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Old 09-13-2007, 09:19 PM   #681
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Well. Roger Goodell has droped the gavel on the Patriots.

Bill Belichick fined $500,000

Patriots fined $250,000

Team gives up their 1st round pick if they make the playoffs this year.

Their 2nd and 3rd if they don't.
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:19 PM   #682
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:53 PM   #683
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Well. Roger Goodell has droped the gavel on the Patriots.

Bill Belichick fined $500,000

Patriots fined $250,000

Team gives up their 1st round pick if they make the playoffs this year.

Their 2nd and 3rd if they don't.
Ouch. I read somewhere else about a possible problem that could be raised with the docking of the draft picks. Don't know the possibility of this but do you think the NFLPA could get involved on the basis that the first round pick the Pats are being docked could cost a potential NFL player first round money?
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:56 PM   #684
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Why?

Not saying you can't feel this way just wondering why and when did these feelings start? did you feel the same way under Carrol or Parcells?
Because he is an arrogant piece of shit and acts like a gigantic asshole everytime I see him anywhere. The whole Mangini handshake thing really annoyed me and the subsequent one where he sarcastically hugged him made me want to smash his face. Just his mannerisms and attitude in general. Obviously me being a Jets fan makes it easier to hate him but I would definitely hate him regardless.

And stima, "every player" is not writing it off. There was a huge ass article in the New York Post today with a bunch of players and coaches speaking out against the Pats, saying how it's not the 1st time they've done this and it makes sense and all this shit.
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:59 PM   #685
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Wooo...glad the Pats are losing a pick...but they still have the Niners 1st rounder so it doesn't really matter. But this just makes you wonder how often they cheated..and in which games. They will still make the playoffs..and espn will bleed this story until it bleeds some more during superbowl week when the Pats make it.
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Yea Joey Porter made some negative comments, watching on espn, among others.
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Chad Johnson as a TD celebration would prolly risk a fine to grab a camera after a score and act like hes filming the other teams def coord and secondarys coach lol.
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Giants are only the 17th most valuable NFL team so it'd be pretty easy to promote revenue sharing when you're in the bottom half of the league.
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Chad Johnson as a TD celebration would prolly risk a fine to grab a camera after a score and act like hes filming the other teams def coord and secondarys coach lol.

Someone please get ahold of Chad Johnson and give him that idea. lol
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Remember when Joe Horn pulled the cell phone from the goalpost? Terrible game as I remember it.
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And i'm positive that the Colts dont use cameras to video tape defensive signs. Not Tony Dungy. I'm sorry. And if you think Tony Dungy would do something like that, you have something wrong in your head. Tony Dungy dont cheat.

Obviously i cant be 100% sure that anyone on the Colts are not taking HGH. No one can. And that sucks. But i'm pretty damn sure none of them are so fucking retarded as to use an online steroid service and use there actual name and address. BRILLIANT!
I'm sorry, I did not realize you were an insider for the Indianapolis Colts. Are you the defensive line coach? Are you a team trainer? Oh wait, you are just an onlooking fan like the rest of us, so you really don't know shit about what is going behind the scenes, do you?

And I would be willing to bet that someone on the Colts is on HGH or something similar. In fact, I am willing to bet that the number of players in the NFL on that stuff is pretty considerable.
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I'm sorry, I did not realize you were an insider for the Indianapolis Colts. Are you the defensive line coach? Are you a team trainer? Oh wait, you are just an onlooking fan like the rest of us, so you really don't know shit about what is going behind the scenes, do you?

And I would be willing to bet that someone on the Colts is on HGH or something similar. In fact, I am willing to bet that the number of players in the NFL on that stuff is pretty considerable.

I'm sorry, but the Colts have never been caught with a camera on there sidelines . I did not realize you lived in some poor white trash fucked up world where you consider people guilty before any type of evidence is even found on them. Sounds to me like your a bitter peice of shit that see's one team get busted and all of a sudden wants to cast a wide net of guilt on every other team even tho you have know fucking clue what your even talking about.

Oh and I"M SORRY if you cant read. And you maybe didnt catch that second paragraph where i said theres no way i could be 100% sure if anyone on the Colts is on steroids and that, that sucked.

