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Old 06-14-2014, 09:10 PM   #401
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Well after a fucking pitiful performance against the Padres, I will take a page out of Damian Rey's book and take a look at some trade candidates for the Mets:

BARTOLO COLON
I expect Colon's name to be tossed around more than any other Met at the deadline. He's given up a lot of home runs this year and his overall numbers don't look particularly flashy, but then again the 4/13 start against the Angels and 5/12 start against the Yankees really fucked up his numbers. Take those out and he's having a very solid year, especially in his last 5 starts where he's put up a 1.83 ERA. I'm not convinced a contender will give up much more than a mid-level prospect for him given that he's 41 and is under contract for 2015 at $11 million. But, he has a rubber arm and is dependable so I'd guess the Mets will still get plenty of calls on him. With Harvey coming back next year to go along with all of their other young pitching they probably won't need him.

DANIEL MURPHY
Murph has been the Mets' most consistent hitter all season, made even more apparent with Wright in a complete tailspin over the past couple of weeks. As of right now, Murph is slashing .299/.356/.419 with 16 doubles. Not a big power hitter (has 5 HR now, usually gets around 10-13) but he absolutely knows how to find the gaps. Easily the Met most deserving of going to Minnesota in July. He's got one year of arbitration left and is forecasted to get somewhere around $10 million for 2015. He isn't really good defensively and makes some dumb baserunning decisions, but he is pretty much the perfect hitter for Citi Field. For that reason, I'd really want the Mets to lock him down for like 4 years and $40 million since he'll surely want more than that if he has another big year next year, but I doubt the Mets do it. Overall it would take a big haul for the Mets to move Murph now, they're more likely to trade him next year or keeping him through 2015 and letting him leave for nothing, but I figured he was at least worth being in the discussion.

DILLON GEE
Gee's injury was really shitty timing. He's been red hot ever since May 2013. Was putting together a really solid campaign this year with a 2.73 ERA and 1.06 WHIP. He'll hopefully be back by July. I expect there will still be interest in him, though. He's still relatively young at 28, under team control for 3 more seasons, and is showing that 2013 wasn't a fluke. In a way I feel bad for Dillon. Everybody knows the Mets need to deal from their pitching depth, and Gee is always the one that gets cast off with Harvey, Wheeler, Syndergaard, Niese, deGrom, Montero, Verrett, etc. all in the mix for next year. If I had to guess I'd say the Mets keep him this year and hope for a huge second half to maximize his trade value for the off-season. Either way I'd be fairly surprised if he is a Met in 2016.

BOBBY ABREU
I'm listing Abreu here, at age 40 he's worked his way back into the starting lineup although that might say more about the state of the Mets than Abreu himself. Still, he's slashing .307/.379/.453 in limited play and could get some suitors looking for a veteran presence off the bench. Every year though the Mets find themselves with a veteran having a good year that they SHOULD trade (Scott Hairston in 2012, LaTroy Hawkins last year) and they never pull the trigger because they want to pretend they care about the second half even when they're clearly not a playoff team. Could see that being the case with Abreu this year.

DAISUKE MATSUZAKA
Dice-K has been way better than I ever thought possible this year. He only recently got forced into the rotation out of necessity, but really I think his best value is out of the bullpen (even if he does have to comically start warming up 3 innings before he enters the game). His versatility may have extended his MLB career, as he's done enough good this year where I could see him landing a job somewhere next year. Much like Abreu the Mets might keep him anyway and I doubt teams would be knocking down the doors for him, but I could see a contender wanting to add a swingman for depth.

