MLB 2005 Season Thread - Page 18

**Loose Cannon** · 08-02-2005, 09:23 PM

yea, the kid was a shoe in.

was

**RoXer** · 08-02-2005, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

Yeah and so did Franklin

haha

**YOUR Hero** · 08-02-2005, 09:31 PM

I was gonna add that

**Loose Cannon** · 08-02-2005, 09:38 PM

yea, I can't see any more posts. what the fuck

**The Miz** · 08-02-2005, 09:39 PM

Ryan Franklin has always been my favorite M to pick on but this is ridiculous. He had to use steroids to achieve a 6+ ERA, imagine how shitty he woulda been withotu them.

Our rotation is almost Ranger-bad now

**The Miz** · 08-02-2005, 09:40 PM

BTW, first team in MLB to have multiple cheaters

**YOUR Hero** · 08-02-2005, 10:11 PM

What do you think of his protests.. that he didn't take anything knowingly.

In Canada, we've heard this before (Ben Johnson), however, Silken Laugman (sp?) was also banned for... well I don't think it was a steriod, but something when she took one of those nasal mists.

Me, I'd like to believe him. Who knows though.

**The Miz** · 08-02-2005, 10:25 PM

I don't buy his excuses at all. Even if he is innocent, I don't care because we get to see an AAA guy for the next 10 days instead of that bum Franklin

**YOUR Hero** · 08-02-2005, 10:41 PM

I was referring to Raphy, BTW

**YOUR Hero** · 08-02-2005, 10:44 PM

You know, Palmeiro was under oath. If he has lied, and it is a known fact that he lied, he could face up to 5 years in jail.

I doubt they'd ever go after him, but it makes for interesting talk.

**Terra Ryzin** · 08-03-2005, 12:15 AM

David Wright is the man

NEW YORK -- Rafael Palmeiro said he didn't knowingly ingest steroids.
The Mets are trying not to make the same mistake.

"It's scary to realize that you can buy things at GNC or at a Vitamin Shoppe that could show up positive in a drug test," Mets third baseman David Wright said. "But on the other hand, we're professional athletes and we have to be responsible for what we put in our body and we need to check with our team doctors, our trainers to make sure what we do put in our bodies are legal and are allowed."

"I think it's still surprising," Wright said of the suspensions this season. "Maybe I'm na�ve that nobody would want to cheat, to put things in their bodies that would give them an advantage over everybody else.

"But then again, I'm kind of 'old school' where I think that you get to where you want to be through hard work rather than having to take any kind of illegal supplements."

Wright, ever the optimist, repeatedly moved for the issue to be resolved, simply so everyone could remember what a great game baseball still is.

"I think the first thing to get back on the right track is catching these people who are using steroids and punishing them," Wright said. "Hopefully, it won't happen again. Hopefully, a year from now we're talking about pennant races and Wild Card races [instead of] steroid use and drug use in baseball."

**Boomer** · 08-03-2005, 12:15 AM

He tested positive for stanozolol, a potent steroid says ESPN.

Ben Johnson got stripped of the gold for it...

How about Raphy?

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-03-2005, 03:25 AM

Manny knocks in 3 RBIs to boost his total to 97. Red Sox win it by one run.

**YOUR Hero** · 08-03-2005, 10:26 AM

Stanozolol isn't found in any supplement (if I remember correctly anyway..). That's the very same steriod that fucked over Ben Johnson.

RP · 08-03-2005, 12:52 PM

Yes folks. Its time we shed a little bit of attention on , what i think is, The best organization in baseball.

I'm not a A's fan. ( Atleast i wasnt .. )

The Oakland A's were 12 1/2 games back of the Angels in May. They've since went on a tear winning 33-40 games. Unbelievable. They do this shit every year. Start out slow, then blitz there way to the top and make the playoffs. The messed up thing about it is, every year they lose all-star players. Giambi, Tejada, Mark Mulder, Tim Hudson, Keith Folke. Yet Billy Bean still gets this team re-stocked for the playoff run.

I'm a Cubs fan. Since my team seems to be falling hard of late. I'm jumping on the bandwagon now. GO A's

**The Miz** · 08-03-2005, 01:08 PM

They will mostly likely win the West, if they do they will lose to the Red Sox in the first round. If they win the wild card however they will play Chicago and probably sweep them. Amazing that they're doing this in a rebuilding year. 2006-8 are really their years

RP · 08-03-2005, 01:40 PM

They havent traded or signed anyone. They have the same roster they had opening day. Zito has been average at best. Mark Kotsay is like there star player.

