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Old 10-18-2018, 07:58 PM   #45801
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1 year, Vince.

You got 1 year to make Smackdown a better show than Raw.
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Old 10-18-2018, 08:06 PM   #45802
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It already is.
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Old 10-18-2018, 08:54 PM   #45803
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Seems FOX is not a fan of Vince's style of comedy for wrestling and want Smackdown to be a lot more sports/wrestling focused when they get the show late next year.

Makes sense since FOX will have to rely a lot more now than before on their sports fans to get the numbers needed to improve in cable rankings. Especially during football season and sports playoffs.
guess r truth is going back to raw. make it all wrestling no talking and no pancakes.
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Old 10-18-2018, 08:59 PM   #45804
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It already is.
Seriously. Being a 2 hour show helps a lot. Feels like a tighter, more effectively produced program.
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Old 10-18-2018, 09:00 PM   #45805
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Sounds like Fox wants NXT. Smackdown has the talent to be more sport oriented though.
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Old 10-18-2018, 09:46 PM   #45806
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Looks like writing a book about their lives is about to bite Ric and Charlotte Flair back really badly. Well mostly just Charlotte based on documents from their defamation lawsuit by Charlotte's ex-husband.

Supposedly there is police reports and video evidence of Charlotte saying racist stuff against black people.

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Old 10-18-2018, 11:54 PM   #45807
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Old 10-18-2018, 11:54 PM   #45808
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Daniel Vidot has been on WWE's radar for quite a while.

I don't know why FOX would buy a Vince McMahon product if they did not want a Vince McMahon product.
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Old 10-18-2018, 11:57 PM   #45809
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Ugh! There was so much potential in Bayley to become the female version of what John Cena represented.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:05 AM   #45810
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It's a complicated issue. Yeah, there was more potential there than they got out of her on the main roster, but she is neither the ring worker or promo that Cena is.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:14 AM   #45811
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It's a complicated issue. Yeah, there was more potential there than they got out of her on the main roster, but she is neither the ring worker or promo that Cena is.
Cena wasn't a ring general during his initial reigns as WWE Champion. He was thrusted into the main event picture and he learned to thrive. While Bayley cannot be directly compared to him, she has a ton of potential. She had some of the best (WWE) matches of 2015 (along with Banks).
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Old 10-19-2018, 01:43 AM   #45812
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She did, but they were produced so heavily and had the safety net of being a pet project. They could have done a similar thing on the main roster, but to some extent, you have to put the blame at the foot of the talent too. She didn't really get herself into position to get the same courtesies Cena did.
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Old 10-19-2018, 02:18 AM   #45813
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She did, but they were produced so heavily and had the safety net of being a pet project. They could have done a similar thing on the main roster, but to some extent, you have to put the blame at the foot of the talent too. She didn't really get herself into position to get the same courtesies Cena did.
That's not a convincing argument, Noid. Even if her matches were "heavily produced", it requires a certain amount of talent to pull them off. The focus has always been on either Charlotte, Alexa Bliss, or (now) Ronda Rousey. You can't put the blame on her and defend lazy storytelling. I am sure you've been following her program with Sasha Banks which never got a payoff.
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Old 10-19-2018, 11:33 AM   #45814
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Cena wasn't a ring general during his initial reigns as WWE Champion. He was thrusted into the main event picture and he learned to thrive. While Bayley cannot be directly compared to him, she has a ton of potential. She had some of the best (WWE) matches of 2015 (along with Banks).
Cena’s early work is underrated. I also don’t think he was thrust into the main event picture per se. I remember thinking quite a while before he even won his first US Title that he was the next megastar of the company. They actually took their time building him up by today’s standards. He was hot when he won the US title, it took him a year from there to win the secondary show’s world title and then another year before he “officially” cemented himself by beating Triple H at WrestleMania.
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Old 10-19-2018, 11:35 AM   #45815
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Bailey definitely should have been handled better on the main roster but her mic skills also would have held her back from “female Cena” level.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:39 PM   #45816
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Cena had a relatively slow burn. He main evented a Smackdown pov against Brock after mania, had a run against Taker, turned face prior to survivor series, etc etc. They spent over 2 years building him into winning his first top title against JBL.
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Old 10-19-2018, 01:57 PM   #45817
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Old 10-19-2018, 02:09 PM   #45818
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Old 10-19-2018, 08:48 PM   #45819
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There is a rumor making the rounds that Chris Jericho and Jim Ross are working on launching a new promotion, backed financially by Shad Khan, the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Young Bucks and Cody Rhodes are currently rumored to have agreed to be part of the company, and they are negotiating with AXS TV for a television deal.

Kenny Omega's status is apparently still up in the air, but I would imagine that if Cody and the Bucks are signing, the rest of their friend group will probably follow suit as they’ve pledged to stay together.

I’ll believe it when I see it, but Khan has billions and if he’s serious, this could be interesting.
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Old 10-19-2018, 09:26 PM   #45820
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"Sobriety Shaming"

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Old 10-19-2018, 09:34 PM   #45821
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That's just a stupid tweet. All three have talked about it and Hardy even had a WWE special this year that was heavily about it.
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Old 10-19-2018, 09:51 PM   #45822
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"Sobriety Shaming"

That's a new one.
This is stupid. Bennett is fairly indistinguishable from most of the roster, so I can't say who he is without his wife being there, but kudos on him for cleaning up and staying clean. He has a kid to look after, and I wouldn't want him to not be there for his kid growing up.
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There is a rumor making the rounds that Chris Jericho and Jim Ross are working on launching a new promotion, backed financially by Shad Khan, the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Young Bucks and Cody Rhodes are currently rumored to have agreed to be part of the company, and they are negotiating with AXS TV for a television deal.

