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Old 03-15-2012, 01:16 PM   #481
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There's no way around it, the ending was bad. I can't honestly think of anything to point out (complain about) that hasn't been addressed by articles or other message boards.

The problem I had is that none of those 3 choices at the end were in line of what my Shepard would have chose. My Shepard was sympathetic toward the Geth and believed every race deserved a chance so he wouldn't have done the Paragon route of destroying all sentient life which included the Geth, EDI, and I dunno, some advanced ipads maybe. He wouldn't have gone the Renegade route by controlling them because he was always against that and never believed it could work. And then I guess the 3rd option only unlocks if you meet certain criteria which I met but I still decided against it because that ending wouldn't have made much sense either.

It's hard to imagine any one person's Shepard to be comfortable with one of the three choices at the end, to be honest. Actually, doesn't it seem like the Paragon and Renegade endings should be switched here? If you go full Paragon, doesn't it make more sense to choose the Renegade ending and control the reapers and let every species live? If you go full Renegade, doesn't it make more sense if you choose the Paragon ending by wiping out synthetic life (which you presumably didn't enjoy in the first place if you were a Renegade) and allowing the advanced species to prosper?

Or do I have the endings backwards in the first place? Because here is a video that shows all of the endings. The top (Red) are destroy while the middle (Blue) are control. I was always under the impression that blue was Paragon/destroy and Red was Renegade/control.

I chose Paragon/destroy (at least I thought I did) and ended up with a blue ending.



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I actually don't mind the relays being destroyed no matter what outcome was chosen. It's sad, sure, but it's a finite ending to the series. Whereas the jungle scene is... odd. Apparently Joker is supposed to land with your love interest (Ashley in my case) and a member of your squad that helped you in the final mission. I was too busy wondering if Joker and Ash were symbolic of a new age sci-fi Adam and Eve (Ashley (woman) was created by sucking the essence of Joker's (man) bones (extra rib)) on whateverthefuck planet this was to notice anything else but I do think I remember Javik coming out of the shuttle too. I'm not sure.

The Javik situation is a fucking mess too. I was going to wait and actually play him before I bitched about it and now that I've finished it, there's no fucking way he is "additional" content. That shit is on disc and they locked it just to get more money out of me, those bastards. They knew exactly what they were doing to me and I knew it too as I was purchasing it.

But I'm not purchasing a DLC ending. That's where I draw the line. Unless, you know, the DLC is something ridiculous like 20 different possible outcomes. Then... I dunno...ask me about it when/if that happens

When Shepard got knocked out by the laser, I thought he was dead. When Anderson explicitly said "I'm crossing over to the other side" when he was inside the Citidel and Shepard responded with "Don't go without me" I was so sure that Shep was in heaven or some religious afterlife and it would end with him there. And then from there, the situation and ending that plays out in my head is better than what the actual ending was. Hell, I've read a handful of fan endings that were WAY better than we got.

The ending is bad. What a shame.
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aren't you glad you went through all that trouble to 100% it when it really didn't mean jack shit in the end
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:20 PM   #482
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That's another thing, what exactly does your galactic readiness change? Anything?

It wasn't a huge pain because the multiplayer was actually kinda fun, but I don't think it mattered in the long run.
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Just gives you the third ending, I believe.
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did you have to redo that cutscene where illusive man shot you. i never pull the renegade trigger. got shot and died. had to sit through 5 minutes of it again.
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The problem I had is that none of those 3 choices at the end were in line of what my Shepard would have chose. My Shepard was sympathetic toward the Geth and believed every race deserved a chance so he wouldn't have done the Paragon route of destroying all sentient life which included the Geth, EDI, and I dunno, some advanced ipads maybe. He wouldn't have gone the Renegade route by controlling them because he was always against that and never believed it could work. And then I guess the 3rd option only unlocks if you meet certain criteria which I met but I still decided against it because that ending wouldn't have made much sense either.