RP · 08-03-2005, 01:41 PM

Billy Bean should run baseball.

**OssMan** · 08-03-2005, 02:30 PM

Yeah whatever Raffy took is "practically impossible" to ingest unknowingly

**The Miz** · 08-03-2005, 03:22 PM

What? They've picked up:

Jay Payton (HUGE upgrade over Spaz Byrnes, good power, clutch hitter)
Joe Kennedy (lefty long-man, gives them depth in the rotation if someone gets injured)
Jay Witasick (excellent setup man, along with Calero and Duchscherer they now have best RH setup in the league)

They've gotten rid of:

Spaz Byrnes (fast and good pop but stupidest player in MLB and defensive liability)
Chad Bradford (kills righties but they already have a Roogy and he si always on the DL)

Dan Johnson and Huston Street were not on the opening day roster; Johnson is leading the team in hitting and is 10000x better than Hatteberg and Street is the Rookie of the Year.

Zito is having his best year since 2002 (Cy Young). The stats are deceiving, he had one awful month but has been one of the top 5 starters in MLB the last 2 months.

Kotsay is good, yes, but the offense is anchored by Crosby Chavez and Kendall

Again, what?

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 08-03-2005, 03:43 PM

What I don't understand is Oakland/Bay Area fans. They have the 7th worst attendance in baseball this year and the fans never seem to come out for them even though they put out a solid team year in and year out. They're averaging almost 15,000 less people a game than the Giants who are garbage.

**The Outlaw** · 08-03-2005, 03:51 PM

THE NEV EPISODE

RP · 08-03-2005, 04:14 PM

OK . But yah the A's are good.

**RoXer** · 08-03-2005, 04:34 PM

HEY, FUCK YOU. If anyone should have made this thred it should have been me.

**RoXer** · 08-03-2005, 04:35 PM

OKAKLAND F'N A'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

RP · 08-03-2005, 04:38 PM

You're a horrible A's fan

**RoXer** · 08-03-2005, 04:39 PM

God, I miss the bay area. I want to go to a game so bad. I think the NL West plays the AL west next year though, so I might luck out if they come to AZ.

And yeah, what Miz said. They will crush the White Sox if they meet them in the playoffs. If it's the Red Sox, then they will probly win the first 2 and lose the last 3. Like every year.

The bandwagon is full Rectal Pertruder. Please leave.

**RoXer** · 08-03-2005, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

You're a horrible A's fan

You're just plain horrible.

**RoXer** · 08-03-2005, 04:44 PM

Fuck, I remember when I was a kid and the A's were terrible in the 90's. You could go to a game for something like $8. BART ride, cheap bleacher seats, and maybe a dollar hot dog night and it would be around $8 or something.

**YOUR Hero** · 08-03-2005, 08:43 PM

It's hard not to like the A's. I've liked them going back to the mid 70's. Expos, Jays, M's, A's. I'd say that would be my order of favourites. Minus the 'sP0s now of course.

**YOUR Hero** · 08-03-2005, 08:46 PM

Oh shit, something I forgot to mention.

Miz, Huston Street will not be the rookie of the Year. No doubt he's been very good for the A's this year, however:

Gustavo Chac�n #39 | Starting Pitcher | Toronto Blue Jays

Height: 5-11 Weight: 193
Bats: L Throws: L
Born: Dec 4, 1980 - Maracaibo, Venezuela
College: None
Draft: None

W-L	ERA	K	Walks	WHIP
11-5	3.28	76	43	1.37

Will be the AL RotY

**The Miz** · 08-03-2005, 09:42 PM

Chacin has been very, very good, but he is a #3 starter on a team that will not make the playoffs. Street is one of the key contributors to the resurgence of a team that most likely make the playoffs. His ERA is well under 2 and he could finish with 20-25 saves. Oakland's pen is arguably the best in the AL and he is the leader of it. Sorry but there is no pressure starting in Toronto on a .500 team. Street is 21 and was brought in to replace Octavio Dotel as the Oakland A's closer and has been unbelievable. Chacin = very good Street = excellent

**YOUR Hero** · 08-03-2005, 09:56 PM

I say you're wrong, however, we shall see.