CHRIS YOUNG
I'm not sure why I'm even putting him on this list. Best case scenario for him was that he had a decent first half and got flipped for a mid-level prospect in July. That's no longer in play because Young has been fucking atrocious, slashing .196/.283/.313 and he makes $7.5 million. Mets would need to pay his entire salary in a trade and they wouldn't get anything for him, anyway. He got the golden sombrero today, starting only because Granderson is hurt. It's telling that he's otherwise been benched even with Juan Lagares and Eric Young Jr on the DL. Just what a waste. I didn't think it was possible for a 1-year deal to be THIS bad but somehow it has been. I shed a tear thinking of what the Mets could have done with that $7.5 million. Hell they still could have brought CY in for about 1/4 of the price if they had just waited rather than blowing him away with an offer in fucking November. Hopefully they just release him outright once Lagares gets back. A total sunk cost.

Honorable mention would go to Jon Niese, who might be in serious All Star Game consideration. Having a really good year, is young, left-handed, and has a team-friendly contract. Could probably get a good return for him. Would be shocked if the Mets move him though since there are no lefty SPs on the horizon. Closest is probably Steven Matz, who is only in Single A and has 2 more option years left.
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Old 06-16-2014, 11:45 AM   #402
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Hall of Famer Tony Gwynn has passed away. . RIP

Only 54...fuck cancer.
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Old 06-16-2014, 11:56 AM   #403
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Hall of Famer Tony Gwynn has passed away. . RIP

Only 54...fuck cancer.
Dude was a dipper. Very glad I quit. That's the kind of shit that scared me into quitting.
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Old 06-16-2014, 04:04 PM   #407
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Old 06-19-2014, 03:24 AM   #417
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Well, it took a few days for me to get on here and actually say anything, but I have no where else to really vent this, so here it goes.

If you've even remotely followed anything I have said in this thread, you notice two things. I love baseball, and I fucking love my Padres. But before I gave two shits about either of those things, I loved Tony Gwynn. He was the sole reason I ever bothered to watch the games in the first place. I'm not sure how or why, but I just remember being an 8 yr old kid who all of sudden took an interest in watching a not so muscular, chubby guy in his 30's punch the ball all over the field, and I was hooked.

I collected everything Tony Gwynn. Magazines, bobble heads, baseball cards, posters, newspaper clippings. EVERYTHING. I wore my Tony Gywnn number 19 t-shirt for Halloween multiple years in a row. I legit idolized this man I had never met, but never heard one bad thing about.


My entire day as a kid was built around baseball and watching Tony hit. Once my youth league games were over, I'd want to rush home, and make sure that, no matter what I missed, I didn't miss Tony's at bats. I'd take half assed 2 minute showers knwoing he was due up the next inning. I'd scarf down my dinner to get back to the living room to watch him hit. I put everything in my life on hold 4 times a night because nothing mattered more to me than watching my favorite player do his thing.

I saw all of his great moments in the back 9 of his career. His WS homerun off David Wells was amazing. My favorite player of all time crushed a pitch, at Yankee stadium, to give my team the lead. I watched intently has he lined his 3000th hit into center field in front an empty stadium in Montreal. I remember his first grand slam, his only inside the park homerun, etc. I was an addict to his watching his game.

As I grew older, I more and more wanted to emulate Gwynn. I stopped caring if I'd ever hit a homerun, and just tried to make contact. I mimicked his stance ( to little success), his plate mannerisms. I played right field, even though the "scrubs" were the ones who played there when I was a kid. He was my everything for baseball. He was everything I wanted to be as a player. Humble. Loyal. Insanely consistent and successful. but nothing flashy or over the top.

As I continued to play and not be entirely successful in youth baseball, I began to be more and more inspired by my hero. I knew for a long time Tony had watched himself relentlessly through video tape. The minute I figured out how to work my parents old camera and plug the feed into the tv, I started doing the same, having my brother throw whiffle balls at me while the camera was capturing a profile shot. I hadn't a fucking clue exactly what I was looking for, but I knew to only focus on the good swings and good hits.

This continued into high school. Video equipment was not readily available, so trying to tape myself in front of my teammates was a doomed idea, but, after "borrowing" at a batting tee I still own to this day, I was able to continually tape and photograph my swing off the tee and through soft toss from my unwilling brother, trying to mimmick success, just like my hero.

