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Old 11-17-2015, 07:02 PM   #4481
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Jeff Banister and Joe Maddon win Manager of the Year.
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Yost got screwed again?

Feel like the Baseball Writers got something against him. If that's who votes on all the awards.
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Old 11-17-2015, 08:10 PM   #4483
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Giants retain Brandon Crawford. 6-years, $75 mil.
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Manager of the year is maybe the worst award there is. There's no criteria or skill that's assessed.

Good deal for Crawford and the Giants. His glove is pretty close to Simmons', and considering how hard a decent, legitimate shortstop is to find, it's good on San Fran to lock him up now for a pretty responsible price.

In other news, apparently Matt Kemp's corpse is on the trade market. Maybe Dombrowski will bite once more. Can't think of many teams that'd be interested in watching a man break down before their eyes.
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Yost got screwed again?

Feel like the Baseball Writers got something against him. If that's who votes on all the awards.
Probably a mix of Royals were expected to be good and both Astros and Rangers having a huge turnaround compared to last year. Had Astros not faded near the end, probably a lock that A.J. Hinch would have won the award instead.
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There is growing sentiment that the Marlins will trade Jose Fernandez this offseason.

lol god that franchise is such a trainwreck
What was that Hard Knocks type show that followed the marlins staff for a while? I remember watching it and really hating Loria and Sampson. Scumbags. I feel bad for the taxpayers who funded that stadium and will have to pay tons of interest on the bonds the city and county took out.

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Big Papi has announced that 2016 will be his final season.

Might explain the "win-now" move that was the Kimbrel trade. Papi is still the heart and soul of that franchise.
I'm not one for sweetheart deals or going for it for a single player, but I would say that a guy like Ortiz was what got the Red Sox over the "cursed" era. That personality is something the cubs are sorely lacking as they try to do the same.

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Simple: Whichever team that was supposed to be bad gets the furthest from bad gets manager of the year.
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Old 11-18-2015, 08:38 AM   #4487
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Cliff Pennington becomes the first free agent to switch teams this offseason. Angels sign him for 2 years, $3.75 million. EARTH SHATTERING!

A's sign Rich Hill for 1 year, $6 million. Supposedly had a bigger money offer on the table but wasn't guaranteed the rotation spot that he was in Oakland. Good for him. Went from playing independent ball to getting a multi-million dollar deal in the span of about 3 months.
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Brewers get: 2B Javier Betancourt
Tigers get: RHP Francisco Rodriguez
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Old 11-18-2015, 12:20 PM   #4490
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Old 11-18-2015, 03:31 PM   #4491
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Nah definitely not. I like that they got K-Rod for probably like 2/3 what Miller is going to get. Didn't break the bank for him. Low-risk/high-reward kind of thing. Still have a lot of holes on the pitching staff as a whole but this was a good step
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Old 11-18-2015, 08:45 PM   #4494
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Cy Young winners:
AL - Dallas Keuchel
NL - Jake Arrieta

Keuchel beat David Price by 43 votes and Arrieta beat Zack Greinke by 22 votes.
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I think Price would have won easily if he hadn't shit the bed in the playoffs.....his second half run was amazing....
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shit the bed is a very toronto way to look at it
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Nope. Ballots are due basically the day after the regular season ends.
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What Vito said.

Glad for Arrieta. Don't think there's a wrong pick between him, Greinke and Kershaw.

Now we get to see if the dumb line of thinking about making the playoffs will be cast aside in favor of a landslide win of mvp for Harper.
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Old 11-19-2015, 08:52 AM   #4499
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I'd be shocked if it isn't.
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As would I, however, I put very little past the current bbwa voting process. We shall see.
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I could easily see some curmudgeon voting McCutchen or somebody #1 simply because his team made the playoffs.

Harper will still win decisively though, and rightly so.
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Also I personally would have gone with Greinke over Arrieta, although that's not a knock on Arrieta as he (and Kershaw) both had compelling arguments and would have been deserving.

Greinke was basically dominant the whole season. Arrieta was good until August then he just went into otherworldly territory. If you were to flip his Apr/May results with his Aug/Sept ones and give him the same stats to end the year and he almost certainly doesn't win the award. Definitely benefited from the timing of his hot streak.

But still good for him, hell of an award season for the Cubbies.
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Writers cannot take playoffs into account when voting for regular season awards. Maybe Coach if the team wins it all but still probably not.
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20 > 18. Dallas
2.48 < 2.45 Price but not by much.
216 < 225 Price also but not by much.
Golden Glove-Dallas.

Wins are the biggest thing and 20 game winner is a huge Cy Young selling point.
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Lol wins. About as useless as TEH RIBBIES
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Old 11-19-2015, 11:48 AM   #4508
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And that's not a jab at std, just the voting process in general and why I have little faith in the process in which the bbwa votes on awards.
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Old 11-19-2015, 11:58 AM   #4509
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They gave it to Felix one year when he went like, 13-12 didn't they?
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Old 11-19-2015, 12:00 PM   #4510
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Which was the one time in recent memory they didn't just go with the wins leader, or at least look only at wins.
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I can't believe Mark Melancon got a vote. Nothing against him but giving any reliever even a 5th place vote in a league as packed with amazing SPs as the NL was this year is complete lunacy.
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Old 11-19-2015, 12:29 PM   #4512
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But....but the SAVES, Vito.

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I agree with you, though, it's odd. And I'm a Melancon fan.
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Lol wins. About as useless as TEH RIBBIES
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Old 11-19-2015, 01:47 PM   #4515
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Old 11-19-2015, 04:41 PM   #4516
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I love you gorgeous Dale. I think the year Greinke won it, his record was not stellar. But the numbers he actually controlled were absolutely stellar. They really had to no choice but to acknowledge both Felix and Greinke were fantastic and that their win loss record was superfluous.
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Old 11-19-2015, 04:53 PM   #4517
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lol Trevor Rosenthal got a 6th place vote. What the fuck?
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Old 11-19-2015, 07:33 PM   #4519
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That scoring system seems so fucked. You'd think it would just be to vote for one guy and call it a day. Not sure why they have to "score" it.
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Damn...Cubs snuck in and swiped Jack Leathersich from the Mets. He's a reliever who throws high heat with his left arm and had like a 15 K/9 ratio in the minors. Problem is he also had a 5 BB/9 so he was still very much a work in progress.

Main reason the Mets dropped him is because they needed to free up spots on the 40 man roster. He had TJS in late July and so they didn't feel another team would keep an unproven guy like him on the 40 all offseason and then also have to pay him a big league salary to spend most if not all of 2016 on the 60-day DL.

Cubs must really like him. Moreover though I'm sad to lose him cause his name is awesome.
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