**The Miz** · 08-03-2005, 10:04 PM

The only chance he has of losing it is if his teamate Nick Swisher takes away some of his votes. If by the end of the season his statline looks something like 21/26 sv, 1.85, 70+ ip it will be hard to argue.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-03-2005, 11:34 PM

Manny bats once tonight. Hits his 30th HR and picked up his 100th RBI

WOOOP

**MoRcHeEbA** · 08-04-2005, 01:48 AM

AND THEN GOT INJURED

**OssMan** · 08-04-2005, 02:15 PM

Orioles fired Lee Mazzilli what the F

**The Miz** · 08-04-2005, 03:53 PM

Orioles name OF Eric Byrnes player/manager

**Innovator** · 08-04-2005, 09:50 PM

A-Rod ties it up in the 9th

way to finally start coming through in the clutch

**Loose Cannon** · 08-04-2005, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

Orioles name OF Eric Byrnes player/manager

lol. oh god. I couldn't picture him handling a scorecard

08-03-2005, 12:52 PM	#695
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,988	The Oakland " Bleeping " A's are doing it agaain. Yes folks. Its time we shed a little bit of attention on , what i think is, The best organization in baseball. I'm not a A's fan. ( Atleast i wasnt .. ) The Oakland A's were 12 1/2 games back of the Angels in May. They've since went on a tear winning 33-40 games. Unbelievable. They do this shit every year. Start out slow, then blitz there way to the top and make the playoffs. The messed up thing about it is, every year they lose all-star players. Giambi, Tejada, Mark Mulder, Tim Hudson, Keith Folke. Yet Billy Bean still gets this team re-stocked for the playoff run. I'm a Cubs fan. Since my team seems to be falling hard of late. I'm jumping on the bandwagon now. GO A's It dont matter who did what to who at this point. The fact is, we went to war. And now there aint no going back. It's what war is you know? Once you're in it, you're in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie, but we gotta fight!

08-02-2005, 09:23 PM	#681
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,809	yea, the kid was a shoe in. was

08-02-2005, 09:31 PM	#683
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	I was gonna add that

08-02-2005, 09:38 PM	#684
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,809	yea, I can't see any more posts. what the fuck

08-02-2005, 09:39 PM	#685
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Ryan Franklin has always been my favorite M to pick on but this is ridiculous. He had to use steroids to achieve a 6+ ERA, imagine how shitty he woulda been withotu them. Our rotation is almost Ranger-bad now

08-02-2005, 09:40 PM	#686
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	BTW, first team in MLB to have multiple cheaters

08-02-2005, 10:11 PM	#687
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	What do you think of his protests.. that he didn't take anything knowingly. In Canada, we've heard this before (Ben Johnson), however, Silken Laugman (sp?) was also banned for... well I don't think it was a steriod, but something when she took one of those nasal mists. Me, I'd like to believe him. Who knows though.

08-02-2005, 10:25 PM	#688
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	I don't buy his excuses at all. Even if he is innocent, I don't care because we get to see an AAA guy for the next 10 days instead of that bum Franklin

08-02-2005, 10:41 PM	#689
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	I was referring to Raphy, BTW

08-02-2005, 10:44 PM	#690
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	You know, Palmeiro was under oath. If he has lied, and it is a known fact that he lied, he could face up to 5 years in jail. I doubt they'd ever go after him, but it makes for interesting talk.

08-03-2005, 12:15 AM	#691
Terra Ryzin Posts: 220	David Wright is the man NEW YORK -- Rafael Palmeiro said he didn't knowingly ingest steroids. The Mets are trying not to make the same mistake. "It's scary to realize that you can buy things at GNC or at a Vitamin Shoppe that could show up positive in a drug test," Mets third baseman David Wright said. "But on the other hand, we're professional athletes and we have to be responsible for what we put in our body and we need to check with our team doctors, our trainers to make sure what we do put in our bodies are legal and are allowed." "I think it's still surprising," Wright said of the suspensions this season. "Maybe I'm na�ve that nobody would want to cheat, to put things in their bodies that would give them an advantage over everybody else. "But then again, I'm kind of 'old school' where I think that you get to where you want to be through hard work rather than having to take any kind of illegal supplements." Wright, ever the optimist, repeatedly moved for the issue to be resolved, simply so everyone could remember what a great game baseball still is. "I think the first thing to get back on the right track is catching these people who are using steroids and punishing them," Wright said. "Hopefully, it won't happen again. Hopefully, a year from now we're talking about pennant races and Wild Card races [instead of] steroid use and drug use in baseball."

08-03-2005, 12:15 AM	#692
Boomer The Wretched Posts: 4,690	He tested positive for stanozolol, a potent steroid says ESPN. Ben Johnson got stripped of the gold for it... How about Raphy?

