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Old 08-18-2022, 12:32 PM   #41
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I tried to watch Dr Strange 2 twice and both times turned it off because a girl child annoyed me very early on. Is this of whom you speak?
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Old 08-18-2022, 12:33 PM   #42
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I have the same story about the second last Jurassic Park film.
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Old 08-18-2022, 12:33 PM   #43
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I tried to watch Dr Strange 2 twice and both times turned it off because a girl child annoyed me very early on. Is this of whom you speak?
Yes. You can argue she was flat, fair enough, but it remains an example of using established characters to drip feed new characters in.
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Old 08-19-2022, 12:02 AM   #44
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Just watched the first episode. Was ok.

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Old 08-19-2022, 09:19 PM   #45
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Is it worth watching?
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Old 08-19-2022, 10:55 PM   #46
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Is it worth watching?
I mean, it's only the first episode. It's kind of hard to judge. I'd say if you were put off by the trailers I don't think it'll sway you.
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Old 08-25-2022, 03:44 AM   #47
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OK, the second episode is better as they get around to actual issues and dilemmas for Jennifer to talk about instead of just making dumb jokes with Bruce. Character first, THEN you can toss around all the wacky shit because we'll actually give a damn when shit goes down. There's one really good joke/wink towards the casting issues surrounding Bruce that's fucking gold. It feels like things are more focused. I'll tolerate those end credit bits if they can stay the course.
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Old 08-25-2022, 06:34 AM   #48
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I think my only issue so far is that the episodes seem so short. It almost feels like they filmed it as a movie and chopped it into little bits that were just a little bit off on the pacing
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Old 08-25-2022, 07:12 AM   #49
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I think my only issue so far is that the episodes seem so short. It almost feels like they filmed it as a movie and chopped it into little bits that were just a little bit off on the pacing
The funny thing is it's their studio and their streaming service. Why not just go all out and make it a movie for the platform?
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Old 08-25-2022, 07:17 AM   #50
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The point is so moot im stunned by it. The show exists not for art. The shows only reason for production is theyve made a streaming a service with a monthly subscription model. The entire purpose of the enterprise is to create veiwer retention month over month. This isnt art. Marvel and Disney dont make art.
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Saw a reddit post the other day that had a picture of SpyKids and said "this is how I see all Marvel movies now"


And its kinda true.
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The point is so moot im stunned by it. The show exists not for art. The shows only reason for production is theyve made a streaming a service with a monthly subscription model. The entire purpose of the enterprise is to create veiwer retention month over month. This isnt art. Marvel and Disney dont make art.
My Frozen/Encanto crossover fan-fiction says otherwise!
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Saw a reddit post the other day that had a picture of SpyKids and said "this is how I see all Marvel movies now"


And its kinda true.
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Old 08-26-2022, 12:38 PM   #56
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The point is so moot im stunned by it. The show exists not for art. The shows only reason for production is theyve made a streaming a service with a monthly subscription model. The entire purpose of the enterprise is to create veiwer retention month over month. This isnt art. Marvel and Disney dont make art.
And dammit, they have succeeded and have me eating it up...... I have Netflix and Amazon Prime but would honestly cancel them if I wasn't sharing it with my parents.

Disney+ though.... they have it all wrapped up, doling out a new Marvel or Star Wars TV-Show almost every week throughout the year... they make it so that you don't want to cancel and they do it extremely well....

The weekly release model has really blown the old "release the whole season at once and binge" model of Netflix out of the water and is part of why they are struggling now...
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Old 08-26-2022, 10:42 PM   #58
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The weekly release model is just a smart move. Its not how i view content, i wait until theyre all out save the finale, watch one ep a day, and start the show so i watch the finale on its air date. I wont start Shehulk until oct 5th for example.

That said the weekly ep is THE correct method. Mid season breaks may be another monetization method we see further down the line but if the platform can have 1 show running at all times you *may* not need that.. but since not every show will be seen by everyone its still probably the best method for maximun retention and youd have an added bonus to snag some bingers twice.

Not to be elitist, binge if you want it doesnt impact me, but i do think binging is a terrible way to consume long form narrative. A good story need time to breathe. Like reading a great book. Take a day off after a big plot point and chew on it a bit. Take some time to consider the broader implications of the themes etc.

Weekly is a bit much for me but all the same i think it treats the content much better than hammering out 13 hours of tv in a day. And you also lose the water cooler interactions that word of mouth provides to potential new viewers.when everyone is on random eps they cant really talk about the show with one another.

The netflix model is fine but it wont win out and thats probably for the better.
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Watched first episode of this. Not amazing, but I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. CG looks a little better but still not great.

Saw the scene where she's harping about women's struggles and I don't get all the rage over it. I mean I do get it. We've had woke pandering shoved down our throats that the mere mention of pro-anything is enough to trigger a gag reflex, but I don't think they're guilty of that here. Women do actually experience those things in male dominated fields and spending her whole career dealing with it is a legitimate reason for why she has so much more control out of the gate than Bruce.

Didn't really have a problem with her one upping Bruce either because I think her ability combined with her cocky attitude are setting her up for a fall at some point due to her arrogance. It serves a purpose and isn't just there for the sake of "WOMEN ARE BETTER". If I'm wrong and they don't do that, I'll retroactively give this episode a 2, but as it stands I'm looking forward to where it goes.