It's hard to imagine any one person's Shepard to be comfortable with one of the three choices at the end, to be honest. Actually, doesn't it seem like the Paragon and Renegade endings should be switched here? If you go full Paragon, doesn't it make more sense to choose the Renegade ending and control the reapers and let every species live? If you go full Renegade, doesn't it make more sense if you choose the Paragon ending by wiping out synthetic life (which you presumably didn't enjoy in the first place if you were a Renegade) and allowing the advanced species to prosper?

Or do I have the endings backwards in the first place? Because here is a video that shows all of the endings. The top (Red) are destroy while the middle (Blue) are control. I was always under the impression that blue was Paragon/destroy and Red was Renegade/control.

I chose Paragon/destroy (at least I thought I did) and ended up with a blue ending.
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Ok so yeah after playing it again, I think I had them backwards when I made my decision the first time. Blue, left side is control while Red, right side is destroy. Which one of those endings should actually be classified as Paragon/Renegade is for another discussion.

I think the synthesis, middle, green ending might be the "official" canon ending. It's also the one I'm most content with. Joker and EDI are seen in the jungle with new synthetic implants in their skin and Ashley climbs out at the end.
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When Shepard got knocked out by the laser, I thought he was dead. When Anderson explicitly said "I'm crossing over to the other side" when he was inside the Citidel and Shepard responded with "Don't go without me" I was so sure that Shep was in heaven or some religious afterlife and it would end with him there.
There are also a lot more references to this too and I could see a point where maybe the keepers are "gatekeepers" to what happens next in life and you "ascend" to the catalyst. Still kinda goofy.

WISH WE HAD MORE STORY ON THE KEEPERS.

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did you have to redo that cutscene where illusive man shot you. i never pull the renegade trigger. got shot and died. had to sit through 5 minutes of it again.
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Illusive Man never shot me, he shot Anderson.
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Hey yeah, wait a second

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When attacking the Cerberus base, I saw video clips of Illusive Man eventually getting some sort of procedure done to himself.

When he showed up at the end, he clearly had some sort of cybernetic implants.

Did he find that next step of evolution of synthesis in the green ending? Was he right about the Reapers all along?

fuck it, i don't care anymore
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He first shot Anderson, then he shot me. Both shots had a renegade trigger before them. I pulled it before Anderson. Wonder what happens if you pull it the 2nd time, after he kills him. Maybe there is a different cut scene.
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He first shot Anderson, then he shot me. Both shots had a renegade trigger before them. I pulled it before Anderson. Wonder what happens if you pull it the 2nd time, after he kills him. Maybe there is a different cut scene.
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oh. He shot at Anderson and then killed himself in my game.
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I keep going back to the multiplayer. Can't stop myself. For some reason I can't explain I need my Galactic Readiness to be 100% despite the fact that I've beaten the game twice now.

It's weird considering that I don't give a fuck about Achievements, but the Terminus system getting down to 97% seems to really bug me.
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The only big mistake I made in this game was..

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I didn't listen to Traynor about the College under attack, so I ended up having to kill Jack at the Cerberus Base.

Actually I wish I could have saved both Tali and Legion. I chose Tali cause Legion was geth and I fucking hate blatant ripoffs of the Borg.

How do you choose from the different endings? I just ran into the light and I guess that was "Synthesis?"

I'm confused.
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I didn't listen to Traynor about the College under attack, so I ended up having to kill Jack at the Cerberus Base.

Actually I wish I could have saved both Tali and Legion. I chose Tali cause Legion was geth and I fucking hate blatant ripoffs of the Borg.

How do you choose from the different endings? I just ran into the light and I guess that was "Synthesis?"

I'm confused.
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Just wrapped Thessia. Can't remember the last time I remember Shep being that pissed. Did my rounds around the ship and he practically bit Joker's head right off. Off to Horizon to put break Yeng's legs.......again.
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So when you step the challenge level up to silver and gold, what does that do. Tougher enemies? They are pretty damn tough to begin with and I can't image going any higher. Would also help if I wasn't using the default weapon.
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You get a lot stronger once you level up and Bronze challenges become easy. Silver and Gold will have more enemies and special enemies like Banshees and Atlases. They'll be tougher too.
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Yeah. Pretty much been doing the Bronze mission with me and my buddies. None of us really got the gear to make the jump to silver. Just keep winning matches and saving "cash" to grab Vet or Spectre packs.

