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Old 09-03-2022, 06:33 PM   #201
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Unless that guy can prove he’s NOT a murderer, I think the t-shirt might be overcompensating.
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Old 09-03-2022, 06:37 PM   #202
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The show I’m most curious about this weekend is NXT Worlds Collide. NXT under Triple H and Shawn Michaels is going to be…interesting.

I hope Ricochet wins the North American Title. Could be used to build to a Ladder Match between Ricochet and Hayes for down the line.
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Old 09-03-2022, 06:38 PM   #203
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Match rankings:

1) Sheamus/Gunther
2) Drew/Roman
3) Riddle/Rollins
4) Liv/Shayna
5) Trios match
N/A) Rey-ted R/Judgment Day

Pretty good show. Crowd was incredible. Dom heel turn was the only big shock
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Old 09-03-2022, 07:38 PM   #204
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It will be interesting to see where WWE goes next, because Drew vs Roman was booked as a match by Vince, and now H has free reign of the main-event scene minus a rumored WM match or 2 (see below)


SPOILER: show

Rock/Roman and Cena/Theory rumors
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Old 09-03-2022, 07:43 PM   #205
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That’s a good point. Vince set this up.

Let’s speculate what Vince would have done now.
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Old 09-03-2022, 07:44 PM   #206
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Old 09-03-2022, 07:48 PM   #207
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On paper, Gunther vs Sheamus didn't makes sense. Aren't both heels?

It was only after I saw Sheamus' chest that I remembered: Sheamus is ghost white pale and Gunther's Chops are like getting hit with a baseball bat.
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Old 09-03-2022, 07:52 PM   #208
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Yeah, as much as I fucking hate the current strategy of having “good matches” just to have them, Gunther vs Sheamus is a match that should easily make two brutes look like a badass so… Book it.
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Old 09-03-2022, 07:53 PM   #209
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That being said, Sheamus is gonna go down as an all-time wasted talent.
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Old 09-03-2022, 07:58 PM   #210
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Fun to think that the guy who beat John Cena clean for the world title, beat Bryan Danielson clean for the world title at Wrestlemania, and eliminated Chris Jericho to win the Royal Rumble is a wasted talent

But yeah kinda
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Old 09-03-2022, 08:17 PM   #211
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On paper, Gunther vs Sheamus didn't makes sense. Aren't both heels?

It was only after I saw Sheamus' chest that I remembered: Sheamus is ghost white pale and Gunther's Chops are like getting hit with a baseball bat.
I really wanted that match for Clash. It works in a “Battle of the Brutes” kind of way. You just want to see them destroy each other on their home continent as a promotional humble brag about the quality of talent you’ve got.

It’d be fine if they kept it going too. Imperium vs. Brawling Brutes works for SmackDown and maybe even through Extreme Rules. Sheamus has found something since the stuff with Drew. I just hate the way they were dressing, at least under Vince.

Put Sheamus in jeans and a shirt as street gear and you’ve got someone that’s a lot more “believable.” I know they got Drew out of the kilt and into more realistic stuff.

Gunther should always be in wrestling gear or a suit.
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Fun to think that the guy who beat John Cena clean for the world title, beat Bryan Danielson clean for the world title at Wrestlemania, and eliminated Chris Jericho to win the Royal Rumble is a wasted talent

But yeah kinda
The problem, see, is that careers are just too damn long these days. If a guy is around for like 20 years, who cares anymore
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Fun to think that the guy who beat John Cena clean for the world title, beat Bryan Danielson clean for the world title at Wrestlemania, and eliminated Chris Jericho to win the Royal Rumble is a wasted talent

But yeah kinda
Beat Cena on 2* different occasions for the World Title. Also beat Roman for a World Title as well.
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Old 09-03-2022, 09:26 PM   #214
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Went onto Peacock and watched Gunther/Sheamus. That slapped (literally). Good time with that.
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The only logical reason for Drew to not go over in this situation was if WWE officially have a commitment from a certain megastar who happens to be related to Reigns, and naturally they’d want his title run to continue until them.
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Also maybe cause they didn't want to do the biggest title switch in a long time on a show that a lot of their primary market wouldn't be watching live?
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On paper, Gunther vs Sheamus didn't makes sense. Aren't both heels?

