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Old 04-07-2022, 09:48 AM   #161
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Feel like those weaknesses could be overcome by him having a good creative right hand man keeping him on the straight and narrow. Weird that his ego is telling him to do it all himself when he doesn't have a clue.

Because right now it seems like they're surviving on having some excellent matches and not much else. Again, this is from a guy who just tracks the results and watches some standout stuff so maybe I'm off base.
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Old 04-07-2022, 09:59 AM   #162
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Certainly. But when hes got people like Dave Meltzer, whose work he probably grew up reading, constantly blowing him, why would he feel the need to do anything different.
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Old 04-07-2022, 10:10 AM   #163
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“hey you’re a good wrestler and so is he, wrestle for 40 minutes” is about as complex as Dave’s thoughts are about the definition of good booking.
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Old 04-07-2022, 10:20 AM   #164
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They definitely need to utilize squash matches more. But the angles I’ve followed (like Punk and MJF) are MILES better than anything else in wrestling today.
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Old 04-07-2022, 10:38 AM   #165
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They definitely need to utilize squash matches more. But the angles I’ve followed (like Punk and MJF) are MILES better than anything else in wrestling today.
Yeah that stuff seems good. Wonder how much Tony actually has to do with it other than going "that seems cool, do what you need to Phil."
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Old 04-07-2022, 10:43 AM   #166
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I have to imagine guys like Punk and Danielson have a large degree of creative control, and thats precisely why everything theyre involved in is so much better than everything else on the show.
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They definitely need to utilize squash matches more. But the angles I’ve followed (like Punk and MJF) are MILES better than anything else in wrestling today.
I feel like it's basic wrestling 101 that when everyone has a competitive match, competitive matches lose all meaning.

Nice to see Samoa Joe basically squashed Max Caster.
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Old 04-07-2022, 10:53 AM   #168
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I saw they had another actual squash a few weeks ago too. Seems like they’re slowly being sprinkled in. Tony’s learning on the job basically so stuff like that is a good sign.

And the Punk-MJF thing was definitely a lot of Punk and MJF working on it together. Which is great. The more wrestling leans toward a wrestlers business and away from a promoter’s business, the better.
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Overcrowding is an issue, but even if he had a streamlined roster, TK wouldn’t be using people correctly. He’s always booking in the shadow of something else. Who has he brought in that feels better than the thing you actually remember them for?

He also lets the guys use their instincts when it comes to executing stuff, but he lets people with no instincts have that freedom too. So that drags down the entire show and distracts from guys like CM Punk or FTR.
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Old 04-07-2022, 06:02 PM   #177
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I know/care very little about Tony Khan and what he does or his experience so I’ve got no agenda one way or another.

What I will say is that AEW is largely very enjoyable, but also has quite a few faults.

- Rather than bad booking, I’d say overly repetitive booking is the issue. The Hardy Boys/Sting and Darby have come out to rescue each other for the last 4-6 weeks.
- Looooooong feuds. Darby and Sting have been feuding with Andrade and co for soooo long even after some really good matches that seemed like the blow off match of the feud. The Darby and Andrade match last week was really good, why carry the feud on still. The same applies for Adam Cole and friends vs Jurassic express and any feud involving Best Friends
- Too guys have a week off here and there is good and keeps them fresh, but then you go without the likes of Pac, Penta, Miro, House of Black for so long yet make room for Red Velvet vs Leila Hirsch
- There’s a huge Cody shaped gap in the roster right now. He was far and away the one guy who came across as a big star. The entire presentation of him, only matches right now by Malakai Black. Omega’s absence is also very noticeable right now.
- Adam Cole and friends need to go. They are so bad. There’s so many better tag teams than Fish and O’Riley. And Adam Cole would maybe be a decent commentator or maybe he should have had Garcia’s position in Jerichos stable or something
- They should get rid of Rampage. I enjoyed AEW a lot more when it was just Dynamite.
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Old 04-07-2022, 06:04 PM   #178
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Wardlow is great right now. But I get the feeling he’s going to be fighting his way through security guards for the next 4-6 weeks before anything different happens in the feud
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I quite like Samoa Joe. Seems like he would fit in with what Mox and Danielson are doing, or maybe be a guy that eventually stands up to them. But would still rather both of them were doing their own thing still.
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Old 04-07-2022, 06:14 PM   #181
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Wardlow needs to spend a couple months throwing around jobbers like he threw around those security guards last week.
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By the way, there’s a lot more positive things than the negatives I’ve listed above, but just by fixing a few frustrating areas they’d be so much better
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The key with jobber matches is they allow for so much character work. Low stakes and you can basically cut a promo the whole time, talking smack to the camera. And even if you're a babyface, you can wrestle kind of like a heel just to look impressive.
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I know/care very little about Tony Khan and what he does or his experience so I’ve got no agenda one way or another.

What I will say is that AEW is largely very enjoyable, but also has quite a few faults.

