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Old 02-15-2022, 12:18 PM   #41
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I don’t expect all this to happen, but it would be absolutely hilarious if by the end of 2022 if:

* Cody has left because of creative differences and a disagreement as to what his status should be.

* Mox leaves because he wants to do whatever the fuck he wants, hang out with W. Morrisey in Impact and work New Japan.

* Bryan Danielson has left because Anthem has forced the door shut on any major AEW/New Japan involvement.

* CM Punk has faded out because this shit hurts too much and he’s fired his best creative shots for no ratings or PPV gain.

* Chris Jericho has left for his health and to save his legacy.

* Omega leaves because he’s a prima-donna who is hurt Will Ospreay is Meltzer’s new favorite, and if he can’t be the best, why bother?
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Old 02-15-2022, 12:19 PM   #42
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And as I’ve said: If TK has really bungled the New Japan deal, keeping Bryan Danielson may be trickier than originally thought. I would not be shocked if he is gone before his 3 year deal is up, because TK isn’t going to have the balls to act like Vince and hold people if they want out.
Why do you keep saying that AEW has "bungled the New Japan deal"... they have on NJPW guys constantly. Just had Jay White on last week...
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Why do you keep saying that AEW has "bungled the New Japan deal"... they have on NJPW guys constantly. Just had Jay White on last week...
Obviously it is AEW's fault that they can't send talent over to work in Japan due to the country still having their borders largely closed off to foreigners.
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I don’t expect all this to happen, but it would be absolutely hilarious if by the end of 2022 if:

* Cody has left because of creative differences and a disagreement as to what his status should be.

* Mox leaves because he wants to do whatever the fuck he wants, hang out with W. Morrisey in Impact and work New Japan.

* Bryan Danielson has left because Anthem has forced the door shut on any major AEW/New Japan involvement.

* CM Punk has faded out because this shit hurts too much and he’s fired his best creative shots for no ratings or PPV gain.

* Chris Jericho has left for his health and to save his legacy.

* Omega leaves because he’s a prima-donna who is hurt Will Ospreay is Meltzer’s new favorite, and if he can’t be the best, why bother?
Ramblings of a mad man.
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Why do you keep saying that AEW has "bungled the New Japan deal"... they have on NJPW guys constantly. Just had Jay White on last week...
He's just salty that AEW didn't pan out exactly the way he wanted. It doesn't align with his outdated vision of professional wrestling so it is trash.
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It'd be interesting if Cody debuts on WWE television and immediately goes for a Pedigree.
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Wow. Shocking. I love it. This kind of stuff makes this so interesting.
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How do they let him leave when they have a partnership with Go Big Show, when his show has been renewed for another season, and is streaming on HBO Max? Literally the one guy in their whole dumb company making them any outside money...

This has to be a work, Tony Khan cannot be that stupid.
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Old 02-15-2022, 01:06 PM   #52
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How do they let him leave when they have a partnership with Go Big Show, when his show has been renewed for another season, and is streaming on HBO Max? Literally the one guy in their whole dumb company making them any outside money...

This has to be a work, Tony Khan cannot be that stupid.
I think you are over playing the importance of Rhodes to the Top and The Go Big Show. Rhodes to the Top while very important to AEW fans like you, is not something that anyone has any interest in. And The Go Big Show can exist with any number of celebrity hosts not to mention an easy AEW replacement could be Paul Wight.

Also I was listening to Sean Ross Sapp and he said that he's only read one report that mentions Rhodes to the Top was getting a season 2, that it wasn't officially announced by Turner Media and probably isn't happening.

Also these streaming networks are trying to compile content good or bad, so much terrible content uploaded to Paramount, Peacock and HBO Max. Rhodes to the Top is not going to make anyone any money it's just junk in the trunk.

Cody Rhodes was never the main guy in AEW and didn't have what it takes to cut it after he was "gifted" a main event program with Jericho that he had "no right to be in" because he's just a mid-card panty-waste with a lisp and shit neck tattoo and a wife that is the dead worst in the world at being a pro wrestling character.

Cody turned his back on those that made him and has taken anything good his Daddy ever taught him and stamped it on the ground. Cody and Brandi are traitors and if they so much as dare cross the line into the WWE locker room I hope they get buried worse than Mike and Maria Kanellis.
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Why do you keep saying that AEW has "bungled the New Japan deal"... they have on NJPW guys constantly. Just had Jay White on last week...
I said IF they’ve bungled the New Japan deal.