It was only after I saw Sheamus' chest that I remembered: Sheamus is ghost white pale and Gunther's Chops are like getting hit with a baseball bat.
No, seriously. Sheamus looks like he's wearing an Affliction shirt.
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Went onto Peacock and watched Gunther/Sheamus. That slapped (literally). Good time with that.
Rollins/Riddle and Drew/Roman were also really good

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Seth Rollins is entering that AJ Styles 'nearly impossible to have a bad match with someone' phase of his career
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“Take Me Home Country Roads” would have been a good song to karaoke at the end, too.
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Great PPV

Liv Morgan vs Shayna was the biggest surprise. That was Liv's best match by country mile.

Domink was brilliant in that heel turn. Could see in his face how elation turned into disappointment as Edge and his father ignored him and his efforts after the win.
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I’m interested to see the Dominik turn. People act like he sucks, but every time I’ve seen him recently he’s been PrettyCool.
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I’m interested to see what other genres they delve into for show-ending karaoke.
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Cody returning, jobbing to Roman at Survivor Series and then singing “Janie’s Got a Gun” would be excellent.
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Old 09-04-2022, 08:21 AM   #227
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Having the third Uso debut to help Roman retain is probably the most uninspired ending the show could have.
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I love Roman’s work and all. It’s just…the faces are stupid if they don’t see this coming, you know? I get the impulse to keep the belts on Reigns, but eh. Sounds boring. I probably won’t check out the show.



This is my exact issue and what sparked my departure from "regular viewing".




They have done this type of "spot" with the title for the longest and it IS boring as fuck.
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Old 09-04-2022, 08:38 AM   #228
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The problem with having a long-reigning heel champ is you inevitably make the faces look like fucking morons or outright inferior. And nobody wants to root for losers. The only way out of that is one-hour broadways but today's fans aren't going to swallow that.
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Old 09-04-2022, 01:23 PM   #229
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I think one of the biggest misconceptions of the modern wrestling fan is that “the money is in the chase.” It’s not entirely wrong, per se — but there’s so much in a babyface run that is actually valuable, if the babyface is over.

The problem is the WWE had a pretty rough time booking babyfaces under Vince McMahon. The prerogative wasn’t on having an active protagonist, but rather trying to get sympathy on the hero. People want to live vicariously through them.
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Old 09-04-2022, 10:19 PM   #230
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The problem with having a long-reigning heel champ is you inevitably make the faces look like fucking morons or outright inferior. And nobody wants to root for losers. The only way out of that is one-hour broadways but today's fans aren't going to swallow that.
On the other hand it gets people like me to actually tune in to see "is this the night he loses?"

Less about actually rooting for the good guy, but more tuning in to see if the bad guy loses..... and then it is up to the good guy to get me into it during the match and make me believe that he could pull it off.
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Old 09-04-2022, 10:28 PM   #231
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Some people have to look inferior to build stars. As long as Reigns stays unstoppable, losing to him doesn’t necessarily make a face look like shit. It just makes them look below Reigns. Which is fine as long as Reigns is credible as fuck.

Blowing off the loss and singing karaoke immediately afterward on the other hand may make them look like a bit of a fucking moron…
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Feel like in normal circumstances the song and dance routine would have went down still....but would have been off camera fan service for after the show. The fact that it made it on the broadcast was pretty baffling. Serious wtf moment.
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Doesn’t Tyson Fury sing after his fights? He sung American Pie after beating Deontay Wilder. Seems like it was just a way to get his “celebrity” onto the show and try and paste Drew’s loss as a win.
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