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Actually I will say they pushed her arrogance a little too hard. You can have a flawed character, but you have to give something for the audience to latch onto so that they want to root for the character in overcoming said flaws. There was very little of that here if any. She came off as almost unlikable in this episode.
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Did anyone catch the casual "Man fights with metal claws in bar brawl" reference in the second episode? Because I didn't the first time around.
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'The Rant' is a terrible disservice to Jen, Bruce, Hulk's character arc, and the very notion of the hero archetype. It's also exhibit A on why social political matters simply don't fit in the context of these universes. But most importantly, it makes yet another female lead unlikable.

The Hulk? Hunted for being a monster who's only a monster because he's hunted. Banner's monologue in Avengers. Choosing to just leave the planet in AoU. Gets his ass kicked by a purple guy, merges with the wimp inside him and appears to still live in exile. So Jen giving a twitter rant of first world problems to the guy who was hunted for years before Natasha found him is equivalency only in the mind of the writer. Came off really bad. Not to mention taking Ang Lee's Hulk as canon (which it actually kinda is), we see the origin of the Other Guy to begin with and it blows whatever annoyances Jen lived with out the water.

"I could literally be murdered" yeah well he got ass kicked by a cosmic warlord and hunted by his ex's dad for existing. This was a bad argument and bad look for Jen. Now I'm sympathetic to the fact that they needed to explain the fact that she never had some rage monster issues and I guess that rant was the best way they could conjur. But I would have thought of a bunch of things that didn't involve burying Banner and making light of his whole character arc just because yet another writer doesn't know how to sell a female character without burying her male counterpart.

Maybe the Ms Marvel writers could teach them a thing or two.
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I referenced the Mary Sue-ing of She Hulk to my wife and how the fact that she so very easily gets to grips with something that took Bruce 15 years to iron out was causing “outrage”. She replied telling me as a women she’s been “battling with Mother Nature since she was 12”. Fair point.
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'The Rant' is a terrible disservice to Jen, Bruce, Hulk's character arc, and the very notion of the hero archetype. It's also exhibit A on why social political matters simply don't fit in the context of these universes. But most importantly, it makes yet another female lead unlikable.

The Hulk? Hunted for being a monster who's only a monster because he's hunted. Banner's monologue in Avengers. Choosing to just leave the planet in AoU. Gets his ass kicked by a purple guy, merges with the wimp inside him and appears to still live in exile. So Jen giving a twitter rant of first world problems to the guy who was hunted for years before Natasha found him is equivalency only in the mind of the writer. Came off really bad. Not to mention taking Ang Lee's Hulk as canon (which it actually kinda is), we see the origin of the Other Guy to begin with and it blows whatever annoyances Jen lived with out the water.

"I could literally be murdered" yeah well he got ass kicked by a cosmic warlord and hunted by his ex's dad for existing. This was a bad argument and bad look for Jen. Now I'm sympathetic to the fact that they needed to explain the fact that she never had some rage monster issues and I guess that rant was the best way they could conjur. But I would have thought of a bunch of things that didn't involve burying Banner and making light of his whole character arc just because yet another writer doesn't know how to sell a female character without burying her male counterpart.

Maybe the Ms Marvel writers could teach them a thing or two.
I don't know why people are comparing the struggles she's talking about to bruce's life as the hulk, because her rant isnt about that. Again, she's very clearly stating how her experiences as a woman better emotionaly prepared her for BEING a hulk.
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As a business decision.

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I don't know why people are comparing the struggles she's talking about to bruce's life as the hulk, because her rant isnt about that. Again, she's very clearly stating how her experiences as a woman better emotionaly prepared her for BEING a hulk.
Yes I kno, I'm just saying that's absurd. There's way better ways to explain why she doesn't have a rage monster.

Hell - her successful life, healthy family relationship, and having a bff could be easily explained as why she doesn't have a rage monster. End of the day this particular gamma poisoning is based off the beta rays of the super soldier project. As explained by German Scientist Man, it ultimately makes you a super-you for better or worse. Shulkie being a gorgeous, confident amazon is Jen literally breaking out, as an inverse of Banner's inner rage breaking out. That's how I would have done it. And it wouldn't make some gender war strike at a founding Avenger. Nobody needed to be buried here.
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Btw, female fans found it god awful as well. This wasn't some win for women, it's very specifically feminist rhetoric. Not that Jen felt that way, but that it was used as ammo against her own cousin. Hence why I said the equivalence only makes sense to the writer - a feminist.
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I referenced the Mary Sue-ing of She Hulk to my wife and how the fact that she so very easily gets to grips with something that took Bruce 15 years to iron out was causing “outrage”. She replied telling me as a women she’s been “battling with Mother Nature since she was 12”. Fair point.
Seemed like a nonsequitor.
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I dunno. I just don't think its a big deal. They didnt want to spend too much time explaining it do they threw in a 10 second rant to explain it away.

Lazy maybe, but it doesn't affect my overall enjoyment of the show I guess.
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As an Ultimate Alliance fanboy, I've always been miffed they never added She-Hulk to the playable roster. Throw in War Machine, too. And before anyone wants to say that it'd be repetition of other characters let me just point out that the last game had three God damn Spider-people on the roster and two versions of Thanos.
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Seemed like a nonsequitor.
Not really.

From age 12 they’ve been working around incredible swings in hormones. I can see how that would prepare one for an inevitable monster created by gamma radiation. In a real world sense.
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