Anthem owns AXS, which is the channel that now airs New Japan. Again. AXS also owns Impact Wrestling, who is a competitor of AEW. Jay White appearing on Dynamite, probably for a large sum of money, doesn’t really stir me. We haven’t seen anyone of any real note in AEW yet. People keep blaming Covid, but isolation 10 days either way doesn’t make it impossible. We’re 2 years into borders being closed now and the world’s economies doing their best to factor in this new world. AEW has gotten, who? Minoru Suzuki and KENTA? Is Suzuki even signed to an exclusive New Japan deal?

We’ll see what happens. I’m just not going to be shocked if you never see Tanahashi, Okada or Ibushi in AEW, or if New Japan starts using gaijin from places other than AEW, because it makes logical sense to help out other promotions as opposed to the one that popped up and made it harder for anyone else to have gain or retain any traction.
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How do they let him leave when they have a partnership with Go Big Show, when his show has been renewed for another season, and is streaming on HBO Max? Literally the one guy in their whole dumb company making them any outside money...

This has to be a work, Tony Khan cannot be that stupid.
I’m willing to bet Cody feels his other properties are pretty secure, and he doesn’t need AEW to make them work or keep the spot. Going to WWE is probably bigger promotion for both of them than working in AEW anyway. Leaving AEW in general is a good story for his show.

TK no doubt wanted to keep Cody, but I think money and ego (justifiable or not) has come into the equation and TK just can’t go there.
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That Cody vs Sammy ladder match was a great send-off for Cody and he left AEW by making Sammy look stellar.
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I think you are over playing the importance of Rhodes to the Top and The Go Big Show. Rhodes to the Top while very important to AEW fans like you,

LOL this might be the first time ive ever been hit with the "you just think everything AEW does is good because you like AEW".

No, I am saying that Tony Khan trying to low ball offer the ONE guy that that brings more to the table than tshirt sales just further shows what an idiot he is.
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It'd be interesting if Cody debuts on WWE television and immediately goes for a Pedigree.

Vince - “Cody so glad to have you back on a two year deal, creative has come up with a new plan for you. We are going to see the return of Stardust at Wrestlemania or maybe SummerSlam. Just need you to film 3 months worth of vignettes and then have you debut on NXT 2.0”
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The crows are going to come back home to roost.

TK is paying talent so much money that even if they’re happy, they’re likely to just band together and cut him out in the future anyway. It also comes with guys looking at other people’s paychecks and trying to work out who is really worth that. This is what happens when you pay to play.
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Old 02-15-2022, 01:21 PM   #59
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If Cody works WrestleMania, I don’t know how the program isn’t him vs. The Miz.
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Cody vs Seth Rollins would be a fun WM program
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In-ring, sure. I can think of better uses for Seth though. I can’t see WWE passing up on the reality TV star program and getting the wives involved.
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I'm not even kidding when I say the outcome I'd actually want from this is Cody somehow getting an ownership stake in a mid-sized promotion like the NWA or ROH and just make that his place to keep doing Cody things and occasionally turn up in other promotions when there's a good reason for it.

As insufferable as I have found Cody at times, the thought of going back to WWE to end up being a Dolph Ziggler type after this initial return push feels a little depressing to me.
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It is an interesting day to say the least. Pretty shocked that Cody left, but like others have said, Tony Khan is content with bringing in people like Bryan Danielson and Punk rather than taking care of some of the people who have been there since the beginning.

I always just believed that Cody always claiming he would never challenge for the world title would actually happen one day and that would be the way that he would fully turn heel when he storyline just said "Fuck you guys, I am EVP, I'm getting a title shot right now". Now there will never be a payoff for that.
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Didn’t see that one coming tbh. I have enjoyed Cody’s work so it’s a shame I won’t see it anymore. I hope he’s going to something decent in WWE not a mod card reign, he’s past that now.

On an increasingly stacked roster with the “I won’t be world champion” gimmick I did wonder where he fit in longterm more and more. I don’t think anyone expected to look up this soon after inception and have the level of main eventers and attractions they have at AEW.

Hoping for good things for Cody… hoping he’s the guy to unseat Roman frankly.
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Cody probably had the best of intentions in terms of helping to build a company but with AEW getting all of the free agents from WWE, maybe he just doesn't want to be a part of that anymore. Everything in AEW is built around the Young Bucks/Omega/The Elite. It's almost like a modern day storyline similar to the NWO and how they controlled shit (except it doesn't have Hogan/Nash/Hall/Bischoff to run it into the ground)
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As much as reality TV is hammed up for drama, that period between August and September really might've had an impact on him.