I legit, no joke, do this to this day. I, being a 28 year old man, playing in Sunday adult baseball leagues the last decade, still bring my camera and tripod to the dugout, and set that bad boy up to tape my at bats. It sounds ridiculous that I take something so serious, but it's true. I tape my damn at bats. I tape my rounds off the tee in my garage at home. I tape my batting practice session with my best friend during the week, shooting the shit for hours talking hitting mechanics, getting my foot down, throwing my hands, and all other kinds of jargon about hitting and trying to get better. And then I go home, ignore my poor, enduring wife, while I pour over hours of video looking for the constant in my good swings. All because, to this day, 20 years after first seeing him play, I still want to be like Tony Gwynn.

Like everyone, I had to accept that my hero's time was winding down. I distinctly remember Tony's press conference, following two miserable seasons of injuries and missing a gross amount of time, where he announced it was time to call it day at the end of 2001. I was crushed. I was already 15 years old, and I still needed my mommy to console me, because I didn't know who I was gonna root for or care about when he was gone. Who was I going to watch and emulate if Tony isn't around? I somehow lucked out, and got great seats from a family friend to attend Tony's last game. At this point, Tony was limited to making a joke out of pinch hitting, punching a .300 plus average while doing so. He ended up grounding out Juan Uribe, who was the Rockies shortstop at the time. Tony took his time jogging off the field, and tipped his helmet. I remember it like it was yesterday. My favorite game I've ever been to.

I was in my truck driving to work on Monday morning, wearing, no joke, my 98 pinstripe T. Gwynn jersey (fav jersey, btw). I had just gotten gas and was heading to work, and as I accelerated up the on ramp, I hear dead silence on the radio where a news bumper usually plays, leading to a top story spot. The announce came on, clearly wavering, and stated "The greatest athlete in San Diego history has passed away". For a split second I tried to process who the fuck he could be talking about. He then followed "Tony Gwynn passed away this morning...". I, quite literally yelped, put my hand over my mouth, and tears started to roll down my face.

The man I had spent my entire life trying to mimick, trying my best to emulate, was gone. A man I had never met, yet felt such a deep connection to, was no longer with us. My hero. My idle. Gone. I still cannot put into words how empty I feel. It is still hitting, hard, that a man who I spent my entire childhood looking up to was no longer in this world.

I know it can, and likely, sounds at least a bit silly to cry tears for a man, a person, I never had the pleasure of meeting. But Tony meant a lot to me. My dad, for all the great things he has provided me, and the great things he's taught me as a man, was not, in any way, shape or form, into baseball. My mom was, but not like me. I didn't have that male figure in my life to look up to and learn from and be my mentor. That's what Tony was for me. Everything I wanted to be as a person, as a player, and as a man, was what Tony was. Kind, generous, humble. That's how I modeled myself, and it's still how I continue to try and carry myself.

I will never get to tell him this, but Tony, you meant thw world to me, and you had a big part in shaping who I am. Thank you for being the man who made me fall in love forever with the greatest game on earth. You will be missed. R.I.P #19.
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And the Orioles are the only team to beat him. So ha..

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Cubs beat him if memory serves me correctly.
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I remember he gave up the 3 run homer to Schoop but he got a ND in the Yankees 5-4 loss. That and the cubs game were the only two games the Yankees lost that he's started.
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Look, I'm not saying the Cubs will make the playoffs, but if they win today and the Cards lose, they'll only be 5 1/2 back in the Wild Card. The national league wild card spots are completely up for grabs right now. I'd like to see where we're at a week from now before we go trading a sure Ace for a bunch of unproven prospects ( which makes no sense btw ). Rizzo and Castro are really doing a great job right now. Castro is on fire. I really wanna ride this out a few weeks.
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The Mets are somehow only 5.5 out of the division despite being 8 games under .500. I remember when the NL East used to be good.
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Old 06-21-2014, 10:12 AM   #425
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I'm always nostalgic about the 2006 Mets for obvious reasons, but jesus I've even been pining for 2007-08 lately. Yeah they collapsed spectacularly but at least they could score more than 2 runs a game.
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Old 06-21-2014, 10:47 AM   #427
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I'd like to think that if they're still within 5 games of the division lead in July, they'll consider trading from their pitching depth for a big bat. But I doubt it. As it is Harvey was trying to make a push to get back by August, a year after his TJS but the Mets are now banning him from throwing off a mound even though doctors have already OK'ed Harvey for the activity. They don't want him pitching this year. It's like they don't want the fans to think they have any aspirations of winning before 2015.
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In other news, there was a 3-1-3 putout in the Cardinals game last night. That's odd.
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Schoop now has 2 hrs off Tanaka. O's currently up 7-0 in the 9th.
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Damn, Tanaka took the loss and the bullpen made it worse.

