of his career but is utterly apathetic to his wrestling matches being anything special.
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Old 04-14-2023, 04:20 AM   #49
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Balor’s just a couple of years behind AJ and has never been as interesting as AJ then or even AJ now. There’s more than just going in there and hitting shotgun dropkicks.
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Old 04-14-2023, 08:10 AM   #50
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And I am a big AJ Styles fan and not a hater but there is no doubt his quality of work has significantly decreased and even his presence on RAW's or SD's or PPV's is inconsistent at best and significantly degraded since his debut in 2016.

He literally is just going through the motions on live WWE TV giving the bare minimum fucks when that MOFO used to tear up the high school gymnasiums and bingo halls wrestling any half decent indy wrestler and carrying them to a 3-4 star match for 20 minutes or more. That is passion! This is just sad, poorly booked WWE AJ Styles whose making BIG money wrestling in front of the largest crowds of his career but is utterly apathetic to his wrestling matches being anything special.
You said it in your previous post. He's 46. His body probably can't keep up with the matches he used to have.

Thats fine though. Dude gave us two decades of incredible matches. Let him have his victory lap.
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Old 04-14-2023, 03:28 PM   #51
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Edge beating Styles was fine too. I want Styles vs. Gunther pretty bad.
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Old 04-15-2023, 01:08 PM   #52
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I wonder what the whole Edge with JD would have looked like if they’d not put him off with the “spooky bollocks” shortly before HHH came to power? Often think it’d be the most interesting read/watch if they did a book/show about what the plans were before they had to change direction on certain booking.
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Old 04-15-2023, 04:42 PM   #53
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We provably would have just gotten Heel Edge vs. Face Finn.
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Would Hard time Dom ever joined the judgement day if Edge was still in charge?
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Old 04-15-2023, 06:04 PM   #55
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Yeah, I think so. We’d just get Edge vs. Rey Mysterio instead of them teaming.
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Would Dom still do Hard Time?
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Old 04-16-2023, 08:31 AM   #57
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I don’t see why not.
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