08-03-2005, 03:25 AM	#693
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Manny knocks in 3 RBIs to boost his total to 97. Red Sox win it by one run.

08-03-2005, 10:26 AM	#694
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	Stanozolol isn't found in any supplement (if I remember correctly anyway..). That's the very same steriod that fucked over Ben Johnson.

08-03-2005, 01:08 PM	#696
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	They will mostly likely win the West, if they do they will lose to the Red Sox in the first round. If they win the wild card however they will play Chicago and probably sweep them. Amazing that they're doing this in a rebuilding year. 2006-8 are really their years

08-03-2005, 01:40 PM	#697
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,988	They havent traded or signed anyone. They have the same roster they had opening day. Zito has been average at best. Mark Kotsay is like there star player.

08-03-2005, 01:41 PM	#698
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,988	Billy Bean should run baseball.

08-03-2005, 02:30 PM	#699
OssMan The Classic Dylan Staples Posts: 51,129	Yeah whatever Raffy took is "practically impossible" to ingest unknowingly

08-03-2005, 03:22 PM	#700
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	What? They've picked up: Jay Payton (HUGE upgrade over Spaz Byrnes, good power, clutch hitter) Joe Kennedy (lefty long-man, gives them depth in the rotation if someone gets injured) Jay Witasick (excellent setup man, along with Calero and Duchscherer they now have best RH setup in the league) They've gotten rid of: Spaz Byrnes (fast and good pop but stupidest player in MLB and defensive liability) Chad Bradford (kills righties but they already have a Roogy and he si always on the DL) Dan Johnson and Huston Street were not on the opening day roster; Johnson is leading the team in hitting and is 10000x better than Hatteberg and Street is the Rookie of the Year. Zito is having his best year since 2002 (Cy Young). The stats are deceiving, he had one awful month but has been one of the top 5 starters in MLB the last 2 months. Kotsay is good, yes, but the offense is anchored by Crosby Chavez and Kendall Again, what?

08-03-2005, 03:43 PM	#701
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,687	What I don't understand is Oakland/Bay Area fans. They have the 7th worst attendance in baseball this year and the fans never seem to come out for them even though they put out a solid team year in and year out. They're averaging almost 15,000 less people a game than the Giants who are garbage.

08-03-2005, 03:51 PM	#702
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	THE NEV EPISODE

08-03-2005, 04:14 PM	#703
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,988	OK . But yah the A's are good.

08-03-2005, 04:34 PM	#704
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	HEY, FUCK YOU. If anyone should have made this thred it should have been me.

08-03-2005, 04:35 PM	#705
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	OKAKLAND F'N A'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

08-03-2005, 04:38 PM	#706
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,988	You're a horrible A's fan

08-03-2005, 04:39 PM	#707
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	God, I miss the bay area. I want to go to a game so bad. I think the NL West plays the AL west next year though, so I might luck out if they come to AZ. And yeah, what Miz said. They will crush the White Sox if they meet them in the playoffs. If it's the Red Sox, then they will probly win the first 2 and lose the last 3. Like every year. The bandwagon is full Rectal Pertruder. Please leave.

08-03-2005, 04:44 PM	#709
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	Fuck, I remember when I was a kid and the A's were terrible in the 90's. You could go to a game for something like $8. BART ride, cheap bleacher seats, and maybe a dollar hot dog night and it would be around $8 or something.

08-03-2005, 08:43 PM	#710
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	It's hard not to like the A's. I've liked them going back to the mid 70's. Expos, Jays, M's, A's. I'd say that would be my order of favourites. Minus the 'sP0s now of course.

08-03-2005, 09:42 PM	#712
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Chacin has been very, very good, but he is a #3 starter on a team that will not make the playoffs. Street is one of the key contributors to the resurgence of a team that most likely make the playoffs. His ERA is well under 2 and he could finish with 20-25 saves. Oakland's pen is arguably the best in the AL and he is the leader of it. Sorry but there is no pressure starting in Toronto on a .500 team. Street is 21 and was brought in to replace Octavio Dotel as the Oakland A's closer and has been unbelievable. Chacin = very good Street = excellent

08-03-2005, 09:56 PM	#713
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	I say you're wrong, however, we shall see.

08-03-2005, 10:04 PM	#714
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	The only chance he has of losing it is if his teamate Nick Swisher takes away some of his votes. If by the end of the season his statline looks something like 21/26 sv, 1.85, 70+ ip it will be hard to argue.