Kenny Omega's status is apparently still up in the air, but I would imagine that if Cody and the Bucks are signing, the rest of their friend group will probably follow suit as they’ve pledged to stay together.

I’ll believe it when I see it, but Khan has billions and if he’s serious, this could be interesting.
Khan has just pulled out of buying Wembley Stadium so is obviously itching to spend some money.
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WWE has not said Saudi Arabia when discussing Crown Jewel in weeks. hmm
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Old 10-20-2018, 05:51 AM   #45828
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Bailey definitely should have been handled better on the main roster but her mic skills also would have held her back from “female Cena” level.
If we're being 💯 honest, it is partially the fault of the writers, though.
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There is a rumor making the rounds that Chris Jericho and Jim Ross are working on launching a new promotion, backed financially by Shad Khan, the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Young Bucks and Cody Rhodes are currently rumored to have agreed to be part of the company, and they are negotiating with AXS TV for a television deal.

Kenny Omega's status is apparently still up in the air, but I would imagine that if Cody and the Bucks are signing, the rest of their friend group will probably follow suit as they’ve pledged to stay together.

I’ll believe it when I see it, but Khan has billions and if he’s serious, this could be interesting.
So basically All In Wrestling
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Old 10-20-2018, 09:38 AM   #45830
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If I win the $1.6 billion mega millions on Tuesday I'll be a financial backer for it though. Couldn't go asbad as the last guy who won the lottery big and started a wrestling company (Wrestleliscious)
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WWE has not said Saudi Arabia when discussing Crown Jewel in weeks. hmm
"Welcome to WWE Crown Jewel and we are live from the largest country in The Middle East!"
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WWE is on a roll with the amount of bad PR decisions they have made this year so far. Newest blunder is using the Warrior brand to support GLAAD while completely forgetting how much of a homophobe Warrior was in real life.





WWE has pretty much become the equivalent of Sideshow Bob this year with the amount of PR goofs made.
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Man, I can imagine Warrior must be spinning in his grave at that.
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That's not a convincing argument, Noid. Even if her matches were "heavily produced", it requires a certain amount of talent to pull them off. The focus has always been on either Charlotte, Alexa Bliss, or (now) Ronda Rousey. You can't put the blame on her and defend lazy storytelling. I am sure you've been following her program with Sasha Banks which never got a payoff.
Fuck you're a condescending piece of shit. You start with a false assumption in that she could have been as good or effective in her role as John Cena, which is ludicrous, so of course you're not going to be convinced by reason.

It takes a certain amount of talent to pull it off. But that's not the same amount of talent as it takes to be the tippy-top worker that appeals to people at such a visceral level. Bayley got over in NXT in front of a certain type of fan because he was produced a certain way and got a great story laid out for her.

They absolutely could have and should have done a better job with Bayley. But that's not synonymous with saying that she had the skills as a worker, in and out of the ring, to cultivate the general WWE audience the same way she did in NXT. You absolutely can put part of the "blame" on her, and criticize lazy storytelling.

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If we're being 💯 honest, it is partially the fault of the writers, though.
Which is pretty much what #1-wwf-fan said...

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There is a rumor making the rounds that Chris Jericho and Jim Ross are working on launching a new promotion, backed financially by Shad Khan, the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Young Bucks and Cody Rhodes are currently rumored to have agreed to be part of the company, and they are negotiating with AXS TV for a television deal.

Kenny Omega's status is apparently still up in the air, but I would imagine that if Cody and the Bucks are signing, the rest of their friend group will probably follow suit as they’ve pledged to stay together.

I’ll believe it when I see it, but Khan has billions and if he’s serious, this could be interesting.
I hope this is true. If there were ever a chance for someone to start a new wrestling promotion, it is now. If it does air on AXS and it gets some attention, this could also be good for New Japan, who I hope work with them.
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It would have been nice if there were serious money offers being made to a guys like Bryan Danielson and Nick Nemeth before they re-signed with WWE though. Ultimately, I don't believe it -- especially since AXS is denying it. It's such an odd rumor to just...create though. I hope there is smoke to the fire, or at the very least it gives them the idea now.
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Just looking at the New Japan freelancers. If they made serious money offers to them, you'd have a core roster of:

* Beretta
* Chase Owens
* Chris Jericho
* Chuck Taylor
* Cody Rhodes
* Haku
* Hangman Page
* Kenny Omega
* Kota Ibushi
* Matt Jackson
* Minoru Suzuki
* Nick Jackson
* Sanada
* Shingo Takagi
* Tomoaki Honma
* Yoshinobu Kanemaru
* Zack Sabre, Jr.

Not bad for a starting point. Of course Brandi would go, and I'm sure Jericho would give agent spots to his friends in the business, like Don Callis and Lance Storm. I could see DDP being involved. He's probably got a lot of money he could potentially invest too. Jericho and Cornette get along, but I don't see them trying to get him to adapt to people's flavors.

The door would probably be open to guys leaving ROH and New Japan too. I can see Bully Ray and Shane Helms being given player/coach roles. You've instantly got a nice little roster going. I could see them working out something to do with Dragon Gate, bringing in PAC and emphasizing that style as its own division. If plans were in motion by January, then you could probably woo over Gallows & Anderson from WWE, for whatever that's worth.
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They could probably poach from All Japan too. The current Triple Crown Champion is this dude named Zeus. He looks like a fucking beast.
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