09-19-2022, 07:37 AM | #1 |
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Standing and waiting to be chopped
Why in the fuck is this a thing? Worst of all, why is Brian Danielson of all people the worst offender? Fuck--I remember everyone raving about his match with Suzuki, but it was 10 minutes of them staring at each other and laying in cooperative chops. I had to turn the damned thing off.
Maybe every once in a while it'd make sense to wait to be chopped like a game of chicken. But every match? Honestly, what the hell? What bothers me most is that it's a matter of treating it like a contested back and forth instead of standing and waiting. For instance, Sheamus vs Gunther did it right in their match. Is there any way to stop this bullshit? Or is this wrestling now? Team Toxic 4 lyfe |
09-19-2022, 08:01 AM | #2 |
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AEW just had another match like this recently. Eddie Kingston and someone. It was kinda "hey we're gonna chop the fuck out of each other" but also it looked *too* forced.
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09-19-2022, 08:01 AM | #3 |
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lol it made me think of Ken Shamrock standing there and saying "slap me" while the camera was right on his face
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09-19-2022, 08:01 AM | #4 |
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Wrestling's not real. Even Bret Shart will tell you.
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09-19-2022, 08:08 AM | #5 |
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09-19-2022, 08:48 AM | #6 |
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From a storyline perspective, I don't think it's too unrealistic for two guys fighting to get into a pissing contest about who could cave the other into oblivion with their chops first. It's a machismo thing.
The crowd seems to always get into it, it's a reliably easy way to engage the crowd. But when I see it happening multiple times on the same shows it shows there's zero communication between any of the talent or agents. Spots like that really shouldn't be done more than once per night. |
09-19-2022, 08:50 AM | #7 |
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Time to start the competitive slapping division.
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09-19-2022, 09:01 AM | #8 | |
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Also, fans love chanting What, so I don’t always base my judgement of what’s good on their approval, especially given AEW’s niche base. |
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09-19-2022, 09:10 AM | #9 |
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Does machismo still come in a can?
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09-19-2022, 09:11 AM | #10 |
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09-19-2022, 09:11 AM | #11 |
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What was annoying? Wrestling's not real, or Bret Shart?
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09-19-2022, 09:26 AM | #12 |
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*Lock Jaw enters the thread and stands waiting*
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09-19-2022, 09:27 AM | #13 |
It's a blood match!
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So much of what pro wrestling does these days is incredibly terrible and stupid.
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09-19-2022, 09:33 AM | #14 |
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09-19-2022, 09:40 AM | #15 |
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09-19-2022, 09:55 AM | #16 |
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And you are just as capable as still holding the same convos. Stop being a crybitch.
I just chopped Lock Jaw, now get outta the men's way while we flex our dicks. |
09-19-2022, 09:59 AM | #17 |
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*Chops drave*
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09-19-2022, 10:13 AM | #18 |
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Very fair, but I also think from a performer's standpoint, they want to do what is going to appease the audience they have.
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09-19-2022, 10:17 AM | #19 |
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09-19-2022, 11:09 AM | #20 |
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Thank you! Danielson is one of my all-time favorites and I’ve enjoyed Suzuki in the past, but Danielson/Suzuki was woefully bad. I also had to turn it off. It just plays like bad comedy. There was a spot where they were trading blows and Danielson was like “hit me bro” and Suzuki did and he went down like a sack of potatoes.
I don’t think it comes off as “tough” as they think it does. Looks kind of desperate and misanthropic. The goal is to win, and I think a real bad-ass would be more weary of what a lucky blow can do to you, so wouldn’t be courting that fate. It’s definitely what wrestling is now. |
09-19-2022, 11:36 AM | #21 | |
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I love you but saying the stand and chop dance isn't unrealistic is pretty comical bro. |
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09-19-2022, 11:38 AM | #22 |
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Well, other than those stupid Russian things where they hold on to an arm wrestling table and slap each other silly. But thats not really a fight.
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09-19-2022, 11:46 AM | #23 |
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Imagining Vito getting in a fight in a high school and hitting the bully with knife edge chops and then puffing his chest up and standing there waiting for the guy to chop him back.
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09-19-2022, 11:48 AM | #24 |
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My friends and I used to do that shit. We weren't fighting, though. Just virgins.
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09-19-2022, 11:51 AM | #25 |
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Dale and a bunch of guys enter the B hall restroom. The other students are soon mystified by the cacophony of WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOs coming from inside.
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09-19-2022, 12:02 PM | #26 | |
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“Why are these two guys standing and letting each other chop them? This is fake and stupid.” “They’re both on cocaine, meth, heroine, weed, Jack Daniels, Adderall, ecstasy, OxyContin, bath salts, Tide pods and Mountain Dew.” “Oh. This is now real and awesome.” |
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09-19-2022, 12:04 PM | #27 |
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09-19-2022, 12:18 PM | #28 |
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What about Wheels and Garcia slapping each other on the sides of their necks? That one is my favorite! Good thing they have done it everytime they fight.
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09-19-2022, 12:19 PM | #29 |
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This is the chopped thread, not the neck slap thread. Make a thread for that one please. We need more threads.
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09-19-2022, 12:26 PM | #30 | |
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Of course if the end goal is just "win the fucking match" it makes no sense, but that's 90% of wrestling at this point. |
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09-19-2022, 12:27 PM | #31 | |
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Fucker jumped through the window to escape. That coward. |
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09-19-2022, 12:32 PM | #33 |
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I'm so happy I didn't watch that match. I bet the fans were chanting "FIGHT FOREVER" during that particular game of patty-cake.
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09-19-2022, 12:35 PM | #34 |
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Agreed @ Dale Newstead
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09-19-2022, 04:34 PM | #35 | |
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That the crowd is getting up for it is exactly why you shouldn’t play for the audience in the room. More so than ever they’re a faulty gauge as to what actually has appeal. |
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09-19-2022, 04:35 PM | #36 |
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09-19-2022, 04:40 PM | #37 |
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That referee being there makes it even funnier. If Audrey Edwards was there, can you imagine her reacting to every slap? Too much.
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09-19-2022, 04:48 PM | #38 |
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09-19-2022, 05:43 PM | #39 |
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The question is was it earned. We've seen this in profights so its not like its something that doesnt occur in combat sports. The audience needs to believe its a pissing contest between two guys who are getting extra heated and buy into it. If the do its all good. If its a random spot you do every night on free tv its shit.
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09-19-2022, 06:22 PM | #40 | |
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