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Old 10-08-2019, 10:31 PM   #121
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:50 PM   #122
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I liked it. Mostly was really enjoyable but some parts felt corny 2 me, like when he was talking on the talk show and was all "I'm a mentally ill loner,,," and when all the clown mask guys were cheering and stuff around him at the end

Joaquin Phoenix is amazing and it is really fun to watch him in anything. Love him
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:13 AM   #123
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:14 AM   #124
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I liked it. Mostly was really enjoyable but some parts felt corny 2 me, like when he was talking on the talk show and was all "I'm a mentally ill loner,,," and when all the clown mask guys were cheering and stuff around him at the end

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I thought the end where the rioters all surround him and cheer for him was an amazing shot. Especially when he embraces them.
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:18 AM   #125
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How much of the movie was an original story and how much is "from the comic books"?

Like does he go on the talk show and stuff in the comic books?
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Old 10-09-2019, 02:02 AM   #126
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There are references yes. His revelation about where he really comes from is a nod in that the Joker has always been an enigma. The failed comedian bit is straight outta The Killing Joke. And in The Dark Knight Returns, he does go on a tv show posing as a reformed version of himself before, if I recall correctly, gassing the audience.

But like the Nolan films, the movie is its own thing. Takes some nods to the source material but an original take on it.
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Old 10-09-2019, 02:08 AM   #127
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What about thinking Thomas Wayne was his dad? Is that "canon"

And also Thomas Wayne's death... don't remember if he was just killed by random "hooligans" or if Joker's "henchmen" had anything to do with it in other versions
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Old 10-09-2019, 02:15 AM   #128
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The Waynes are killed for different reasons in each film series. Thomas wasn't hinted at being Joker's dad in any storyline that I know of.

God, Thomas Wayne was suchan asshole in this movie. There's literally one likeable character, and it's a pre teen boy who gets to watch his parents die. Again.
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Old 10-09-2019, 03:08 PM   #129
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I liked it. Mostly was really enjoyable but some parts felt corny 2 me, like when he was talking on the talk show and was all "I'm a mentally ill loner,,," and when all the clown mask guys were cheering and stuff around him at the end
nvm just realized the end with the clown mask guys was another hallucination...

Movie was really cool upon reflecting on it today! Feel like watching it again
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Old 10-09-2019, 08:09 PM   #130
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Old 10-09-2019, 09:02 PM   #131
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nvm just realized the end with the clown mask guys was another hallucination...

Movie was really cool upon reflecting on it today! Feel like watching it again
I don't think that ending was a hallucination at all.
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Old 10-09-2019, 09:37 PM   #132
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Hmmm I guess it is ambiguous

I'm basing that on him being in the insane asylum in the next scene... if he was really freed by the clowns somehow, how'd he end up there? I guess he got arrested later? Why cut to that scene immediately?

But I guess if I think that, that also calls a bunch of other stuff into question, like if he actually appeared on the talk show, etc.

Maybe that stuff happened, but it was being told from his "warped perspective," making him come off as a "hero"

Just feel like the "cheering disciples" thing at the end didn't feel consistent with the "realistic" feeling of the rest of the movie, but did feel similar to the other scenes that were in his head, where he's cool and confident and people love him
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Saw it today..... yeah. @ the ending.... me and my friend had a discussion on whether it was hallucination or not..... I can't really say either way.... mad ambiguous.....
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