- Rather than bad booking, I’d say overly repetitive booking is the issue. The Hardy Boys/Sting and Darby have come out to rescue each other for the last 4-6 weeks.
- Looooooong feuds. Darby and Sting have been feuding with Andrade and co for soooo long even after some really good matches that seemed like the blow off match of the feud. The Darby and Andrade match last week was really good, why carry the feud on still. The same applies for Adam Cole and friends vs Jurassic express and any feud involving Best Friends
- Too guys have a week off here and there is good and keeps them fresh, but then you go without the likes of Pac, Penta, Miro, House of Black for so long yet make room for Red Velvet vs Leila Hirsch
- There’s a huge Cody shaped gap in the roster right now. He was far and away the one guy who came across as a big star. The entire presentation of him, only matches right now by Malakai Black. Omega’s absence is also very noticeable right now.
- Adam Cole and friends need to go. They are so bad. There’s so many better tag teams than Fish and O’Riley. And Adam Cole would maybe be a decent commentator or maybe he should have had Garcia’s position in Jerichos stable or something
- They should get rid of Rampage. I enjoyed AEW a lot more when it was just Dynamite.
Agree with all of this...
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What’s everyone’s thoughts on the name “Blackpool Combat Club” . I feel like to an American, “Blackpool” probably sounds like a fairly cool/badass place. It’s far from it lol. So to me the name is hilarious and cheesy.
Don't really like it... Don't like that whole stable and how it's centered around Regal. Idk why everyone "creams themselves" over Regal... He is prob great as a backstage guy or whatever but never found him interesting at all on screen. Feels like the stable has made Bryan Danielson irrelevant... just stands there as Regal and Moxley say shit... not good
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Feel like they should have told this to the commentary team so they could actually explain it and not also be confused at Jeff Hardy still being involved after he was eliminated...

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Good luck expecting Tony to be a good Booker without Cody reigning him in. Tony's booking about to run wild like Vince Russo in WCW. He certainly isnt going to say no to wrestlers he is fanboying for like Phil or Jericho.
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To me the thing with Adam Cole is I like him, I enjoy watching him work, but he’s literally been the same character his entire time in ROH, NXT, and now AEW. He’s really not evolved at all. And when you’re on a roster where so many guys look revitalized by a new space and/or are doing some of the best work of their careers, just doing the same thing you’ve always done can only get you so far.

In some ways I’d say Adam Cole is like the MCU. I like the MCU, sometimes I come out of an MCU movie having absolutely loved it, but generally speaking I know what the formula is going to be heading in and am rarely surprised heading out, and that's how I feel about Adam Cole's stuff.
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That’s a good assessment. For me the only way Cole would have made a spalsh on main roster WWE would have been if they’d brought up Undisputed Era wholesale so they had the numbers advantage. I could have bought Cole as a champ who used the other guys to stay on top. But that would have been a limited run. As soon as you break him away from a group he lacks credibility. For some reason the Undisputed Elite thing seems like more of a retread on AEW than it would have on Raw/SmackDown. Not sure what you do with him.
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I saw they had another actual squash a few weeks ago too. Seems like they’re slowly being sprinkled in. Tony’s learning on the job basically so stuff like that is a good sign.

And the Punk-MJF thing was definitely a lot of Punk and MJF working on it together. Which is great. The more wrestling leans toward a wrestlers business and away from a promoter’s business, the better.
Until you lean too far. Then you get CYN.
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Feel like they should have told this to the commentary team so they could actually explain it and not also be confused at Jeff Hardy still being involved after he was eliminated...

They talked about it, covered off both members must go through the table and as it was a no DQ the eliminated partner could not cause a DQ.
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Adam Cole needed NXT. He’s trash in AEW. Wouldn’t surprise me if WWE low-balled him because they knew how much he struggled to look in-shape. They’re better off without him and AEW is worse off with him.
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I’ve got news for you. Adam Cole is trash in general. NXT pushing him harder isn’t exactly a point in their favor.
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Adam Cole can go to hell.
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He’s probably a great guy. But he’s flaked mentally now he’s “free.” Doesn’t seem to appreciate why he was kept on the straight and narrow in NXT in the first place. He’s now a worse version of himself getting a lot of airplay on the other show. If you liked NXT, you would have liked it better there. If you didn’t, why do you want to see him looking more weathered on your show in the first place?
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Nice to see people turning on Adam Cole here.... I think people used to love him..... While for me I never saw any potential for him outside of Undisputed Era....

I remember everyone going nuts for a match he had vs Johnny Gargano and I was just like "ugh" and it was the beginning of the end of me watching NXT.....
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Nice to see people turning on Adam Cole here.... I think people used to love him..... While for me I never saw any potential for him outside of Undisputed Era....

I remember everyone going nuts for a match he had vs Johnny Gargano and I was just like "ugh" and it was the beginning of the end of me watching NXT.....
I had to squint to see it. Didn’t care about him in ROH/New Japan at all. And I had cooled way off on NXT by the time he was there. Post-Owens NXT really felt like something else to me. But I heard Cornette say lots of great things about him, so I tried to give him a chance:

I thought he looked too much like a “normal guy” then. But I tried to see this charm in him being kind of unassuming. I could buy into the bit of swagger that was there. I think he worked too much around indy-style high spots. But everything I could try to like about the guy has been downplayed and everything that put me off has been enhanced.
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I’ve got news for you. Adam Cole is trash in general. NXT pushing him harder isn’t exactly a point in their favor.
He’s not bad. He talks well, he’s solid in the ring. He’s just small and doughy. The orange Cassidy feud didn’t do him any favors, but as a transitions challenger to better babyfaces he’s fine. They shouldn’t put the belt on him under any circumstances though. TNT belt would be fine, but nothing higher than that.
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Adam Cole is infinitely better than Adam Page. Adam Page looks like he was on WWE Tough Enough and had to pick a costume, and landed on Cowboy.
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