I dont have to be an insider or a trainer. Its called having faith in my team to do the right thing. And you know what there Dipshit. I can have that faith still to this moment because / gasp they've been caught cheating. OMG. Maybe you, as a Cowboy fan, watch your favorite teams on your couch saying " What if this, what if that ". What if there cheating, what if there on roids. What if your a moron. I dunno. I actually deal in facts and last time i checked, the Colts have never been caught using video cameras. So to answer you question of how do i know? Its a simple answer. I know because they've never been busted for using cameras. Therefore i have no reason to believe otherwise. Its pretty nice too. I can wake up and actually respect my team. You know, not have to worry about my favorite wide reciever get busted for snorting crack.
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Because he is an arrogant piece of shit and acts like a gigantic asshole everytime I see him anywhere. The whole Mangini handshake thing really annoyed me and the subsequent one where he sarcastically hugged him made me want to smash his face. Just his mannerisms and attitude in general. Obviously me being a Jets fan makes it easier to hate him but I would definitely hate him regardless.
I guess we just see him more and he doesn't always act like that. He took the Mangini to the Jets personal, might have had something to do with Belicheck's fall out with the Jets or I believe Belicheck gave Mangini his first job in football (ball boy) and when he made him the DC most people thought Mangini wasn't ready and Belicheck gave him the job.

Anyway, most succesful coach's or even people in general are arrogant to some extent... they did a Bill Belicheck v. Red Auerbach comparison the other day on how they did things.

I don't hate the Jets, never had... Dolphins were the team that always drove me nuts cause the Pats could never beat them down there (till 1985 playoffs).

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Wooo...glad the Pats are losing a pick...but they still have the Niners 1st rounder so it doesn't really matter. But this just makes you wonder how often they cheated..and in which games. They will still make the playoffs..and espn will bleed this story until it bleeds some more during superbowl week when the Pats make it.
I'm wondering which pick they lose and how they decide it.

Also, just to clarify one last time, they only broke a rule once, before this season it was legal to tape whatever you wanted and ESPN had someone saying the Broncos were known to do it...

All this means is the Pats will do like other teams and rely on lip readers and people with binoculars focused on the coaches... well, most teams except the Colts because they're girl scouts!



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Yea Joey Porter made some negative comments, watching on espn, among others.
yeah, but to be fair these are the same Steelers who claim they were better then the Patriots every time they lost to them, Hines Ward is convinced the Pats somehow stole the offensive signals even though thouse are radio'd in, and things like Troy Browns Punt Return which I don't see how they could have "made" that happen. Heck, Bettis book he barely talks about the Pats games and when he was asked about it "well, I wanted to talk about things that were important to me, and that AFC championship game wasn't that important because even though we lost I know we were a better team".
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Chad Johnson as a TD celebration would prolly risk a fine to grab a camera after a score and act like hes filming the other teams def coord and secondarys coach lol.
they play the Patriots, if he does that I'll mail him a check twords the fine.
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ok, I don't want to beat this thing as much as ESPN will, so unless someone asks a direct question or gets something 100% wrong such as "how many other times did they cheat" I'm going to let this die after this post on it.

ESPN and everyone else will beat this all day sunday and after the result of the game which already had enough bad blood (LT keeps running his mouth but never looks at his teammates, the Ellis Hobbs celebration was a response to how the Charges acted when they won in Foxboro, LT's teammate on HGH) and ESPN will beat this till the next Jets game near the end of the season.

Anyway, Belichecks move of the Camera after being told (well, every team was told) not to use the Cameras, but he also had a fair agurment which is the last line of the rule said "for use during the game" and Belicheck point was they used this post games for archives, not in game use.

That all being said, he was found to broken the rule and now he pays the fine, same with Harrison or any other player on any other team.

Can't wait for Sunday, I actually feel better about the game now then I did before this...
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Remember when Joe Horn pulled the cell phone from the goalpost? Terrible game as I remember it.
HELL YEAH!!

That was his 4th td of that game..
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Don't know the possibility of this but do you think the NFLPA could get involved on the basis that the first round pick the Pats are being docked could cost a potential NFL player first round money?
Would every team after the Pats moving up a pick be feasible? So when the Falcons draft #1, they also draft #32, whoever gets pick #2 gets pick 1 in round 2 etc?
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Old 09-14-2007, 01:35 PM   #707
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Old 09-14-2007, 01:42 PM   #708
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Would every team after the Pats moving up a pick be feasible? So when the Falcons draft #1, they also draft #32, whoever gets pick #2 gets pick 1 in round 2 etc?
Thats the only solution I can see.
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Thats the only solution I can see.
I dunno, I don't see the NFLPA picking a fight over this one...

on the otherhand, the difference the (say Falcons) pay for a Round 1 #32 vs. a Round 2 #1 is a lot last I checked....

I think the NFLPA keeps quiet, especially with all the HGH stuff coming out.
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I think the Rams have a shot to win SammyG. I look for SJ to get out of his week 1 slump, plus the 49ers were very fortunate to pull out the W against the Cards Mon Night.
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In a recent story in USA Today Sports Weekly, it was disclosed that Incognito has 23 television screens installed inside his 2006 BMW 750, including one in his gas cap door
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