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Old 10-11-2018, 10:24 AM   #121
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Is that the best effort you can give it?! Fucking hell you're an idiot.


What I mean to say is you're a moron and that's a proven fact. Twisting my words isn't going to make you any less stupid Vic. This isn'teven about fixing fights, it's about blatant perversion of contest.
UFC has always done it.

The point about Kimbo was that every fed that used him treated him as a commodity, as they do with marketable fighters with no ability.

No point discussing this with someone as stupid as you anyway.
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I disagree a bit. Compared to other promotions he has shown more integrity for what goes on inside the 'ring'.
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I agree with everything said above, but that is stuff that goes on outside of the ring.

I feel like EliteXC and Bellator has not always shown respect to the sport inside of the ring (more so EliteXC).
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The Nate Diaz/Conor point you made is not about the action inside the ring but outside. Which I agree that happens a lot Sonnen/Jones, DC/Brock, etc.

But once the fighters get in the ring you don't hear of anything that would taint the sport. You don't hear of Dana offering 'Fighter X' more money to stand with 'Fighter Y' instead of going to the ground, etc.
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My goalpost has always been Dana is a dickhead to the sport outside of the ring but inside of the ring he treats the sport fine.
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Old 10-11-2018, 10:26 AM   #122
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Who Dana fully supports. I've been a fan since '05, which I get is short for some, but I've seen Dana's progression and he's proven himself to be nothing short of an obnoxious huckster. Yeah, he's hard working, but he has little to no integrity.
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I disagree a bit. Compared to other promotions he has shown more integrity for what goes on inside the 'ring'.
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Old 10-11-2018, 10:27 AM   #123
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Yeah you're completely wrong as usual Vic. I'm not denying you said any of that because it shows you don't have a clue so feel free to quote yourself any time. It's all a load of shite.
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Old 10-11-2018, 10:31 AM   #124
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I don't think you know what you mean Vic. You seem to think Dana would have to walk into the cage and fist himself to undermine the current product but I'd suggest that would be more entertaining and more competitive than any of his freak show fight ideas.
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Old 10-11-2018, 10:32 AM   #125
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UFC hired Kimbo, did you ever see the Houston Alexander fight? He had to have been paid off. 15 minutes of Ring a Rosies

Lol what a fucking stupid thing to say why would UFC want that AT ALL?
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Old 10-11-2018, 10:42 AM   #126
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I don't think you know what you mean Vic. You seem to think Dana would have to walk into the cage and fist himself to undermine the current product but I'd suggest that would be more entertaining and more competitive than any of his freak show fight ideas.
I would say Dana would have to go to fighters and tell them to 'not go to the ground when they are facing a brawler' or try to repeat the professional wrestling spectacle Kimbo/Shamrock was...... or hire Bob Sapp.

He hasn't done any of that. And has never credibly been accused of that.
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Old 10-11-2018, 10:51 AM   #127
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Lol what a fucking stupid thing to say why would UFC want that AT ALL?


Why would EliteXC want it? Why is it ok for you to point fingers at EliteXC's closure being at the hands of Kimbo's mismanagement yet ludicrous for me to pick his worst UFC fight and raise an eyebrow years after me and everybody else already had reservations about it?!

You hinge your entire belief that Dana doesn't harm in-ring competition on what?! That a completely different federation once was suspected of favouring Kimbo because of a one-off comment Seth Petrizelli said?

You're a buffoon.
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Old 10-11-2018, 10:52 AM   #128
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I would say Dana would have to go to fighters and tell them to 'not go to the ground when they are facing a brawler' or try to repeat the professional wrestling spectacle Kimbo/Shamrock was...... or hire Bob Sapp.

He hasn't done any of that. And has never credibly been accused of that.


So you're a naive Dana fanboy.

I see now.
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Old 10-11-2018, 10:53 AM   #129
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Here's a cryptic clue for you Vic. Which federation made more money from Kimbo? Who's investment was greater?

Hmmmmm?!
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Old 10-11-2018, 10:56 AM   #131
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Where do you buy your tin foil hats from? Or do you make them yourself.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:00 AM   #132
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Here's a cryptic clue for you Vic. Which federation made more money from Kimbo? Who's investment was greater?

Hmmmmm?!
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:45 AM   #133
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Well if you're just going to be silly about it then I might as well take my hats and leave.
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Old 10-11-2018, 12:02 PM   #134
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Vic while I'm not impressed by your behaviour here I do feel the need to publicly acknowledge that you annoyed me enough to neg you twice... to which you responded with the never-fail-guilt-rider the return positive rep.

Well done. You have bested me in this moment in time. I will return to not negging people as my status quo for that rep has turned to ashes in my mouth.
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Old 10-11-2018, 12:05 PM   #135
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Old 10-11-2018, 09:44 PM   #136
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According to ESPN, both Conor and Khabib are looking at an indefinite suspension from the Nevada Commission. Official decision to be made on October 24th.

Khabib also threatened to leave UFC if one of his teammates is fired by the company.
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What did Conor do wrong?
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The Commission was upset he climbed the cage to go after Khabib and might have provoked the attack on him afterwards.
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