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Old 05-01-2018, 09:27 PM   #12681
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I mean you can certainly have different kinds of hack and slash. But the general definition isn't that specific. Pretty sure most people consider any action game that focuses primarily on melee weapon combat to be hack and slash.
Most people are wrong. The genre means something. It's not just whenever the hero swings a weapon. Zelda is not Hack n Slash. And get this; Godhand, with no heavy weapon combat, is.

Mechanics mean something. They combine to make up the consistent tropes of a genre.
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Old 05-01-2018, 10:27 PM   #12682
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Yeah like i said you gotta be a real dork to say theyre different. Double Dragon and Beyonetta are the same genre unless youre nit picky. Theyre just different takes. Would be like saying crash bandicoot is a dif genre than mario due to a distinct change in approach despite the core mechanic remaining the same.

Defeat enemies. Progress to next screen. Hit enemies till they die. Repeat.

Needing intricate combos a genre does not make. Would be like saying mk1 and mk3 are different genres.

Nit picky and arbitrary.

HOWEVER if the point is conceded that it does make a dif genre then yes new GoW is not a hack and slash but in fact a beat em up. But its a rose by any other name.

Also would make YAKUZA a hack a slash which just sounds weird and protest on principle
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Old 05-01-2018, 10:28 PM   #12683
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At best we're talking sub genres
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Old 05-01-2018, 10:44 PM   #12684
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I really don't know how harsh 'dork' is supposed to be in this of all discussions.

Either I'm a complete dork for caring about how games are designed (for shame), or I'm in error and can't be that much of a 'geek'. I seriously do not get the 'dork' thing. We're talking games in a wrestling forum.

Now for the rest of your post cause you're off on a few things. But before I commit to it, cause it's gonna be 'one of those Kalyx posts', a simple question:

Do you care about genre distictions? That's not a value judgment question, you can love games however you want. But based on what you said about Bayo/DD, Mario/Crash, and Yakuza - I gotta know.

Do you actually care about the design philosophy aspect of games? Again it's 100% fine if you just wanna buy a good time.
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Hell I only noted the distinction in the first place cause it's very urk'ful to me when people make direct comparisons between this and the old GoW. As a series, sure. Game mechanics? That's as jarring as comparing RE7 to the RE4; it's just a different ball game. All I'm sayin.
Making a judgemental comparison between the two is unfair, because as you stated, it's become apples and oranges.

You can absolutely make unbiased, informative comparisons about the two. I only stated that attacks feel weightier and have more heft to them. Because they do. Never said one was better than the other.
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Dork shouldnt be harsh at all. Just a true statement. Is dork still negitive? I thought that passed in the 90s
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I care about real genre distinctions and not subgenre distinctions as there is no fucking limit to how retarded those convos get. No diff than arguing sub genres of metal.

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Subgenre debates boil down to the guy with the most annoying fandom for a thing describing how his grain of sand is different because of some nuance that matters to him makes it TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

A genre is never about minor details. Horror and comedy. Not horror and slasher or worse slasher vs splatter
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Making a judgemental comparison between the two is unfair, because as you stated, it's become apples and oranges.
I didn't say anything was better than anything.
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I didn't say you did.
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Dork shouldnt be harsh at all. Just a true statement. Is dork still negitive? I thought that passed in the 90s
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I care about real genre distinctions and not subgenre distinctions as there is no fucking limit to how retarded those convos get. No diff than arguing sub genres of metal.

Worst. Topic. Ever.
"You're wrong about a topic I don't care about."

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Subgenre debates boil down to the guy with the most annoying fandom for a thing describing how his grain of sand is different because of some nuance that matters to him makes it TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

A genre is never about minor details. Horror and comedy. Not horror and slasher or worse slasher vs splatter
I wasn't talking about minor details.

But I'm gonna lean on the side of your face that doesn't care and save it.
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I didn't say you did.
Gotcha.