Supposedly, if you get lucky and get the Black Widow, you won't ever have to grab another gun again cause it's that powerful.
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On the subject on multiplayer, a question to the tribe.

Anybody hit a glitch around lvl 15? After the round, the bonus boxes you get when you bought the N7 edition and started up multiplayer for the first time popped up (battlefield 3 and recruit pack I think) and and I unlocked them. However, when I got back to the lobby, I lost the guns I took into the round. I lost my Mattock and whatever SMG I had. But I also lost all of my SMGs and assault rifles.

Any help on this would be great, but I think it's just one of those rare glitches.
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So when you step the challenge level up to silver and gold, what does that do. Tougher enemies? They are pretty damn tough to begin with and I can't image going any higher. Would also help if I wasn't using the default weapon.
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I bought that ammo box that is on sale. I think I should've gotten the middle box instead. Or even save for a Spectre kit.
The package on sale is awesome. You get five of everything...however, if you don't want those extra medigel I could take them off your hands.

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You get a lot stronger once you level up and Bronze challenges become easy. Silver and Gold will have more enemies and special enemies like Banshees and Atlases. They'll be tougher too.
They're especially easy when you have a good team of guys all near level 20.

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Yeah. Pretty much been doing the Bronze mission with me and my buddies. None of us really got the gear to make the jump to silver. Just keep winning matches and saving "cash" to grab Vet or Spectre packs.

Supposedly, if you get lucky and get the Black Widow, you won't ever have to grab another gun again cause it's that powerful.
Bah...who needs guns?
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Random buying. No way around it. Would do the spectre packages for that, however.
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Old 03-16-2012, 04:53 PM   #511
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Might play it a 2nd time just to do the mission I forgot to do to get that achievement. I wish I saved more.

I was saving all the time for Mass Effect 1 and 2.
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What mission is missable for an achievement? I thought they were all tied to must play ones.
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Soo...I hear that other games have had DLC endings. Anybody know of some examples?
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Bioware reminds everyone that this weekend is the first "N7 Weekend" with special challenges and rewards available. The rewards won't be sent until Tuesday and have to be activated within a week.

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·Any player who is part of a squad that beats the Reaper faction on Silver difficulty or better will unlock one Commendation Pack. This means that at least one member of the squad must be extracted at the end of the mission - this will earn all squad members the reward. Each player can earn a maximum of one pack and each pack contains a random N7 Arsenal Weapon. Originally only available as single-player weapons via the N7 Collector's Edition, these multiplayer variants will be exceptionally rare and are NOT obtainable through regular purchasable Reinforcement Packs. The Commendation Packs will contain one of the following guns at random: (1) N7 Crusader Shotgun, (2) N7 Eagle Pistol, (3) N7 Hurricane SMG and (4) N7 Valiant Sniper Rifle.
·Destroy as many brutes as possible - if the multiplayer community kills a combined 1 MILLION brutes within the hours of the challenge, ALL players will receive a Victory Pack as a reward.
http://www.joystickdivision.com/2012..._n7_weeken.php


Also Bioware will be having a special discussion with fans concerning the current endings of Mass Effect 3 but won't official start the debates until a larger percentage of owners complete the game. No hints of any changes will actually be made but they will consider complaints offered.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/...ers-finish-it/


Finally, anyone hoping for a new storyline in the Mass Effect series might be disappointed since the current plan is for all future Mass Effect games to involve being a side story of what occurs during Mass Effect 3 or as a prequel to set up Mass Effect 3.
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I am down for that silver challenge. Guess I should try to get a better gun by then. Need 43k more.
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Me and my guys will probably go for it. Reapers only kinda stinks, missing out on the 5000xp bonus for going unknown. But gear is gear, free is free.
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My Vanguard's been having shitty luck with the Banshees lately on Silver. Might try to level up another Sentinel or something...
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