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Old 07-23-2022, 11:04 PM   #1
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Old 07-23-2022, 11:09 PM   #2
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Old 07-24-2022, 12:24 AM   #3
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Yeah.... Still really wish they recast T'Challa... I get "respect" and all, but there's also "legacy" and "impact" of the character....

I have to admit that was a hot trailer though... great editing....
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Old 07-24-2022, 03:33 AM   #4
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No matter what they did the Boseman thing was going to be hanging over it. Hopefully the film can let people grieve, cope, and move on.
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Old 07-24-2022, 08:26 AM   #5
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I think most peoole did that 2 years ago
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Old 07-25-2022, 05:07 PM   #6
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A friend had the idea that the new Panther should be Nakia and not Shuri. It'd be an interesting angle because in terms of the narrative from the last movie she was the one who pushed T'Challa to be more helpful towards the world. Obviously it's nowhere near established comic lore and I'm sure it'd anger some purists but it wouldn't be completely out of the blue.
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Old 07-25-2022, 05:09 PM   #7
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Nakia didn't even appear in Avengers, bro... so no one know who she even is
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Old 07-25-2022, 08:27 PM   #10
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Nakia didn't even appear in Avengers, bro... so no one know who she even is
What if, like, a whole bunch of Wakandans wear the Black Panther suit in the climax? You know, like the ending of íThree Amigos!?
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I think most peoole did that 2 years ago
Perhaps. But they were in an unenviable position. Not only did they already get a lot of shit years ago for Rhodey going from Terrance Howard to Don Cheadle, and this would do nothing but bring that back up... there is also the issue of Boseman being the initial and defining actor. It would be like WB pumping out "Superman V: Who Gives A Shit About Plot, It's For Kids!" right after Christopher Reeves got paralyzed and picking any rando to wear the tights. Then multiply that outrage exponentially.

There's too many moving parts, here. It was a potential shitstorm at the intersections of cultural touchstone, defining actor, respect for the dead, and any other controversy and/or non-troversey a recast would herald... justified or not. Why bother with it? "The only winning move is not to play."
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Old 07-26-2022, 12:33 AM   #15
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Strongly disagree. I think the cost to young black boys is beyond tragic. Losing a hero that could have defined a generation is the worst play that could have been played. The Halloween following BP1 its was THE costume.

Hopefully Anthony Mackie's Cap4 can fill that role but i have no faith in the actor (RIP Altered Carbon.) Shuriis popular amongst a sect of the audience so hopefully this all female avengers theyve winked at takes off and this can atleast work for young girls (cross ethnically) but the loss of T'Challa, who imo is the single best black hero with all his depth and complexity, its a huge negative culturally for a token tribute that wont be half as memorable as the impact the character could have had.

And frankly, psychologically speaking, recasting superman was right. It can fail but telling kids their heroes are dead is worse than a film failing.
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Also, was there an outrage at Rhodey being recast? I remember it just being like "ok, whatever"
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In defnese of tbat no one cares about war machine
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who tf is war machine? That sounds like a jobber character.
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War Machine is James Rhodes, Stark's friend who is played by Don Cheadle.
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Also, was there an outrage at Rhodey being recast? I remember it just being like "ok, whatever"
The issue was less about the character of War Machine, and far more about picking a completely different actor and keeping it moving like "any black dude will do; who's kinda hot right now that we can just plug in?".

Doing that with T'Challa would have led to a larger PR mess than letting Mr. Boseman be deified within the MCU meta like so much Stan Lee, and that's even giving them the benefit of the doubt that a recast would come with careful consideration and picking someone with the damn near impossible ability fit the role, act well, and walk the line of being similar enough without veering into "cheap Chadwick knockoff". That's a hard bullseye to hit, let alone come near, and even if they did, it would still, more likely than not, come off bad to fans. The shit flinging would drop from merely bad to downright disasterous if whoever the new T'Challa was sucked ass.

It wasn't worth the gamble.

On a personal note, I think it says a lot about the guy behind the role that even a heartless monolithic corporation considers him irreplaceable. He was the right person in the right place at the right time. Lightning in a bottle on a clear sunny day. And I say all that as a guy who never really got into Black Panther as a kid. He came off to me like a dick, and I wondered why one of the few black characters who was supposed to be a hero was such an asshole. Maybe I just caught the wrong appearances.
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I prefer the way they're doing it. It would have felt weird and off to me, no matter who they got to replace boseman. Plus, I like Shuri in the comics so I'm kind of hyped to see her in the role on screen.

It has to be good though. If they're going to do this, it can't be poor or even solid. They have to slam dunk it.
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I think most peoole did that 2 years ago
You say that but one of my friends legit started tearing up when she watched the teaser. Then again she cries for almost anything.
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