But going back to my original point; GoW can't feel heavier because there is no prequel. It is mechanically a new game. The comparisons would be more broad (like comparing Mario Kart to Gran Turismo as general racing games). But more specific comparisons could be made between Mario Kart and Diddy Kong Racing.
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You are literally the only person who looked at that statement and thought that.

Everyone else thought "Oh, that's interesting. Thank you for giving me an example of how this God of War video game differs from other God of War video games."

Because you are weird.
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Everyone except Triple A.

He probably read that and started thinking about guac.
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If that's weird than this simply isn't the place to discuss that sort of thing.
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It's not short. I've put hours and hours into it already. The main quest line is probably about average length. At least I think it is. I haven't even finished it yet. But I don't know if it's possible to just burn through the main story, as enemies get tougher and have their own levels. If you aren't exploring and finding more materials to craft better armor to up your stats, I don't know if you can get past later enemies.

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Whats wrong with deleting games? Theyre free to redownload..aren't they?
I think so, but I deleted TESO: Tamriel Unlimited and Watch Dogs 2 and neither shows up in my library to re-download. Pisses me right the fuck off.
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2) Epic Games and Marvel are currently working together on a Thanos themed event for Fornite called "Infinity Gauntlet Limited Time Mashup" which starts on May 8th.
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3) SNK is currently rumored to be working on a mini-Neo Geo console with 40 classic arcade games to be included.
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4) Based on recent job postings, Nintendo is currently hiring level designers for the next game in the Legend of Zelda series.
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Old 05-07-2018, 09:30 PM   #12706
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20 games to start out with is legit. Really excited for the SNES games they will put on it.
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Old 05-08-2018, 05:35 PM   #12709
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For some reason I thought State of Decay 2 wasn't coming out til September.

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Old 05-08-2018, 06:06 PM   #12710
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2) Based on Capcom's recent fiscal report, Monster Hunter: World has sold around 7.9 million copies since its launch and helped contribute to the most profitable fiscal year in company history.
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Old 05-08-2018, 08:21 PM   #12711
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2) Update to recent FTC rulings on illegal warranty stickers news as Sony recently updated the terms of their console warranties in order to be complacent with the FTC's demands.
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Old 05-10-2018, 05:38 PM   #12713
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2) Update to recent rumors of a new mini-Neo Geo device news as SNK recently confirmed the rumors of the device and 40 games included to be true.
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3) Activision announced the PC, Switch, and Xbox One versions of Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy will be arriving on June 29th.
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4) SALES - Nintendo revealed the list of games for this week's sales on the eShop.
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3) Sony is currently denying rumors of them taking a cut from of the sales for Overwatch's charity Mercy skin and stated the confusion was simply due to the wording on PSN being different than on PC and Xbox One.
https://www.vg247.com/2018/05/11/son...er-mercy-skin/

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Old 05-13-2018, 01:58 AM   #12715
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Going to be nuts if they can pull this off.

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Old 05-13-2018, 03:38 AM   #12716
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The idea of Beyond Skyrim is awesome. But they've taken too long and are nowhere near completion. By the time they finish it, if they finish it, ES6 will most likely be out and no one will care.

Besides it's basically just single player ESO. If you want to see large portions of Tamriel in game form, that's your best bet. I played it for awhile and that game is freaking HUGE.
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As they said in the video, Morrowind and Oblivion still have a very active mod scene and player base, so I don't think ES:6 will stop the project or kill interest.

Don't really care for the gameplay in ESO. Plus, thee enviornments lack the finer details that you see in skyrim. Unlike Ronda Rousey's vagina of course.
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Old 05-13-2018, 03:02 PM   #12718
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Ftr they said morrowind has an active mod scene. Oblivions is dead and they said as much.

Morrowinds live on because he community around it believes its the greatest game of all time. The only major TES4 mod still going is the morrowind mod and that doesnt have any progress really.

Skyrim, like oblivion, will dwindle after TES6 drops.
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Old 05-14-2018, 09:35 AM   #12719
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Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon finally got a release date. May 24th next week. $9.99. It's a spin off of the upcoming Ritual of the Night.

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