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Old 02-08-2018, 12:25 PM   #1
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Venom (2018)

Looks like a Jason Bourne movie...show me the Venom plz next time



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Old 02-08-2018, 01:04 PM   #2
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Old 02-08-2018, 01:04 PM   #3
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Old 02-08-2018, 01:28 PM   #4
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cool little teaser. I'm still super fuzzy on the whole Spiderman/Venom/MCU/Fox/Purple Monkey Dishwasher situation.
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Old 02-08-2018, 01:28 PM   #5
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Why is Brock in San Francisco? Is this to get it where he doesn't cross paths with The Spiderman?
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Old 02-08-2018, 02:25 PM   #7
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When Venom got his limited series in the 90's it was in San Fran.
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Old 02-08-2018, 02:51 PM   #8
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Old 02-08-2018, 07:20 PM   #9
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I like where it's going. Really is a teaser trailer. Nothing crazy, no Tom Hardy suited up, just a taste.
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Old 02-08-2018, 07:33 PM   #10
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Old 02-08-2018, 10:29 PM   #11
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Is this gonna be R rated? Could be Sony's attempt to emulate FOX's second chance at Deadpool after Origins. Second chances...
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R Rated is not a genre.
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Old 02-09-2018, 07:32 AM   #13
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Don't be disingenuous, comic book movies for adults aren't exactly thick on the ground.

I like to think Super started the trend. That movie was brutal.
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:11 AM   #14
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Why is this movie even a thing if you're not gonna try and tie it to Spider-Man?
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It could be an attempt to establish Venom as its own entity. He can be in the same universe but unconnected to Spiderman for now I'm sure.
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Old 02-09-2018, 01:27 PM   #16
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Who said it was?
Technically it is. A genre is just a style or category and a movie's age rating is a category. It's maybe not the only one you want to choose your films based on but that's a different discussion.
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Old 02-09-2018, 02:56 PM   #19
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I'm down for it. I know there is too much at stake money wise to do it but I would love for them to not even show venom. Make people wait.
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Old 02-09-2018, 02:58 PM   #20
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for what? a sequel?
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I don't want them to show the full venom in the trailers. You want to see him go see the movie or wait until it's out so you can see a shitty cam jpg of him. Come on, destor.
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Technically it is. A genre is just a style or category and a movie's age rating is a category. It's maybe not the only one you want to choose your films based on but that's a different discussion.
Expendables 1 is a different genre to Expendables 3?
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If youre using ratings as the genre and not tone as the genre then yeah.

It would be a bad system but if we're being literal genres are subjective categories for classifying art. Modern colloquialisms aside its valid.

And ftr R super hero movies could easily become a reasonable genre in 5 years time
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Deadpool, Deadpool 2, birdman, defendor, kick ass 1 and 2 possibly venom...new mutans pg 13 or R?

Growing genre for sure
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I meant if Sony is taking the route of fixing Venom after fucking him up in Spiderman 3 - like Origins fucked up Deadpool and then they fixed him.
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I meant if Sony is taking the route of fixing Venom after fucking him up in Spiderman 3 - like Origins fucked up Deadpool and then they fixed him.
Topher Grace was absolute garbage. When they cast him I was like "what the fuck? Eddie Brock is supposed to be jacked and this kid is a scrawny little faggot".
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Deadpool, Deadpool 2, birdman, defendor, kick ass 1 and 2 possibly venom...new mutans pg 13 or R?

Growing genre for sure
Growing trend. Not a genre. Nobody writes with 'R' as a genre in their head. There's a reason it's so easy to sway between R and PG13 during editing, whereas it would take heavy editing to change a film's genre mid-way.
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Expendables 1 is a different genre to Expendables 3?
I think we both know that I was using literal definition to make a semantic point.
I didn't say it would hold up or remain valid under real scrutiny but within the Superhero/Comic book adaptation scene you know as well as I do that Wolverine has gone from Universal ratings to R rated and every iteration is significantly different. I would definitely say R rated Logan is a completely different genre(distopic western) to PG rated Wolverine in X men 1&2 or the cartoons.

X Men could pass for a family film. It pretty much is.
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R Rated Superhero movies or Adult Superhero films are already an identifiable sub-category of the comic/superhero genre Kalyx.
Stylistically freed from restraint they are not all about the edit.
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Old 02-09-2018, 06:56 PM   #31
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Super could never work as a kids film. Kick-Ass, Logan or Deadpool either. They need free access to graphic excess in order to make their point...
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:53 PM   #32
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And yet you can edit down Logan for television and it'll still be a western noir. Deadpool would still be a satire of the sub-genre. The freedom of content does lend itself to the film, but it's completely unnecessary to liken ratings as seperate genres. There's no reason to do that. It's almost a misunderstanding of how we categorize movies. There's uses for identifying genre other than making the Blockbuster Video clerk's life easier.
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Less a genre and more a "trend" of "oh, we can make mature superhero movies?"
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And yet you can edit down Logan for television and it'll still be a western noir. Deadpool would still be a satire of the sub-genre. The freedom of content does lend itself to the film, but it's completely unnecessary to liken ratings as seperate genres. There's no reason to do that. It's almost a misunderstanding of how we categorize movies. There's uses for identifying genre other than making the Blockbuster Video clerk's life easier.
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Doesn't Kalyx think the whole MCU is one movie anyways?
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Less a genre and more a "trend" of "oh, we can make mature superhero movies?"
Call it a trend, sure, but it's not a genre.

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Old 02-09-2018, 10:30 PM   #37
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Doesn't Kalyx think the whole MCU is one movie anyways?
A 'movie show'. But I don't see how it hinders my points here. The MCU uses lots of genres to diversify it's episodes, though each one retains MCU dna of character, humor, and mythology. Hold to those three pillars and you can crossbreed with just about any genre, which is the genius of the MCU.
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A 'movie show'. But I don't see how it hinders my points here.
Oh, it's entirely irrelevant. I just brought it up because every now and then I find it fun to give you a hard time and bust your chops.
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Sorry to deflate your big wheel but it's really not busting my chops. One of my fave topics to discuss is the MCU. It's been a fascinating achievement.
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And yet you can edit down Logan for television and it'll still be a western noir

Right but it was only made as a direct result of the aforementioned creation of an adult sub-genre of comic book movie adaptations.
Logan would never have worked and I doubt they'd even think to adapt it if it was watered down. The storyline requires an excess that would never make it into a kids film.

The kids who grew up reading the "graphic novel" style comics are now making these films and there are going to be lots of them. I am a layman when it comes to comics but even I know there are some seriously weird comics that would never have had a chance on screen years ago. Now is the time for crazy stuff like The Invisibles
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