He lost to Malakai on August 4th and got written off. Punk returned a few days later making it the biggest story in wrestling. Bryan and Cole were in a month later. Doubtless, Cody knew Punk and Bryan were coming in and probably knew Cole would be too once he wrapped up his NXT angles, but I don't think he anticipated getting the shit booed out of him by the largest audience in AEW history when he returned.

AEW always would've had a spot for Cody, but the crowd was likely to keep rejecting him. Kinda sad to think that last fall Cody was possibly wrestling with very real thoughts that the company he helped found didn't really need him anymore.
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Old 02-15-2022, 02:21 PM   #67
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Could see Cody just being happy to wrassle again and not be a "suit" or whatever. Give it a couple years in WWE and call it a day.
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Fightful says he wanted a "big money deal" and AEW apparently wasn't willing/able to give it. I can imagine WWE is offering him a lot because signing away one of AEW's top stars and an "EVP" is very valuable...
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Wow, AEW experiencing money troubles? Shad Khan wouldn't give Tony a raise for his allowance.
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Old 02-15-2022, 02:32 PM   #71
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Tony comes from extreme wealth, but AEW the company still has a budget, and while they can pull from the Khan family fortune in an emergency, they set up AEW to be a self-sufficient company.

WWE has vastly more money to throw at Cody without any worry about it impacting their bottom line. If WWE puts out a contract that would require Tony to borrow more money from his dad, AEW is unlikely to match that. At least at this point anyways. Pre- Punk and Bryan maybe they would have but those two are inarguably bigger stars than Cody and I doubt Cole, Lee, or anyone else they've added since are on anything close to that kind of wage.

If Cody wanted a mega-deal, WWE are the only choice. If he's content to go back there to take a paycheck from them, more power to him. Get your money and have sex on a pile of money with the missus.
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I expect Jericho and Moxley to return to WWE too in the future and AEW will be just fine.
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Why does everybody just assume Cody would be a midcarder in WWE. He basically did what McIntyre did before coming back to WWE but on an even larger level. I would legit bring him in and build towards him vs the WWE Champ at Mania, whether that be Lashley or Rollins. Either of those matches would be money.
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If Cody works WrestleMania, I don’t know how the program isn’t him vs. The Miz.
You don’t know how? Try doing + Mayrse and + Brandi. Very WWE thing to do. I wouldn’t be oppose to it either.
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That was the first match I thought of as well. Or Edge and Beth
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Maryse and Brandi on the screen at the same time would make me very happy in the pantular region.
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Tony comes from extreme wealth, but AEW the company still has a budget, and while they can pull from the Khan family fortune in an emergency, they set up AEW to be a self-sufficient company.

WWE has vastly more money to throw at Cody without any worry about it impacting their bottom line. If WWE puts out a contract that would require Tony to borrow more money from his dad, AEW is unlikely to match that. At least at this point anyways. Pre- Punk and Bryan maybe they would have but those two are inarguably bigger stars than Cody and I doubt Cole, Lee, or anyone else they've added since are on anything close to that kind of wage.

If Cody wanted a mega-deal, WWE are the only choice. If he's content to go back there to take a paycheck from them, more power to him. Get your money and have sex on a pile of money with the missus.
That argument doesn't work when Tony Khan brags about how "he" has more money than WWE:

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https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/20...ve-more-money/

He is such a mark he actually believes his own bullshit. This turd has no money himself, he is basically 10 years old saying "my dad can beat your dad".
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Tony comes from extreme wealth, but AEW the company still has a budget, and while they can pull from the Khan family fortune in an emergency, they set up AEW to be a self-sufficient company.

WWE has vastly more money to throw at Cody without any worry about it impacting their bottom line. If WWE puts out a contract that would require Tony to borrow more money from his dad, AEW is unlikely to match that. At least at this point anyways. Pre- Punk and Bryan maybe they would have but those two are inarguably bigger stars than Cody and I doubt Cole, Lee, or anyone else they've added since are on anything close to that kind of wage.

If Cody wanted a mega-deal, WWE are the only choice. If he's content to go back there to take a paycheck from them, more power to him. Get your money and have sex on a pile of money with the missus.
I hope you’re not one of those people who cries every time WWE releases people for budgetary reasons.
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