Yankees couldn't hit a lick today.

In other news, Padres fire GM Josh Byrnes.
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Damn, Tanaka took the loss and the bullpen made it worse.

Yankees couldn't hit a lick today.

In other news, Padres fire GM Josh Byrnes.
They had one good inning at the plate the entire series (4 run 9th inning Friday)

Orioles should have left NY with the sweep. Pisses me off but anyway.
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They had one good inning at the plate the entire series (4 run 9th inning Friday)

Orioles should have left NY with the sweep. Pisses me off but anyway.
At this rate it'll be the Yankees/Orioles fighting in September for the division, unless Red Sox turn things around quickly
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The Derby is also expanding to 10 participants while shrinking the number of outs from 10 to 7. They're also doing seeding after the first round. The guys who finish 4th and 5th in each league get knocked out, 2nd and 3rd play each other, winner plays the 1st seed, and then whoever wins THAT meets the winner from the other league in the finals.

Even with 7 outs the Derby is prolly gonna take like 5 hours.
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Old 06-24-2014, 10:34 PM   #438
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I'm late to the party again, but boy do I not agree with the firing of Josh Byrnes. I admit I had my reservations about him when they replaced a departing Jed Hoyer with him, but I think he's done a solid job, considering his limitations.

I still would not have done it, but he didn't lose on the Cashner/Rizzo trade. Cash has been the team's best pitcher the last 2 seasons, and has filled in nicely for Latos. Speaking of Latos, even though I wouldn't have done that trade either, it's not like he got a couple of bums in Yonder Alonso and Yasmani Grandal. Both were legit highly touted prospects when they got here, who have since been derailed by either lack of playing time and, in both cases, injuries.

He also raped the Athletics, twice, for Tyson Ross, another great starting pitcher, and Seth Smith, who's a top 20 in avg/obp/slg this year. Also, the Rays gave up Alex Torres and Jesse Hahn, both who have been impressive (especially Hahn), while Logan Forsythe has sucked on the Rays end of the deal.

He has also built a staff that has continued to draft well. Apparently ownership thought the current roster should be a more competitive team. Byrnes, or any GM, can't control that. I think player performances and lack of development as they get more experience falls on the manager, not the GM. I also think you'd have to have been an idiot to think the current roster, even if healthy and productive, would be better than the Giants and Dodgers. Maybe they're slightly above .500, but they wouldn't be a division contender. Sounds like ownership is a bunch of know nothings.

Now that he's gone, though, I'd love to see them pluck Jason McLeod from the Cubs. Think he's Jed Hoyer 2.0, and I loved Jed when he was here.
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He lost the Cashner/Rizzo trade. Rizzo is an MVP candidate if on a contender right now.
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There's a difference between losing and getting the lesser end of the deal. To say a team "lost" by acquiring a top of the rotation starter is assinine. Rizzo is, as I have conceded, the better of the two, but Cash isn't some schlub starting the middle or backend of their rotation. Cubs got the better end of the deal, yes. But the Padres did not lose out.

A loser trade to this point has been the Latos for Grandal/Alonso move, and that's more due to injuries. The haven't reaped any benefit out of that move after 2012.
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